The Blue Board

Em

Very tough one but I'm going with Jay Z.

Slim

Jay-Z is better. By a good margin.

Eminent. He blew J up on his own song to prOve it.

Em can spit.

But, come on? Roc-a-fella brought rap back. Jay is the Roc.

I dont think there's one rapper that influence the game like him.

Just look at who he put on, and helped get back hot.

Ross
Jeezy
Camron
Jim Jones
Juelz
Rhianna
Luda
J. Cole
Lupe
Kanye
He wrote Dr Dre's verse in "Forgot about Dre"
He wrote "Coming Home" for Diddy

Then he hit you with that, "Ball so hard"

Label/financial, Diddy? Wrong, on so many levels.

On songs alone, Jay Z dominates Em.

Jay can go from 99 problems to Big Pimpin to Run this town to Hard Knock life, and not miss a beat.

He's way more diverse than Em.

Jay Z advanced many, many careers of artists and still stayed relevant as an artist. You cant just sweep that under the rug, when thats a major part of hiphop's culture.
Roc-a-fella will go down in hiphop history because of Jay Z. You cant turn a blind eye to that.

He even signed Nas, lol

Diddy doesnt have a larger net worth, music wise. Sean John is probably everything.

And primo>jdilla

Jay Z is still a much larger deal in the game than Eminem.

Dr Dre is over Shady Records

Jay Z over Roc Nation

First of all, Biggie is only one artist. Since he passed, who's Bad Boy's biggest stars? Ma$e? Shyne? loooool. Bad Boy's roster is a complete joke, Diddy has done literally nothing to move rap forward. Look at CRgator's list of artists Roc-A-Fella and Def Jam are/were behind...it's a who's who of the best-selling artists of the past decade.

Second, try to remember that Biggie only made two albums before he died. He might be better than anyone on the Roc, but he's not bigger.

There are only two things Diddy has on Jay-Z: Sean John is a better brand than Rocawear, and Diddy actually owns Ciroc whereas Jay-Z just gets paid to promote Ace. But purely looking at them as label execs, Jay-Z >>>>>>>>>>>> Diddy

Agree with this 100%. And let's try to keep in mind that in addition to being more varied than Jay-Z, Eminem's songs are just better. Better flow, better technical skills, high concepts, and Em never gets murdered on his own song, whereas that happens to Jay pretty much every time he brings on a guest rapper with any profile. Even in Big Pimpin, one of the songs CRgator is citing, Jay gets owned by both members of UGK.

What great "real" songs, outside of lose yourself and I am, has Em made.

The guy has the best flow mixed with simplistic lyrics. His arrangement on songs is the best, but the lyrics are definitely not the best.

Based on what?