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The Official Michigan, MSU, and 1 Random Guy from Arky Thread

  • Is Lewan holding a press conference? I've never seen a press conference where a player decides to stay.

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  • copemoney0 said...

    It will be close, but hard to not give Duke the edge with a neutral court W over Louisville- don't care how close it was.. that's impressive

    Why? Duke beat OSU at home (barely) and Minnesota on a neutral court. If we beat them both on their home floors, how is that not more impressive? The reality is, we don't really know how good Louisville is. For all we know, they will wilt in BE play. At least with OSU and Minny we know both UM and Duke played the same teams.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 1/9/2013 at 3:12 PM

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  • Braintrust said...

    Is Lewan holding a press conference? I've never seen a press conference where a player decides to stay.

    He apparently likes the spot light

    copemoney0

  • MrWoodson said...

    Louisville is really the only game on that list that stands out. And FWIW they had trouble beating Louisville. It was very close most of the way. Likewise, with OSU. OSU led most of the game at Cameron. In comparison, both Kansas and Illinois handles OSU easily. And we will play Minnesota at the Barn in a week. If we beat OSU at OSU and Minnesota at Minnesota our resume will be as good as Duke's.

    It's not worth arguing until it happens, because I think this argument includes a lot of assumptions on both sides. UM fans are able to envision the situation if they win @OSU and @MINN, whereas I think most MSU fans view it much less likely that you win both, and therefore I think our thoughts may reflect that.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Why? Duke beat OSU at home (barely) and Minnesota on a neutral court. If we beat them both on their home floors, how is that not more impressive? The reality is, we don't really know how good Louisville is. For all we know, they qill wilt in BE play. At least with OSU and Bama we know both UM and Duke played the same teams.

    Just looking at overall resume.. sure if UM wins @OSU and @Minny, those 2 wins would be more impressive than home v OSU and vs. Minny

    So if/when Louisville starts to lose, we can adjust Duke's good wins accordingly.. but at this time on Jan 9- that is a top 5 win on a neutral floor and that trumps anything on UM's schedule to date (including if UM sweeps OSU/Minny next week)

    copemoney0

  • Jandy said...

    It's not worth arguing until it happens, because I think this argument includes a lot of assumptions on both sides. UM fans are able to envision the situation if they win @OSU and @MINN, whereas I think most MSU fans view it much less likely that you win both, and therefore I think our thoughts may reflect that.

    Of course. If we lose the games, the argument is moot.

    MrWoodson

  • Braintrust said...

    Is Lewan holding a press conference? I've never seen a press conference where a player decides to stay.

    Didn't Matt Barkely do it last year? Trey Burke also?

    xxmgobluexx

  • So Denards not even going to try to play QB anymore, huh? Good decision.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Didn't Matt Barkely do it last year? Trey Burke also?

    Yep, Barkley did. I don't remember Trey's, i thought he just let reporters know, not an actual organized press conference, not sure

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Just looking at overall resume.. sure if UM wins @OSU and @Minny, those 2 wins would be more impressive than home v OSU and vs. Minny

    So if/when Louisville starts to lose, we can adjust Duke's good wins accordingly.. but at this time on Jan 9- that is a top 5 win on a neutral floor and that trumps anything on UM's schedule to date (including if UM sweeps OSU/Minny next week)

    Why is Louisville so special? I haven't seen more than about 1 1/2 of their games, but they have only played one clearly top tier team (Duke) and they lost. For all we know, both OSU and Minny are better than Louisville. OSU nearly beat Duke on their home court. Louisville's best win is at home over Missouri. Sorry if I'm not overly impressed.

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  • Braintrust said...

    Is Lewan holding a press conference? I've never seen a press conference where a player decides to stay.

    Matt Barkley

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Why is Louisville so special? I haven't seen more than about 1 1/2 of their games, but they have only played one clearly top tier team (Duke) and they lost. For all we know, both OSU and Minny are better than Louisville. OSU nearly beat Duke on their home court. Louisville's best win is at home over Missouri. Sorry if I'm not overly impressed.

    And UM's best win is at home over NC State..

    What makes UM so special?

    (not trying to argue UM isn't good- but you can't have that logic both ways if you're just looking at best wins)

    Edit: And the Missouri W for Louisville was neutral floor per ESPN

    This post was edited by copemoney0 on 1/9/2013 at 3:29 PM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Why is Louisville so special? I haven't seen more than about 1 1/2 of their games, but they have only played one clearly top tier team (Duke) and they lost. For all we know, both OSU and Minny are better than Louisville. OSU nearly beat Duke on their home court. Louisville's best win is at home over Missouri. Sorry if I'm not overly impressed.

    Are you guys gonna make shirts if Duke loses on Saturday?

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  • copemoney0 said...

    He apparently likes the spot light

    Yea, maybe he can get his girlfriend to write some sappy bullshit open letter to fans about how hard it is to leave and how he's thinking about his family.

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  • Braintrust said...

    Are you guys gonna make shirts if Duke loses on Saturday?

    No but I'd expect you'd make shirts if/when we lose with an exact score and date on it like you did in football.

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  • msucantmakebcs said...

    No but I'd expect you'd make shirts if/when we lose with an exact score and date on it like you did in football.

    When did they do that in football?

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  • copemoney0 said...

    When did they do that in football?

    appalachain state t-shirt

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  • Due51 said...

    Yea, maybe he can get his girlfriend to write some sappy bullshit open letter to fans about how hard it is to leave and how he's thinking about his family.

    Well that sounds interesting, care to elaborate?

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  • msucantmakebcs said...

    appalachain state t-shirt

    the "Michigan Who?" t-shirts? Appalachian State made those... lol

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Why is Louisville so special? I haven't seen more than about 1 1/2 of their games, but they have only played one clearly top tier team (Duke) and they lost. For all we know, both OSU and Minny are better than Louisville. OSU nearly beat Duke on their home court. Louisville's best win is at home over Missouri. Sorry if I'm not overly impressed.

    Louisville is the best team in the country, imho.

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  • Braintrust said...

    Are you guys gonna make shirts if Duke loses on Saturday?

    This is one of the gifts that keeps on giving.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • FWIW, new Scout 300 is out. MSU has 4 guys on the list; Damion Terry, Shane Jones, Jon Reshcke and Dennis Finely.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Braintrust said...

    Are you guys gonna make shirts if Duke loses on Saturday?

    Is this the Wisconsin/MSU thread?

    xxmgobluexx

  • copemoney0 said...

    And UM's best win is at home over NC State..

    What makes UM so special?

    (not trying to argue UM isn't good- but you can't have that logic both ways if you're just looking at best wins)

    Edit: And the Missouri W for Louisville was neutral floor per ESPN

    You keep changing the argument. We are not talking about comparing resumes today. We are talking about comparing resumes if we beat the same two teams you are giving Duke credit for beating - OSU and Minnesota - but we beat them on their home floors. But this is a near pointless discussion anyway. Who cares? Rank Duke wherever you want and UM wherever you want. The season has a long way to go and we have many good teams remaining on our schedule. I'm far more interested in seeing how we do in those games than I am concerned with where some talking head (or you) rank UM on Jan 9.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 1/9/2013 at 3:55 PM

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  • Braintrust said...

    the "Michigan Who?" t-shirts? Appalachian State made those... lol

    I was going to say.. I don't recall MSU ever making shirts over a Michigan loss

    copemoney0

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