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  • you're splitting hairs. that's oversigning.

    roger huerta

  • roger huerta said...

    at "committable offer"

    that's the $ec!$ec!$ec! for ya!! if you tell a kid he has an offer, he has an offer, otherwise you are lying to him. which is it?

    117 offers, committable or not, is the most offers uga has put out in a while (i stopped looking at 09).

    we have 103 in May where we had 106 for the entire year last year. If that does not seam low to you, I'm not sure what to tell you. To compare other schools Bama had 149. Auburn had over 150. Michigan had 132.

    I am hoping that you really know more that you are indicating you do about how the recruiting process works offer wise. I think you should look more into this rather than just spouting of numbers of sites which inform you that the offer list is not an accurate representation of who actually has a commitable offer. The fact that the term commitable offer made you laugh just reaffirms my speculation.

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  • jkt360 said...

    we have 103 in May where we had 106 for the entire year last year. If that does not seam low to you, I'm not sure what to tell you. To compare other schools Bama had 149. Auburn had over 150. Michigan had 132.

    per rivals, you had 117 offers in 2012.

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  • jkt360 said...

    I am hoping that you really know more that you are indicating you do about how the recruiting process works offer wise. I think you should look more into this rather than just spouting of numbers of sites which inform you that the offer list is not an accurate representation of who actually has a commitable offer. The fact that the term commitable offer made you laugh just reaffirms my speculation.

    the term "committable offer" is a bs safety net that $ec!$ec!$ec! coaches created to cover their asses. it allows them to offer 100+ kids and not have to honor their offer. it's a safety net so that they can continue to chase bigger fish.

    bottom line is that it's a bullshlt practice. if you offer a kid, honor the offer.

    roger huerta

  • Not sure if the number LOI's is the issue; it's how many actually enroll. For example: let's say last year you had 25 spots available. You sign 25 and 2 of those don't make it. ( 85 - 2 ) That year you could only have 83. The next season is over and you lose 25 kids and 3 to the NFL as JR's leaving you 30 under 85. In the next class, you can sign 5 EE's and 25 more LOI's (30 players). Since the EE's come in January, they can count towards the previous class. In other words, 25 enrollments per class. That is the way I understand it. Not the number of LOI's but the number of players there.

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  • So you are suggesting SEC schools offer how many players?

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  • I LOVE UGA said...

    So you are suggesting SEC schools offer how many players?

    Apparently under the rules, SEC teams can sign 25 LOIs per year plus take as many EEs as they can fit. That adds up to 100+ LOIs every four years.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    "Attrition" is the problem. No one cares how many new kids you take. It's what you have to do to fit them under the NCAA caps that bothers people and most of those things fall under the definition of "attrition". Look, I don't know UGA's situation so I am not really commenting on them. I was just commenting on the SEC rule that was put in place to prevent too much "attrition". I thought the rule was you could only sign 25 players a year (previously 28), but if you can get around that rule by just picking up 6-10 EEs on the side you might as well can the rule in the first place. It certainly doesn't do anything to reduce "attrition".

    Not reading whole thread, BUT... If you have a full 25 class in the last cycle, you can't back count early enrollees. So, you can only take 25 total unless you meet 2 conditions: 1) Have early enrollees and 2) Have spots in the LAST class where they can back fill.

    You can have all the early entries you want, but have to meet condition #2 for it to allow you to sign more than 25.

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  • I get your point but I talking to the guy with the Speedy Gonzalez pic. He's making it seem like all schools don't offer 100 plus players.

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  • Montavious, Foster, Tray... on top of Liner getting a 5* will put us at numero uno.... beeeeeetches

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  • I LOVE UGA said...

    I get your point but I talking to the guy with the Speedy Gonzalez pic. He's making it seem like all schools don't offer 100 plus players.

    true. not all schools offer 100+ players.

    roger huerta

  • roger huerta said...

    true. not all schools offer 100+ players.

    So there are some schools that only offer the amount of spots they have available, you are saying? So there are schools out there with 10-25 offers out?

    Otherwise, you have no point.

