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Teo shouldn't even be in new york

  • Leppycole said...

    Manzel will never play a down in the NFL - too small. I like his story and he is exiting to watch - but one year does not make a heiseman either - voters look at a body of work. A flash in the pan is not Heisman material. A&M loses to Bama - and Manzel is not going to NYC either - you cannot say ESECPN hyped Teo and slow played Manzel - A&M beats Bama - Manzel moves from nobody to top of the list due to ESPN hype.

    I'm a team guy and think individual awards are pointless in a team sport anyway. The Heisman is a popularity contest anyway.

    I have said for years they should dump the Heisman because it has nothing to do with integrity and being well rounded as the rules state - past winners have been arrested and part of recruiting violation allegations prior to winning.

    Manzel is 1-2 vs "then top 25 teams" when A&M played them. Is the loss on Manzel or the team? I say the team, but some will unfairly hold that against Manzel in voting.

    My point is that it is just a popularity contest.

    I agree. the heisman is the dumbest award in sports in sports. Purely hype and very little substance.

    I disagree with your assessment about Manziel's pro potential. He is around 6' and 200 lbs(actually listed at 6' 1" but I think that generous) witch puts him in the same area size as Drew Brees, Mike Vick, and Russell Wilson. Heck, he probably isn't that much shorter than guys like Romo or Rodgers to be honest.

    I saw the kid in person at Bama and he is legit. Kid has a very good arm also. I think people assume he can't play in the league because of his style of play and use his size as justification but people need to realize the kid is a great athlete but can also make the throws necessary.

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  • bamabum5 said...

    actually, his numbers weren't that bad against Florida. If you want just yards, he even had ver 300 total yards by himself against LSU as well. The only bad game he really had was LSU because of the TOs but he has not been stopped by anyone. He set the total yard in a season record in 2 less games than Cam Newton...think about that.

    He has great numbers - but the stupid award is not about stats

    Leppycole

  • bamabum5 said...

    bonafide retard^^^^

    No kidding.

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  • This thread just shows how delusional ND fans are.

    FACT: If manti teo played on UGA or Bama he wouldn't be in new york. You're lucky the notre dame brand is carrying him.

    His mediocre stats are being covered up by his sad story and his ''emotional" leadership.

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  • Leppycole said...

    Manzel will never play a down in the NFL - too small. I like his story and he is exiting to watch - but one year does not make a heiseman either - voters look at a body of work. A flash in the pan is not Heisman material. A&M loses to Bama - and Manzel is not going to NYC either - you cannot say ESECPN hyped Teo and slow played Manzel - A&M beats Bama - Manzel moves from nobody to top of the list due to ESPN hype.

    I'm a team guy and think individual awards are pointless in a team sport anyway. The Heisman is a popularity contest anyway.

    I have said for years they should dump the Heisman because it has nothing to do with integrity and being well rounded as the rules state - past winners have been arrested and part of recruiting violation allegations prior to winning.

    Manzel is 1-2 vs "then top 25 teams" when A&M played them. Is the loss on Manzel or the team? I say the team, but some will unfairly hold that against Manzel in voting.

    My point is that it is just a popularity contest.

    Uh, wrong. Manziel is 4-2 against "then ranked teams." Plus this isn't based on who is going to the NFL either. Add that to the fact that Nix is a better defender than Teo, and I'll call it a wrap.

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  • bamabum5 said...

    I agree. the heisman is the dumbest award in sports in sports. Purely hype and very little substance.

    I disagree with your assessment about Manziel's pro potential. He is around 6' and 200 lbs(actually listed at 6' 1" but I think that generous) witch puts him in the same area size as Drew Brees, Mike Vick, and Russell Wilson. Heck, he probably isn't that much shorter than guys like Romo or Rodgers to be honest.

    I saw the kid in person at Bama and he is legit. Kid has a very good arm also. I think people assume he can't play in the league because of his style of play and use his size as justification but people need to realize the kid is a great athlete but can also make the throws necessary.

    Yeah - I'll take back what I said - he does have a couple more years to develop

    This thread is unnecessary - OP saying Teo does not deserve to be in NY is his opinion - while I think he is wrong - he is entitled to it

    Leppycole

  • bamabum5 said...

    I agree. the heisman is the dumbest award in sports in sports. Purely hype and very little substance.

