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SkullyMaroo said...
Touching on what others have posted, these numbers are skewed! Bama not having a conference mate or rival that is a "blue blood" hurts the perception these numbers give off. This means Bama played most other blue bloods in bowl games, which means they were almost always playing good teams, especially when Bowls were limited. It's not like other teams who played each other yearly. You have to be careful when looking at numbers like these because they don't give the complete story.
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Macdaddy7930 said...
You can always scew stats to say whatever you want to say.
For instance, with a minimum of 1000 games played, Bama plays more top 20 teams (in terms of winning %) than any other "blue blood". UTk (9th), LSU (11th), UGA (12th), UF (13th), AU (14th), and can add aTm (20th).
No other team comes close to that.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Wow, even if you add in games vs Georgia and Florida, Alabama still has fewer games played than USC, Michigan, ND, and Oklahoma. Slackers indeed.
Alabama has played Florida 38 times and Georgia 64 times despite being in the same conf. for around 90 years. That's some real deceptive SEC scheduling right there. Alabama's played Auburn 71 times and LSU 76 times.
Meanwhile non conf foes SC & ND have played 84 times.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
There's only 8 teams who are in the .700 club. Pretty hard to skew that. It is what it is. Alabama's played only 38 games against the elite teams.
Maybe Alabama is in the .700 club because they haven't played 135+ plus games against the other elite like the other 7 teams have. Should Bama be booted from the .700 club for weak strength of schedule. Maybe the minimum amount of games played to qualify should be 50.
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FortWorthTide said...
Not all of the rivalries stretch the entire history of the conference. The Auburn series even took an extended break for several years. And you chose not to add Tennessee, who is historically the second best SEC program and one of our longest rivals (more games played than against any of the teams you mentioned).
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Macdaddy7930 said...
Funny that you mention the .700 club vs each other but only use the last 50 years ('63-'12). Why not use all time? Oh yea, that's because SC is only 69-64. Again skewed stats.
Here are a few interesting stats:
SC's record (winning %) the last 50 years ('63-12) is good enough for 8th (409-159-15; 583 games); Bama is 6th (424-156-5).
SC's bowl record during this timeframe is 21-13; however when they aren't playing in the Rose Bowl against the Big 10, they are 7-7.
Also worth noting in the last 50 years, that SC has missed making a bowl 13 times. Bama has only missed a bowl 6 times over the last half century.
SC isn't quite as good as you think, but continue to screw your stats. Life gets tough when you can't pick on the Big 10.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Read the O.P. again, it shows the last 50 years and all-time. Not sure how you missed that. You do know that up until 1975 only the Pac12 champ went to a Bowl. That's why Bama has a few more bowl wins than SC, but SC has the best bowl win pct of any team in the nation with at least 30 bowl games played.
Anyways, I would say that if USC has only 3 more losses than Bama but played like 60 more games than Bama did against the other top 7 teams, then your stat makes SC look pretty good.
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FortWorthTide said...
Should the other 7 teams be booted because they haven't played the most games against top 15 programs? Because Alabama would be number one in that category by a wide margin. Pick your stats however you want, but claiming Alabama has the weakest SOS of that group is laughable. This thread started out more reasonably than most (with a fellow Trojan even agreeing with some of my points, and you acknowledging a few). Now you're pushing it in the direction of a troll thread. I'm sure myself and several others would be happy to have an intelligent discussion if you're actually willing to return to it.
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Macdaddy7930 said...
Actually Bama has played 585 games over that time, so only two more than SC.
I can also understand why the PAC12 didn't want anyone, but their champ to play in bowl games. Congrats on beating up the Big 10, but 7-8 outside of the Rose isn't very good.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
You obviously missed the post that shows how USC and the Pac12 have the best record in the big 5 traditional new years day bowls and BCS MNCG.
That record only got better and more dominate after 1975. That's why the SEC made the bowl tie ins the way they did in 98. Notice they wanted no part of the Pac. What's funny is even without SC, the other Pac 12 teams had a better win% than current SEC members do in the big 5 bowl games all-time.
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The .700 Club (The 8 blue bloods vs each other all-time)