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Thanks obama

  • VTSmitty said...

    Why waste the time? You know there is nothing anyone here can say that will change your view. You don't know what is in the bill or what the ramifications from it will be, but if Obama says it's good, it must be good.

    We've had discussions about this before, come on. You know I know the bill.

    On the other hand, I still have yet to hear an explanation from you about why the bill is so terrible. I believe you know the bill, but if you talked to insurance company execs, you should have pretty detailed reasoning for why the ACA is so bad. If you could walk me through that reasoning, I'd greatly appreciate it, because right now I legitimately don't understand where you're coming from.

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    CMXI

  • VTSmitty said...

    Seriously?

    Here is the link

    Affordable Insurance Exchanges | HealthCare.gov

    Starting in 2014, you will be able to shop for insurance and compare health plans in new state-based Affordable Insurance Exchanges. Find out more at HealthCare.gov.

    www.healthcare.gov

    Ego Trip

  • VTSmitty said...

    Seriously?

    More

    Affordable Insurance Exchanges | cciio.cms.gov

    The Affordable Care Act helps create a competitive private health insurance market through the creation of health insurance Exchanges. These state-run, transparent marketplaces, which launch in 2014, will provide millions of Americans and small businesses with “one-stop shopping” for affordable coverage. They will also provide the sole venue where Members of Congress will get their health insurance.

    cciio.cms.gov

    Ego Trip

  • USMCAG said...

    Very true. I just didn't know it meant fvcking the military and veterans.

    only people of color are exempt ...didnt you get the memo Top? ..we are the new America...

    Raging Bull

  • Raging Bull said...

    only people of color are exempt ...didnt you get the memo Top? ..we are the new America...

    Beige, brown, and tan people are exempt. Peach people are not. What if you are naturally peach, but you lay in the sun all day. Your post is racist. I do not think there is racism in the USA anymore. Ideology is the new race affiliation. People in America are no longer divided by race as they were in the 50's. However, people are divided by ideals. You will still have the very small groups of any given race that do not like people of other ethnicities, but, for the most part, people in America are now bonded by their ideological beliefs. The majority of the people's ideology is moderate/liberal.

    Ego Trip

  • Doctors, Pharmaceutical Companies, Hospitals, and Insurance Companies & Brokers are against Obama Care because it tells them what to charge the consumer.

    Is this fair?

    Jagstyle

  • Ego Trip said...

    Beige, brown, and tan people are exempt. Peach people are not. What if you are naturally peach, but you lay in the sun all day. Your post is racist. I do not think there is racism in the USA anymore. Ideology is the new race affiliation. People in America are no longer divided by race as they were in the 50's. However, people are divided by ideals. You will still have the very small groups of any given race that do not like people of other ethnicities, but, for the most part, people in America are now bonded by their ideological beliefs. The majority of the people's ideology is moderate/liberal.

    You haven't even read the OP, have you?

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    USMCAG

  • sullkev said...

    Doctors, Pharmaceutical Companies, Hospitals, and Insurance Companies & Brokers are against Obama Care because it tells them what to charge the consumer.

    Is this fair?

    This is incredibly vague.

    I put out the call to VTSmitty, but he hasn't answered it, so I'll ask you: can you point me to the particularly objectionable parts of the ACA and walk me through what their effects would be?

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  • CMXI said...

    This is incredibly vague.

    I put out the call to VTSmitty, but he hasn't answered it, so I'll ask you: can you point me to the particularly objectionable parts of the ACA and walk me through what their effects would be?

    The whole thing lol

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    USMCAG

  • USMCAG said...

    The whole thing lol

    Now that you put it like that, I should have definitely have voted for Romney.

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    Now that you put it like that, I should have definitely have voted for Romney.

    Just like Texas wil seceed?

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    USMCAG

  • shortcbaseballa said...

    You know better than to bring up facts

    Facts? For who? Him? Maybe.

    In 2000 I was paying 78.00 per week. I now pay 120.00. That's not a huge change considering inflation.

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    DrStache

  • There is plenty of wasted money in the military that can be cut without taking away benifits of discharged and retired veterans. Im in Afghanistan now for my third deployment. I just relieved a unit and signed for over 5 million dollars of equiptment. There is so many pieces of equiptment that cost more money than you could imagine that have been sitting in a connex for years never to be used. Instead of using our own helicopters to transports troops to the outlying bases away from the mega FOB's, the government instead is paying a Canadian company to fly troops in civilian helicopters. The Army has an entire job for truck drivers, but yet they instead decide to use Afghani's and their "jingle trucks" to transport supplies. And last but definalty not least they are paying every single soldier that is here the same deployment and hazard duty benifits regardless of where they are and what they are doing. So all those soldiers who are live in their nice apartment style rooms and Bagram or Kandahar or all the other huge bases, with their nice AC, getting fat eating burger king every day and drinking their frozen coffee, and having dance parties at the MWR and all that garbage are making the exact same pay as the grunts out there actually fighting the enemy, living in old bombed out Afghani buildings, working all hours of the day. Its ridiculous. There are so many people on those mega bases that have never even come into contact with an actual afghani person. Pathetic. Bottom line is that there is alot of money that can be cut from the military but cutting it from the brave citizens who volunteered and make up less than 1% of the enitre country should never ever be an option. Even if it is 10 dollars. Cuz you know what. That 10 dollars might mean more to that person than you know.

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  • Mr.Stache said...

    Facts? For who? Him? Maybe.

    In 2000 I was paying 78.00 per week. I now pay 120.00. That's not a huge change considering inflation.

    There is no way in hell your insurance is that low, if you were paying $78 in 2000. So, you were paying roughly $312 a month in 2000, and you are paying roughly $480 a month in 2012. If this is the case, you open so many questions.