    I disagree with your assessment about Manziel's pro potential. He is around 6' and 200 lbs(actually listed at 6' 1" but I think that generous) witch puts him in the same area size as Drew Brees, Mike Vick, and Russell Wilson. Heck, he probably isn't that much shorter than guys like Romo or Rodgers to be honest.

    I saw the kid in person at Bama and he is legit. Kid has a very good arm also. I think people assume he can't play in the league because of his style of play and use his size as justification but people need to realize the kid is a great athlete but can also make the throws necessary.

    Shh, don't tell the facts to those enamored by a linebacker that is a dime a dozen in the SEC. Mingo>>>Teo.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Uh, wrong. Manziel is 4-2 against "then ranked teams." Plus this isn't based on who is going to the NFL either. Add that to the fact that Nix is a better defender than Teo, and I'll call it a wrap.

    Y do u keep trying to count Arkansas as a ranked opponent they were not ranked when u played them either u literally know nothing about college football

    jwood05

  • Status said...

    Johnny has more forced fumbles than manti teo.

    How pathetic is that?

    And has more interceptions than any defensive back in the SEC. How sad is that? If you are going to pick at a single statistic, don't make it so painfully obvious you are trying to swing it in your favor.

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  • Q: How many interceptions out of his 7 INTs does Teo have agaist QBs ranked in the top 70 in the country in pass efficiency?

    A: 1. It was a ball that was popped up in the air by an OU WR who by the way was interfered with when the ND defender hit him well before the ball got there.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Shh, don't tell the facts to those enamored by a linebacker that is a dime a dozen in the SEC. Mingo>>>Teo.

    You just sound stupid with that.

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  • If people don't bash on Johnny, then I don't bash on Teo.

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  • Best player on the #1 team in the country. That's why he's going.

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  • USC ran weak side all night to stay away from Teo - when you game plan to stay away from a linebacker - says something

    Nix is great - this year - he could not last 4 plays in a row last year. It's all perspective

    The hating is pointless - all the candidates are great players.

    Manzel has a great line and great WR's - he did not do it alone just like Teo did not do it alone

    Leppycole

  • NDGuyinFL said...

    Best player on the #1 team in the country. That's why he's going.

    Too bad he isn't better than Nix.

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  • The funny thing is I think manziel should win it and teo shoul finish 2nd it just pisses me off when people say teo shouldn't be invited

    jwood05

  • Lots of stupid in this thread. Teo is good but is no more deserving than Jarvis Jones. Simple way to decide this. Take out Teo and swap him with Manziel. Is ND still undefeated with Manziel as their QB? I'd say yes. Is A&M 10-2 with Teo as their LB. no where close.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Q: How many interceptions out of his 7 INTs does Teo have agaist QBs ranked in the top 70 in the country in pass efficiency?

    A: 1. It was a ball that was popped up in the air by an OU WR who by the way was interfered with when the ND defender hit him well before the ball got there.

    Ok - then take away Manzel's stats against shitty defenses.

    This could go back and forth with that type of thinking

    Leppycole

  • Dr Pepper said...

    Lots of stupid in this thread. Teo is good but is no more deserving than Jarvis Jones. Simple way to decide this. Take out Teo and swap him with Manziel. Is ND still undefeated with Manziel as their QB? I'd say yes. Is A&M 10-2 with Teo as their LB. no where close.

    You have no idea how much of a leader Teo is.

    Without Teo - ND is 8-4 in my opinion.

    Leppycole

  • NDGuyinFL said...

    And has more interceptions than any defensive back in the SEC. How sad is that? If you are going to pick at a single statistic, don't make it so painfully obvious you are trying to swing it in your favor.

    That's really not that sad considering the SEC is a run first league

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  • USMCAG said...

    If people don't bash on Johnny, then I don't bash on Teo.

    ND fans did not start this retarded thread.

    Leppycole

  • Leppycole said...

    You have no idea how much of a leader Teo is.

    Without Teo - ND is 8-4 in my opinion.

    roflmao Emotional leadership! Heart!

    Oh, his stats are slightly above average though...

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  • Lots of funny people ITT.

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  • Leppycole said...

    A&M loses to Bama - and Manzel is not going to NYC either -

    If ND loses to pitt, teo isn't going either.

    Usually a defensive player has to be other wordly to get to ny. Teo is great, but not jaw dropping.

    Saying Teo belongs as a heisman favorite is ridiculous. I dont think he even belongs in NY.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • irishyoung420 said...

    Lots of funny people ITT.

    Agreed, didn't know ND fans were this funny.

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