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Terrorism

  • spcbuzzard said...

    bad idea. You can't make someone defend something if they don't want to. Besides the draft didn't do so well for us in the 60's and 70's.

    Vietnam wasn't the drafts fault homie

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  • rms02d said...

    A draft would make everyone in American think about war, instead of saying "whatever"

    This is certainly true

    And it might help put an end to this belief americans have that our military is unbeatable and untouchable

    Nothing could be further from the truth

    Our enemies aren't idiots and won't fight tank to tank or fighter jet to fighter jet

    Nope, instead they hide in mountains where our technology is practically useless

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/12/2012 at 11:59 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    They want to stand up to the Taliban, end of story

    They just don't trust anybody, not the Taliban nor US forces and for good reason

    actually the vast majority of the populace want the out of there. Most people realize that they were bad for them.

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  • spcbuzzard said...

    actually the vast majority of the populace want the out of there. Most people realize that they were bad for them.

    Wut ?

    Did I not just say that ?

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  • rms02d said...

    Yes because it was a stupid war.

    A draft would make everyone in American think about war, instead of saying "whatever"

    Being drafted to fight Hitler is one thing, getting shot at over a choice of goverments in Vietnam is quite another.

    Thats the point! you swear an oath to the constitution. Not the country, not the president. You are there of your own free will, weather you agree with those reasons or not. The strength of one volunter is more powerful than 10 hired soldiers. It doesn't matter if your fighting Hitler or in Vietnam, if you make everyone serve then you are going to have a crappy armed forces along with an unhappy populace.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Vietnam wasn't the drafts fault homie

    never said it was.

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  • rms02d said...

    Of course you can.

    The Soviets used machine guns behind their lines to force the issue.

    and that turned out so well for them biggrin

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Wut ?

    Did I not just say that ?

    my bad man, i misread what you wrote. Not going to lie, been drinking a little.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    This isn't news really

    Afghanistan is a lawless place pretty much and Im sure there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye

    Either way I don't see anything changing on this front

    The War on Terror is far from over and stupid crap like this happening is pretty much par for the course

    killing women and childern isn't "stupid crap", disgusting post man.

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  • Black Shipley said...

    The people of afganistan and pakistan outnumber the taliban exponentially. All they need to do is have some backbone and organize. Its obvious that the notion of liberty is lost on their culture. Its not up to us to teach them.

    Its not up to us ? lol, then what have we been doing for the last 10 years ?

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  • This is a terrible damn situation. Empathy is needed in this situation to understand what happened.

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  • Black Shipley said...

    The people of afganistan and pakistan outnumber the taliban exponentially. All they need to do is have some backbone and organize. Its obvious that the notion of liberty is lost on their culture. Its not up to us to teach them.

    it is when the taliban is our target so we essentially invade their country, and do what we want. Now were ready to leave and you think what? that we shouldn't help them defend themselves against a mutual enemy? Not give them the training that they have asked for? Not give them the means to goevern themselves more effectivley so that it's harder for the taliban to get a foothold in the country again.

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  • Maple_leaf said...

    killing women and childern isn't "stupid crap", disgusting post man.

    A soldier going nuts is " stupid crap " to me

    I have been over there and this is just another day sadly

    Take your tampon off and join the discussion or STFU

    I can't help you when you take my words way out of context

    Should I care more about these kids than all the others ? no, so this isn't news to me and I frankly don't even care anymore, this is the world we got and my actions aren't changing shit so fugg it

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  • Black Shipley said...

    Id love to see you pick apart my "retarded" post nova. But im guessing you cant, thus the "retarded" comment.

    He's correct though. We are there to fight terrorism and bring their people freedom, how can you argue that?

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  • Black Shipley said...

    Id love to see you pick apart my "retarded" post nova. But im guessing you cant, thus the "retarded" comment.

    I don't even need to waste my time

    You are likely a young kid who doesn't know shit, in fact your post was so retarded that you showed that in just a few words

    We didn't invade afghanistan to kill Bin Laden, and suggesting we should leave after his death like we accomplished anything shows how little you know about the current conflict over there

    Pick apart ? lmao, Im not here to convince you of reality

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/13/2012 at 12:10 AM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    A soldier going nuts is " stupid crap " to me

    I have been over there and this is just another day sadly

    Take your tampon off and join the discussion or STFU

    I can't help you when you take my words way out of context

    Should I care more about these kids than all the others ? no, so this isn't news to me and I frankly don't even care anymore, this is the world we got and my actions aren't changing shit so fugg it

    its serious, and we have to hold both the military and the soldier accountable. Have some empathy man, imagine one of those kids was your brother, or one of those ladies your mother.

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  • rms02d said...

    But the constitution doesn't say anything about being the worlds police force or intervening in a foreign country to dismantle a political ideology that you don't agree with.

    If you make everyone fight, then they will pick their fights.

    Every US conflict since WWII was a waste of American resources and blood.

    IF anything the founding fathers would have been disgusted by the intervention in Vietnam.

    WOW!

    The constitution says we have the right to protect ourselves. What about "invading" a foreign country for our own natiaonal security sound like being world police?

    So preventing the spread of communism was wrong? Trying to get food to people in somalia was wrong?

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  • USMCAG said...

    He's correct though. We are there to fight terrorism and bring their people freedom, how can you argue that?

    Cause he doesn't know a damn thing

    Just another college student who has never been there talking out of his ass cause he decided to read CNN today

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  • Maple_leaf said...

    its serious, and we have to hold both the military and the soldier accountable. Have some empathy man, imagine one of those kids was your brother, or one of those ladies your mother.

    lol shut up man, you misread my post so badly you clearly don't understand my stance on this issue

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  • Black Shipley said...

    Comparing american citizens to those of afganistan and pakistan? Lol!

    How is me calling you what you are a comparison to the people over there ?

    Your stupidity grows with each post

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  • Maple_leaf said...

    its serious, and we have to hold both the military and the soldier accountable. Have some empathy man, imagine one of those kids was your brother, or one of those ladies your mother.

    I will not blame my United States Military for this action. I refuse to.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    lol shut up man, you misread my post so badly you clearly don't understand my stance on this issue

    can't have a rational argument with you. Anyone who hasn't been there has no say, i got it.

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  • Black Shipley said...

    And how long now have we been over there doing exactly that spc? And then their people murder americans for destroying holy books that were already defaced by our mutual.enemy? Yeah, lets give it two more years! Thatll make a shitton of difference.

    Shut the f up about shit you have no idea about.

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  • Black Shipley said...

    Uh yeah, dumbfvck...thats exactly why we invaded afganistan..to kill bin laden. where the fvck were you in 2001? Fvcking idiot.

    roflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmao and there is the last bit of proof we needed to show your worth to this discussion

    Killing Bin-Laden was far from the only reason we went over there

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