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Because it is the right thing to do and leads to a more peaceful society.

Bingo!!! There is the flaw in the argument.

Yeah, because I said all of those things should be included in a living wage.

If you're going to try to make an argument, don't just make stuff up to assert ridiculous hyperbolic statements.

Well tell us why there should be healthcare
for everyone? I'm interested in your opinion

Why should someone not have a choice to see a certain Dr? Also, why should me or you have to pay for someone else to have insurance?

Because it's a fundamental pillar of civilized society. I'm not saying it should be free for everyone (personally, I'm a fan of the public option) but I don't believe that any society can call itself civilized without making affordable healthcare available to all citizens, regardless of socioeconomic status. U.S. citizens have an inalienable right to life, and it's absurd to deny anyone this right if they're poor - just like the inalienable right to liberty, hence why the U.S. abolished debtors' prisons.

You can see whatever doctor you want. What the hell are you talking about?? And we are paying for those same people that dont have insurance now to go to emergency rooms when they are sick. It would be less expensive to pay for some insurances through subsidies and rebates and make them pay for some of it also.

Yea you can see whatever Dr right now but that could change. I've got an answer for a lot of this...people get off their lazy butts and work.

Yea and all guns will be banned and the US will become a communist state and monkeys will fly out of my ass.

Not my problem that some want to be sorry.

Because they're still at risk of getting hurt.

By "doesn't want healthcare" I'm assuming you mean "doesn't want to purchase healthcare insurance." However, presumably they'll want insurance if they get hurt. If everyone waits until they need healthcare to purchase insurance, insurance rates skyrocket, and society ends up paying for this person's mistake.

Alternatively, if someone doesn't even want insurance once they get injured and wants to pay out of pocket (although I doubt you'll find anyone who'll want that), they'll be paying more (thanks to jacked up medical prices) than they would had they been paying for insurance all along. So, in the first instance, it's cheaper for the rest of society to make everyone buy healthcare. In the second instance, it's not only cheaper for the person themself, but it's also cheaper for society to make this person buy healthcare.

Basically, the individual mandate would just take the costs that are being spread out over the rest of society for those people without healthcare insurance and focus them on the people who are currently not paying for healthcare insurance but would be forced to buy in under the new system. If you currently pay for health insurance of any kind, there's no reason why you shouldn't support the individual mandate.

Honestly, what part of you doesn't understand that FORCING PEOPLE TO BUY HEALTHCARE isn't a handout?

There is no free healthcare being handed out here. There's nothing being given for free. People are being forced to pay for healthcare that they otherwise wouldn't have before. If anything, this program eliminates handouts.

I said it bc it already happens.