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The Official Michigan, MSU Thread (CLOSED)

  • D.Wags said...

    Thing is, if I claimed MSU was going to be great and they turned out to be turds, I've never had a problem looking at it and saying how bad we really are.

    There are some on here who have the ability to lie to themselves and believe the tripe. I don't know if that angers me or makes me jealous.

    I find this is a common trait in most fans. It's certainly not exclusive to Michigan or Michigan State fans.

    jimtaco

  • SpartanRocky said...

    I can't imagine how hilarious this thread will be if UM loses to tOSU and their bowl and MSU wins out, giving both teams the same record in '12.

    It would certainly make this thread entertaining. However, I think most people expected Michigan to go about 8-4. Honestly, Michigan's season has gone about how I expected.

    We got trashed by Alabama.
    Denard had one of his annual blowup games against Notre Dame.
    We lost on the road against a ranked big ten team.

    If we beat Ohio State then this season will have been a pretty successful season when you consider much we lost, how hard our schedule is, and what our quarterback situation has been like.

    jimtaco

  • jimtaco said...

    It would certainly make this thread entertaining. However, I think most people expected Michigan to go about 8-4. Honestly, Michigan's season has gone about how I expected.

    We got trashed by Alabama. Denard had one of his annual blowup games against Notre Dame. We lost on the road against a ranked big ten team.

    If we beat Ohio State then this season will have been a pretty successful season when you consider much we lost, how hard our schedule is, and what our quarterback situation has been like.

    I was more goofing around than anything else. I'd expect UM to beat Iowa and probably lose to tOSU. I'd love for MSU to win out, but that depends on whether they can handle Northwestern's O. I like their chances of winning @Minny regardless, but there's a big difference between 7-5 and 6-6.

    It's been a solid year for UM. I thought both squads were in the 8-4/9-3 range going into the season (I thought MSU would be 9-3 (6-2), UM 8-4 (6-2)). Obviously I vastly underestimated how bad the passing O was going to be for MSU.

    Next year should be very interesting, and the Legends division should be tough again. Northwestern looks like it's going to have a couple solid years with its offense and Minny is on the rise.

    Can't believe how bad Iowa is (and that MSU managed to lose to them at home). They may end up being the cellar-dweller in the division for awhile.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Blue Jays!! flex

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  • jimtaco said...

    It would certainly make this thread entertaining. However, I think most people expected Michigan to go about 8-4. Honestly, Michigan's season has gone about how I expected.

    We got trashed by Alabama.
    Denard had one of his annual blowup games against Notre Dame.
    We lost on the road against a ranked big ten team.

    If we beat Ohio State then this season will have been a pretty successful season when you consider much we lost, how hard our schedule is, and what our quarterback situation has been like.

    I had Michigan going 8-4. Winning on the road against powers such as Notre Dame, Nebraska and tOSU are traditionally tough. Michigan wasn't ready yet to match up with the Bama's of the world either. I like Michigan's schedule next year with those teams playing at Michigan and Penn State being the only traditional power away game.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I had Michigan going 8-4. Winning on the road against powers such as Notre Dame, Nebraska and tOSU are traditionally tough. Michigan wasn't ready yet to match up with the Bama's of the world either. I like Michigan's schedule next year with those teams playing at Michigan and Penn State being the only traditional power away game.

    I still think UM - MSU is a toss-up over the next few years, with the home team having the edge.

    PSU is going to start feeling the sanctions hard next season. They're unable to replace the guys they've lost; that should be a Q for you guys. The odd years are great ones for UM; tOSU and NEB at home.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • So there's 0% chance that UM loses to Iowa, right? What the heck is wrong with that team?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    So there's 0% chance that UM loses to Iowa, right? What the heck is wrong with that team?

    Iowa is one team Michigan seems to always struggle with (at least recently). I don't consider it a lock, although they do suck majorly.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    I was more goofing around than anything else. I'd expect UM to beat Iowa and probably lose to tOSU. I'd love for MSU to win out, but that depends on whether they can handle Northwestern's O. I like their chances of winning @Minny regardless, but there's a big difference between 7-5 and 6-6.

