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Superlative Breakdown: Running Back

  • http://247sports.com/Article/Gerry-Hamilton-breaks-down-the-running-backs-in-the-2013-class-111494

    Florida running back commit Kelvin Taylor tops the charts in two of our running back superlative categories for the 2013 class.

    National Director of Scouting & Recruiting Analyst @GerryHam247

    Gerry Hamilton ●

  • Arkansas needs a freak every year on offense. I think Tenpenny could be that guy if the Razorbacks can flip him.

    E-mail: jc@247Sports.com/Twitter: @jcshurburtt/Instagram jcshurburtt

    JC Shurburtt

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Arkansas needs a freak every year on offense. I think Tenpenny could be that guy if the Razorbacks can flip him.

    After reading Tenpenny's update after the Bama official, that doesn't look likely. Of course, nothing would be a surprise in recruiting in this day and age.

    bigwilly64 ●

  • This is a great feature...now we are getting into a break down of the athletes based on traits of the position. I know you guys are probably annoyed with me concerning Tyren Jones...LOL, but you really only "considered" Tyren to be elite in the category of vision? I mean with this write up you are now talking about traits that these RB's exhibit now and not so much as JC puts it, "where they project when time for the NFL draft". Can you honestly look at film on Tyren and having seen him play in person which I think you did at the Corky Kell and tell me that he does not fit your superlative list in ALL of these categories.

    Just struck me as curious that you only mentioned Tyren under vision, not elite in any category, and not also considered in any other category. "Feet in the hole"...I look at your characterization of this trait and you really think there is another back better than Tyren or that Jones is not to be also considered as elite. Power & Lean? Burst & Acceleration? Same thing.

    It would be a great feature if you guys did like one of the other services and did a scouting analysis on each of your top rated athletes. I would really love to see your break down on Tyren in these categories. Love what you guys do and thanks in advance for your response.

    Btw, Body Type: at his official visit this weekend Tyren's measurables were 5'9 1/2" 210+ lbs.

    EDIT: I stand corrected...I notice Jones listed under several categories ...although still think he is the elite one in several categories but that is barbershop argument argue

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by heatheatheat on 1/15/2013 at 3:02 PM

    heatheatheat ●

  • agree completely with heat, tyren jones seems to be way undervalued.

    rsfields31

  • No mention of Newby? Kind of surprises me as you have him graded so high.

    bobrosshairclub

  • Mizzell doesn't take hands or feet?? Pfffttt.....please!!! Should be both!!!

    HburgCavsFan

  • Hey guys do a Ctrl-F and type in "Jones" to see where Tyren is listed in other categories. Being that he'd been listed under Honorable Mention for "Vision" all subsequent listings are just "Jones".

    Tyren is listed as also considered under:
    -Vision
    -Feet in the hole
    -Balance
    -Burst and acceleration

    This post was edited by BamaBornDukie on 1/15/2013 at 3:30 PM

    Tell people what they want to hear, they will like you. Tell them the actual truth...they may not.

    BamaBornDukie ●

  • Also under "Feet in the Hole".....and I'm an old dude (38) but still do some footwork for conditioning such as ladder drills and jump roping. Even at my age people in the gym always come up and ask me if I am a boxer or how did I learn to jump rope like that. So I know a little about quick feet. Well.......Tyren Jones' footwork in the hole is like "WHOA" compared any RB in this class IMO.

    Check the runs at these links:

    Run#1 (This is REAL Nasty....Tap Dancing here)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MgzgoWQ5rA0#t=274s

    Run #1 from different angle
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=580s

    Run#2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=55s

    Run #3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=99s

    Run #4 (My brother saw this highlight and called and told me Tyren shook 2-3 dudes without really moving when he 1st caught the punt)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=263s

    Run#5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=364s

    Run#6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=396s

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by BamaBornDukie on 1/15/2013 at 3:49 PM

    Tell people what they want to hear, they will like you. Tell them the actual truth...they may not.

