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  • On obama crap health care. Will we become a socialistic society? I sure as hell hope not.

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  • USMCAG said...

    On obama crap health care. Will we become a socialistic society? I sure as hell hope not.

    I'm anxious to hear the ruling as well

    Jeff4SC

  • Jeff4USC said...

    I'm anxious to hear the ruling as well

    Damn sure going to be interesting. Pelosi has already said that if the mandate is struck down, the bill cannot be funded. With no severability clause in the bill, striking down the mandate could kill the whole bill.

    VTSmitty

  • VTSmitty said...

    Damn sure going to be interesting. Pelosi has already said that if the mandate is struck down, the bill cannot be funded. With no severability clause in the bill, striking down the mandate could kill the whole bill.

    That would be the greatest thing that could happen. I definitely agree in a reform of health care, but not this route.

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  • USMCAG said...

    That would be the greatest thing that could happen. I definitely agree in a reform of health care, but not this route.

    Agree 100%. I guess that makes us racists who want poor people to die.

    VTSmitty

  • VTSmitty said...

    Agree 100%. I guess that makes us racists who want poor people to die.

    Yup, I'm sure we will get labeled that way.

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  • rms02d said...

    Yes, because health care reform would only help poor minorities.huh

    Paying an extra $500 a month in premiums isn't a big deal for white people making 50K a year.

    That's not what he was saying. Everyone knows that reform is needed, but handouts isn't the answer.

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  • rms02d said...

    Yes, because health care reform would only help poor minorities.huh

    Paying an extra $500 a month in premiums isn't a big deal for white people making 50K a year.

    It is for this cracker.

    VTSmitty

  • rms02d said...

    Lol.

    You do realize as ex-military that US taxpayers and China are subsidizing your healthcare. Granted you did more than some welfare queen to get it, but handouts are handouts my friend.

    There really aren't any "hand-outs" in the bill except adding a couple of million people to welfare. The Individual Mandate isn't a handout. It actually requires people to pay into the system before using it when they are older.

    I guess its not a "great bill" but we need to lower costs for those of us who actually pay monthly premiums like myself and others.

    Not everyone gets to have the government pay their healthcare Mr. USMCAGbashful

    I'm on my wife's health care jerk.

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  • rms02d said...

    Lol.

    You do realize as ex-military that US taxpayers and China are subsidizing your healthcare. Granted you did more than some welfare queen to get it, but handouts are handouts my friend.

    There really aren't any "hand-outs" in the bill except adding a couple of million people to welfare. The Individual Mandate isn't a handout. It actually requires people to pay into the system before using it when they are older.

    I guess its not a "great bill" but we need to lower costs for those of us who actually pay monthly premiums like myself and others.

    Not everyone gets to have the government pay their healthcare Mr. USMCAGbashful

    You honestly believe the bill will lower premiums?

    VTSmitty

  • rms02d said...

    Lol.

    You do realize as ex-military that US taxpayers and China are subsidizing your healthcare. Granted you did more than some welfare queen to get it, but handouts are handouts my friend.

    There really aren't any "hand-outs" in the bill except adding a couple of million people to welfare. The Individual Mandate isn't a handout. It actually requires people to pay into the system before using it when they are older.

    I guess its not a "great bill" but we need to lower costs for those of us who actually pay monthly premiums like myself and others.

    Not everyone gets to have the government pay their healthcare Mr. USMCAGbashful

    you serious?

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  • So you are saying welfare is not a hand-out? Do you like to work and pay for people who have kids to get more money from you?

    ferbama

  • ferbama said...

    So you are saying welfare is not a hand-out? Do you like to work and pay for people who have kids to get more money from you?

    Who are you talking to? No I don't want that.

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  • USMCAG said...

    On obama crap health care. Will we become a socialistic society? I sure as hell hope not.

    lol

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  • rms02d said...

    Yes, because health care reform would only help poor minorities.huh

    Paying an extra $500 a month in premiums isn't a big deal for white people making 50K a year.

    Paying an extra $500 per month while only making 50K is no big deal??? You serious Clark?? Wow.

    FishHead

  • FishHead said...

    Paying an extra $500 per month while only making 50K is no big deal??? You serious Clark?? Wow.

    I think he was being sarcastic.

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  • USMCAG said...

    I think he was being sarcastic.

    I think he was implying that would happen without Obamacare.

    VTSmitty

  • VTSmitty said...

    I think he was implying that would happen without Obamacare.

    Maybe he could explain what he meant?

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  • There needs to be some type of reform, but Obamacare sure isn't the answer. I wouldn't mind helping people who work and just can't afford it. I have no interest in helping anyone sitting on their fat ass watching me drive to and from work.

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    TheT12

  • TheT12 said...

    There needs to be some type of reform, but Obamacare sure isn't the answer. I wouldn't mind helping people who work and just can't afford it. I have no interest in helping anyone sitting on their fat ass watching me drive to and from work.

    Exactly.

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  • Let's just completely do away with welfare.

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    wps88

  • Let me save you all the suspense. The Supreme Court will strike the individual mandate, but not the entire bill and the Obama administration will attempt to keep the remainder of the bill going by creating some new source of funding, somehow.

    In short, Obamacare isn't going anywhere, but you won't be required to buy health insurance if you don't want it.

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    Let me save you all the suspense. The Supreme Court will strike the individual mandate, but not the entire bill and the Obama administration will attempt to keep the remainder of the bill going by creating some new source of funding, somehow.

    In short, Obamacare isn't going anywhere, but you won't be required to buy health insurance if you don't want it.

    They should just start over, it's crap.

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  • I'm not a proponent of hand outs. And while I think that welfare isn't a flawed idea because some people really do need help, I feel it's been abused to the point of needing massive reform and regulation. That said, I have a hard time treating the health and wellbeing of our citizens as some sort of profit-based idea. I just feel like people's lives deserve more respect than that.

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    sf2k4

  • sf2k4 said...

    I'm not a proponent of hand outs. And while I think that welfare isn't a flawed idea because some people really do need help, I feel it's been abused to the point of needing massive reform and regulation. That said, I have a hard time treating the health and wellbeing of our citizens as some sort of profit-based idea. I just feel like people's lives deserve more respect than that.

    Some sort of regulation I agree with. Forcing people to purchase standardized health care, I don't agree with at all.

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