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FortWorthTide said...
7 of the 8 teams form 4 pairs of old rivalries (OU has two) . That helps those numbers a whole lot. It makes sense that Alabama is the outlier in the "games against each other". Look at College Football Data Warehouse. I know not everyone agrees on it, but use their all time rankings as a general measuring stick. They have the same 8 top teams. Alabama has a rivalry with none. However, we have played for decades the following teams in the all time rankings (and have winning records against all, most by a large margin) LSU 9th, Tennessee 10th, Georgia 11th, Florida 12th, and auburn 14th. Even if we disagree on their ranking methodology, that's 5 consensus top 15-20 programs all time. We own the record against all. I definitely think that should come into play, because in the case of all other teams on the blue blood list, none have more than one old rivalry with another top 15-20 team (except OU's two).
Taking it a step further, one could even make the case that the reason none of those 5 crack the top 8 is because they had to play Alabama (and the other top 15 level teams in the conference) every year. No other conference has more than two teams in the top 15-20.
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Is UM/ND not considered a rivalry? If not then ok, but UM isn't that far behind SC for me. Saw someone mention no conference affiliation as a reason Bama has not played blue bloods, BS.
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FortWorthTide said...
7 of the 8 teams form 5 pairs of old rivalries (OU, ND, and UM have two each) . That helps those numbers a whole lot. It makes sense that Alabama is the outlier in the "games against each other". Look at College Football Data Warehouse. I know not everyone agrees on it, but use their all time rankings as a general measuring stick. They have the same 8 top teams. Alabama has a rivalry with none. However, we have played for decades the following teams in the all time rankings (and have winning records against all, most by a large margin) LSU 9th, Tennessee 10th, Georgia 11th, Florida 12th, and auburn 14th. Even if we disagree on their ranking methodology, that's 5 consensus top 15-20 programs all time. We own the record against all. I definitely think that should come into play, because in the case of all other teams on the blue blood list, none have more than two old rivalries with another top 15-20 team (most just have one).
Taking it a step further, one could even make the case that the reason none of those 5 crack the top 8 is because they had to play Alabama (and the other top 15 level teams in the conference) every year. No other conference has more than two teams in the top 15-20.
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I understand what you are saying, but this was just about the teams that are over .700 all-time. Also, if you take away SC's games vs ND all-time, SC still has played around nearly twice as many games against the blue bloods as Alabama.
When I get a chance I'll take a look at some of the numbers for the teams at the next level that you are talking about.
This post was edited by FortWorthTide on 1/2/2013 at 4:50 PM
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
I understand what you are saying, but this was just about the teams that are over .700 all-time. Also, if you take away SC's games vs ND all-time, SC still has played around nearly twice as many games against the blue bloods as Alabama.
When I get a chance I'll take a look at some of the numbers for the teams at the next level that you are talking about.
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The .700 Club (The 8 blue bloods vs each other all-time)