    BamaBornDukie ●

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    Also under "Feet in the Hole".....and I'm an old dude (38) but still do some footwork for conditioning such as ladder drills and jump roping. Even at my age people in the gym always come up and ask me if I am a boxer or how did I learn to jump rope like that. So I know a little about quick feet. Well.......Tyren Jones' footwork in the hole is like "WHOA" compared any RB in this class IMO.

    Check the runs at these links:

    Run#1 (This is REAL Nasty....Tap Dancing here)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MgzgoWQ5rA0#t=274s

    Run #1 from different angle
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=580s

    Run#2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=55s

    Run #3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=99s

    Run #4 (My brother saw this highlight and called and told me Tyren shook 2-3 dudes without really moving when he 1st caught the punt)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=263s

    Run#5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=364s

    Run#6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=41WmmofZ8iI#t=396s

    He's definitely a stud.

    CRgator1

  • Sorry, but as early as next season, you'll see that Thomas Tyner should have been given the nod for Burst and Acceleration. World class sprinters speed in a 6'1", 210 pound body. A freak of an athlete who will set an Oregon record for long runs from scrimmage before he's done in Eugene.

    check the video at :54 and 2:12 to get an idea. He's not even running full speed and looks like a man among boys
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrctK1900hA

    This post was edited by jeffc1 on 1/15/2013 at 5:49 PM

    jeffc1

  • Interesting Green is #1 APB on 247 and #2 by rivals....yet somehow he is just honorable mention here.

    WRobins

  • Hands and Route Running:
    Forgot this video was out there and here are Barton Simmons' comments from event

    "Tyren Jones, RB, Marietta (GA) Walton – Jones was one of the most productive players in the country as a junior running the football and he has a frame with some bulk to it. Those two factors together don’t typically equate to a natural receiver but Jones is absolutely that. He runs routes with comfort, attacks the ball in the air and catches with his hands. Jones proves in the 7on7 game that he can be as much of a big play threat as a receiver on the next level as he can as a rusher."

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by heatheatheat on 1/18/2013 at 5:45 PM

    'Bama Commit Tyren Jones goes for 180

    Alabama commitment Tyren Jones rushed for 180 yards in a tough loss to rival Lassiter on 10/5/12.

    www.bing.com

    FOX Sports Next - RB Tyren Jones

    Running back Tyren Jones is committed to the Alabama Crimson Tide. He took a trip to California with his 7v7 team. Here is a look at him in action.

    www.bing.com

    heatheatheat ●

  • heatheatheat said...

    This is a great feature...now we are getting into a break down of the athletes based on traits of the position. I know you guys are probably annoyed with me concerning Tyren Jones...LOL, but you really only "considered" Tyren to be elite in the category of vision? I mean with this write up you are now talking about traits that these RB's exhibit now and not so much as JC puts it, "where they project when time for the NFL draft". Can you honestly look at film on Tyren and having seen him play in person which I think you did at the Corky Kell and tell me that he does not fit your superlative list in ALL of these categories.

    Just struck me as curious that you only mentioned Tyren under vision, not elite in any category, and not also considered in any other category. "Feet in the hole"...I look at your characterization of this trait and you really think there is another back better than Tyren or that Jones is not to be also considered as elite. Power & Lean? Burst & Acceleration? Same thing.

    It would be a great feature if you guys did like one of the other services and did a scouting analysis on each of your top rated athletes. I would really love to see your break down on Tyren in these categories. Love what you guys do and thanks in advance for your response.

    Btw, Body Type: at his official visit this weekend Tyren's measurables were 5'9 1/2" 210+ lbs.

    EDIT: I stand corrected...I notice Jones listed under several categories ...although still think he is the elite one in several categories but that is barbershop argument argue

    Jones was included in the first three, and we do think he's one of the elite RB's in the class.

    National Director of Scouting & Recruiting Analyst @GerryHam247

    Gerry Hamilton ●

  • HburgCavsFan said...

    Mizzell doesn't take hands or feet?? Pfffttt.....please!!! Should be both!!!