    1. Are you a liar

    2. Your deductible must be enormous

    3. Do you hav kids

    4. Do you have a clue

    5. Your parents must pay your insurance because what you posted does not exist.

    6. The $78 or $120 a week is a fib

    Why do people like you waist our time and post what ever falls out of your asz? Liars are lonely.

    When you make post like this one, it is clear that you have no idea about the world around you or what you are talking about.

    Ego Trip

  • USMCAG said...

    The whole thing lol

    The whole Republican party is a joke from the presidential nominees down to the clowns on this message board.

    Look in the mirror and lol at yourself. You will see the real joke.

    Ego Trip

  • Ego Trip said...

    There is no way in hell your insurance is that low, if you were paying $78 in 2000. So, you were paying roughly $312 a month in 2000, and you are paying roughly $480 a month in 2012. If this is the case, you open so many questions.

    1. Are you a liar

    2. Your deductible must be enormous

    3. Do you hav kids

    4. Do you have a clue

    5. Your parents must pay your insurance because what you posted does not exist.

    6. The $78 or $120 a week is a fib

    Why do people like you waist our time and post what ever falls out of your asz? Liars are lonely.

    When you make post like this one, it is clear that you have no idea about the world around you or what you are talking about.

    If it's through his employer that's pretty standard. For my family of 3 it's around 500 a month.

    Nole27

  • USMCAG said...

    As ridiculous as the healthcare benefits of politicians? Not even close, how about we start with them.

    Don't they get free healthcare for life? And they get to vote on their own pay increases?

    Course we could start an entire thread about that topic

    Bills2

  • Ego Trip said...

    There is no way in hell your insurance is that low, if you were paying $78 in 2000. So, you were paying roughly $312 a month in 2000, and you are paying roughly $480 a month in 2012. If this is the case, you open so many questions.

    1. Are you a liar

    2. Your deductible must be enormous

    3. Do you hav kids

    4. Do you have a clue

    5. Your parents must pay your insurance because what you posted does not exist.

    6. The $78 or $120 a week is a fib

    Why do people like you waist our time and post what ever falls out of your asz? Liars are lonely.

    When you make post like this one, it is clear that you have no idea about the world around you or what you are talking about.

    I pay about $56 a pay check (so every two weeks) for health insurance.

    Bills2

  • Nole27 said...

    If it's through his employer that's pretty standard. For my family of 3 it's around 500 a month.

    500 a month is pretty standard for today, but $320 a month in 2000 is BS. There is no way it was $320 12 years ago and just $480 now if he has the same insurance.

    I see why so many of you are attacking Obamacare. It is because you have no effing clue of the spike in premiums from 2001 - 2008. After Obama got in office, the cost of premiums stopped rising. I am obviously communicating with a bunch of people that do not work, or you are only about 24 - 27 or younger.

    Ego Trip

  • Bills2 said...

    I pay about $56 a pay check (so every two weeks) for health insurance.

    You are a liar, in the military, or 75 years of age or older.

    Ego Trip

  • Ego Trip said...

    You are a liar, in the military, or 75 years of age or older.

    Health Ins -56.55*

    That's straight from my pay check. I'm 24, not in the military, don't smoke, work 40 hours a week. Maybe I get the "not an asshole" discount that you aren't eligible for.

    This post was edited by Bills2 on 11/15/2012 at 1:00 PM

    Bills2

  • USMCAG said...

    Retirees Forced Off TRICARE Prime New TRICARE Prime rules will force retirees to use TRICARE Standard According to reports, Defense officials are expected to announce soon that military retirees and their dependents living more than 40 miles from a military treatment facility or base closure site will lose access to TRICARE Prime, the military’s managed care option.

    This would force as many as 171,000 retirees to shift to TRICARE Standard, their fee-for-service insurance option, which would mean an increase in out-of-pocket costs for beneficiaries who are frequent users of health services.

    Although, active duty members and their families generally would not be impacted, drilling National Guard members and reservists living far from military bases could see small increases to health costs.

    The new TRICARE support contracts are designed to constrict Prime service areas and reduce the DoD’s cost for providing health care to military retirees.

    Sounds reasonable to me.

    Thanks Bush and Cheney for sending hundreds of thousands of troops into harm's way to fight a war where no Al Qaeda existed before we got there, and into a country that had neither weapons of mass destruction nor a capability to build weapons of mass destruction. By the way, how much did that add to the defecit?

    Fatarat

  • Ego Trip said...

    500 a month is pretty standard for today, but $320 a month in 2000 is BS. There is no way it was $320 12 years ago and just $480 now if he has the same insurance.

    I see why so many of you are attacking Obamacare. It is because you have no effing clue of the spike in premiums from 2001 - 2008. After Obama got in office, the cost of premiums stopped rising. I am obviously communicating with a bunch of people that do not work, or you are only about 24 - 27 or younger.

    What's got your panties bunched my man? If the dude doesn't want to partake in the ACA he can pay the tax and abstain. Obama won. There'll be no repeal. I'm not sure what your arguing, or why you care what someone pays/paid for insurance.

    This post was edited by Nole27 on 11/15/2012 at 1:41 PM

    Nole27

  • Nole27 said...

    What's got your panties bunched my man? If the dude doesn't want to partake in the ACA he can pay the tax and abstain. Obama won. There'll be no repeal. I'm not sure what your arguing, or why you care what someone pays/paid for insurance.

    I assume he's trolling because his comments are irrational and without a logical thought process. I guess he could be a woman.

    VTSmitty

  • Low tolerence for stupidity, but I will let it go. UCLA, Stanford, Wake Forest, and Baylor win this weekend. What do you think?

    Ego Trip