    This post was edited by Mr Perfect on 5/31/2012 at 4:20 PM

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  • Notre Dame will have a top 10 class. Isaac Rochell. Jaylon Smith, Anzalone, Doug Randolph, Alquadin Muhammed

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  • fsufsu said...

    I wonder if there'll be a team that trips the formula like Miami last year. With a total outlier in average star rating amongst other top 10 teams.

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  • abs_da_don said...

    fail

    Without making any reaches we will have a top five class with only 18 players. Already have two 5* locked up, are locks for Cravens on 6/6, lead for Priest Willis, and are probably not going to have a prospect below 4*.

    The average star ranking is going to be legendary.

    Edit: didn't mean to quote you

    This post was edited by Alonzo Harris on 5/31/2012 at 6:12 PM

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  • Why the hell does everyone have OSU in their top 3, they can't sign many players and aren't in on that many top players.

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  • Bo Knows said...

    So there are some schools that only offer the amount of spots they have available, you are saying? So there are schools out there with 10-25 offers out?

    Otherwise, you have no point.

    what i said was "not all schools offer 100+ players."

    last 5 years

    texas - 49, 33, 33, 32, 33

    roger huerta

  • NDPhilly said...

    Notre Dame will have a top 10 class. Isaac Rochell. Jaylon Smith, Anzalone, Doug Randolph, Alquadin Muhammed

    I sure hope you dont think your REALLY gunna land all those guys, your setting yourself up for failure..

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  • roger huerta said...

    per rivals, you had 117 offers in 2012.

    Yeah, cause that's an accurate source...

    Nobody other than the coaching staff REALLY knows who has what offer as the schools aren't allowed to talk about it. So sites have to speculate and go based on what prospects, parents and HS coaches tell them.

    In the case of Keyante, had he committed when offered we would have taken him. He was offered last July though and proceeded to have a disappointing Jr season and our coaches decided we should look elsewhere and moved on. For all us fans actually know, his offer had been rescinded.

    A guy like Justin Taylor, the RB that committed to Bama and then got recruited over and ended up going to UK, is a better example of offer numbers getting bloated. He had some interest in UGA, but no offer when he committed to Alabama. We offered shortly after his commitment, but it was more of a gesture to make sure we didn't PO the coaches by not offering their "star" than an actual real offer.

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  • roger huerta said...

    what i said was "not all schools offer 100+ players."

    last 5 years

    texas - 49, 33, 33, 32, 33

    Bad example. MOST schools do offer 100+ players. Texas gets to cherry pick a VERY talent rich state so they don't have to send out as many offers as most schools typically do.

    Nicolae

  • 386gator said...

    I sure hope you dont think your REALLY gunna land all those guys, your setting yourself up for failure..

    It's ok. They've built up quite a tolerance by now.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Apparently under the rules, SEC teams can sign 25 LOIs per year plus take as many EEs as they can fit. That adds up to 100+ LOIs every four years.

    No, it doesn't. It is still just 25 guys per year, there are no extra EEs. You can only fit as many EEs as you have room under the 25-man limit from the previous year. I'll explain UGA's situation (a little bit simplified) to clarify the confusion:

    Last year (2011) UGA signed 19 guys, but only 16 in the 2011 class as 3 of those guys counted back to the 2010 class. That left us 8 scholarships shy of the 25 man cap in 2011 which allows us to sign up to 33 this year (2012) PROVIDED that at least 8 of them are EEs. We can sign more than 8 EEs (and it looks like we will), but only 8 can count back.

    In this scenario, we are only signing 25 guys in the 2012 class even though we would be bringing in 33. The other 8 are in the 2011 class. So it isn't oversigning, it is simply catching up to where we are supposed to be. UGA doesn't oversign.

    This post was edited by Nicolae on 5/31/2012 at 9:43 PM

    Nicolae

  • 1. Bama
    2. Texas
    3. Ohio Stte
    4. Florida
    5. UGA

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  • There is probably only ONE school out there that doesn't throw atleast 100 offers out each year and thats Texas. An offer is a term used loosely in recruiting. It's a foot in the door to see where it goes. I know there are several highly ranked kids who have tried to get into UF's class and can't right now. Thats the way it is for all top recruiting programs.

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