    You could make an argument for listing all of the top few backs at nearly every category. They are all very talented in many ways and we have them ranked among the best for a reason.

    National Director of Scouting & Recruiting Analyst @GerryHam247

    Gerry Hamilton ●

  • Gerry Hamilton said...

    Jones was included in the first three, and we do think he's one of the elite RB's in the class.

    Yes...thanks Gerry...that is why I came back and made the edit note but wanted to stay genuine to my original post (see I got a DV from someone). Again, I appreciate what you guys do...always being transparent, offering up your assessments and having the best board to discuss/debate

    This post was edited by heatheatheat on 1/15/2013 at 6:25 PM

    heatheatheat ●

  • bobrosshairclub said...

    No mention of Newby? Kind of surprises me as you have him graded so high.

    same here, Nebraska players never get much pub though. So i'm okay with it. We know what we have.

    klein12

  • I would think that Henry it's the definition of power and lean. He continually fell forward in under armor game.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • kelvin taylor. Is this the same kelvin taylor that derrick henry made look like a peewee football back when they played each other. Derrick Henry is better than all of these backs.

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    CrimsonTemplar

  • I'm fine with where Tyren is ranked, but I'd love to see a breakdown on what makes Alex Collins and Kelvin Taylor 5*/top 30 players and Tyren a 4* in the 60's.

    I used to believe it was size, but he weighed in at around 210 this weekend at 5'9+, arguably ideal for a RB, so.. what am I missing.

    TylerDD

  • klein12 said...

    same here, Nebraska players never get much pub though. So i'm okay with it. We know what we have.

    Agree. Still waiting on that mystery star that was added and then subtracted with no explanation on Taylor. I guarantee if L $ U honored their offer to him you would see him at 90+ on here. Oh well, nothing new that I haven't seen before. Thanks for your work guys, I really do appreciate all your work and I'm a firm believer that you have some of the best evaluations out there.

    bobrosshairclub

  • bobrosshairclub said...

    Agree. Still waiting on that mystery star that was added and then subtracted with no explanation on Taylor. I guarantee if L $ U honored their offer to him you would see him at 90+ on here. Oh well, nothing new that I haven't seen before. Thanks for your work guys, I really do appreciate all your work and I'm a firm believer that you have some of the best evaluations out there.

    was told by a 247 staffer that he's not going to get that 4th star anymore. A shame, but whatever. We know what we got.

    klein12

  • jeffc1 said...

    Sorry, but as early as next season, you'll see that Thomas Tyner should have been given the nod for Burst and Acceleration. World class sprinters speed in a 6'1", 210 pound body. A freak of an athlete who will set an Oregon record for long runs from scrimmage before he's done in Eugene.

    check the video at :54 and 2:12 to get an idea. He's not even running full speed and looks like a man among boys
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrctK1900hA

    I completely agree. I ran into this guys film just surfin around and was absolutely blown away. He will be the greatest RB in Yje schools history if I am right about this guys talent.

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    beardown2489 ●

  • bobrosshairclub said...

    Agree. Still waiting on that mystery star that was added and then subtracted with no explanation on Taylor. I guarantee if L $ U honored their offer to him you would see him at 90+ on here. Oh well, nothing new that I haven't seen before. Thanks for your work guys, I really do appreciate all your work and I'm a firm believer that you have some of the best evaluations out there.

    We readjusted the Texas state rankings. Some guys moved up, and some down. Nothing more than that. Happens throughout a cycle, and does every year.

    We like a couple of others guys better in that range.

    National Director of Scouting & Recruiting Analyst @GerryHam247

    Gerry Hamilton ●

  • Gerry Hamilton said...

    We readjusted the Texas state rankings. Some guys moved up, and some down. Nothing more than that. Happens throughout a cycle, and does every year.

    We like a couple of others guys better in that range.

    I understand that... it was just odd to see him move from 84 to 90 one day and then that same night back down to 89 shrug I'd never seen a fluctuation that quickly before. Found it odd.

    klein12

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