    It's been a solid year for UM. I thought both squads were in the 8-4/9-3 range going into the season (I thought MSU would be 9-3 (6-2), UM 8-4 (6-2)). Obviously I vastly underestimated how bad the passing O was going to be for MSU.

    Next year should be very interesting, and the Legends division should be tough again. Northwestern looks like it's going to have a couple solid years with its offense and Minny is on the rise.

    Can't believe how bad Iowa is (and that MSU managed to lose to them at home). They may end up being the cellar-dweller in the division for awhile.

    As much as it hurts, my head tells me that there is no way we leave Columbus with a victory. They're undefeated, in Urban Meyers first season, with no bowl game, and they're in the shoe. It may be one of the most hostile environments we've seen in college football this year. However, it's the game and anything can happen.

    The strangest thing for me was how un-clutch( yeah, I made that up) your defense was this season. In all of these crucial moments I just assumed your defense would rise to the occasion like they did so many times last year. It was just a weird season for MSU. I truly have no idea what to make of your team this year or in the future.

    I really like what Northwestern is doing. I don't think their defense will ever be very good but they're going to make every game interesting with their spread-option offense. I think Mark has the potential to be the best offensive player in the big ten next year. I think Northwestern and Indiana are heading in the same direction. They probably won't stop you but they're going to give everybody fits when they have the ball.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by jimtaco on 11/14/2012 at 11:00 AM

    jimtaco

  • mriderblue12 said...

    Blue Jays!! flex

    Maimi North. They'll still be awful. Just in a different city.

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  • jimtaco said...

    The strangest thing for me was how un-clutch( yeah, I made that up) your defense was this season. In all of these crucial moments I just assumed your defense would rise to the occasion like they did so many times last year.

    And THAT is why stats are for losers. Always have been. It's so much easier to just WATCH a game. Just watch it. You'll know when a team rocks and when it sucks.

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  • jimtaco said...

    As much as it hurts, my head tells me that there is no way we leave Columbus with a victory. They're undefeated, in Urban Meyers first season, with no bowl game, and they're in the shoe. It may be one of the most hostile environments we've seen in college football this year. However, it's the game and anything can happen.

    The strangest thing for me was how un-clutch( yeah, I made that up) your defense was this season. In all of these crucial moments I just assumed your defense would rise to the occasion like they did so many times last year. It was just a weird season for MSU. I truly have no idea what to make of your team this year or in the future.

    I really like what Northwestern is doing. I don't think their defense will ever be very good but they're going to make every game interesting with their spread-option offense. I think Mark has the potential to be the best offensive player in the big ten next year. I think Northwestern and Indiana are heading in the same direction. They probably won't stop you but they're going to give everybody fits when they have the ball.

    A poor offense makes things difficult for the defense. If you can't consistently sustain drives and convert 3rd downs, your defense is eventually going to suffer. Just ask Michigan 2008-2010.

    State's OFFENSIVE rankings amongst the rest of the Big 10.
    PPG - 11th
    YdsPG - 9th
    Rush Yards - 8th
    3rd down % - 7th

    The offense puts too much pressure on the defense over the course of a season when it performs like that.

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    Due51

  • Due51 said...

    A poor offense makes things difficult for the defense. If you can't consistently sustain drives and convert 3rd downs, your defense is eventually going to suffer. Just ask Michigan 2008-2010.

    State's OFFENSIVE rankings amongst the rest of the Big 10.
    PPG - 11th
    YdsPG - 9th
    Rush Yards - 8th
    3rd down % - 7th

    The offense puts too much pressure on the defense over the course of a season when it performs like that.

    While this is true look at three games where the defense holds we win and we're 8-2 and delusional about our team:

    Iowas tying score
    Michigans winning score
    Nebraskas winning score

    They stand and diver we might be legends leaders. They didn't.

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  • D.Wags said...

    Maimi North. They'll still be awful. Just in a different city.

    Lol not a chance.

    Reyes is exactly the type of hitter we needed in our already pretty stacked lineup. Table setter at the top of the lineup with speed.

    Our staff went from one of the worst to potentially one of the best in a day.

    Plus Jays still have trade chips and money to spend.

    We will be in the playoffs next year for sure.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Blue Jays!! flex

    Going out of business sale in Miami...EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!

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    steveschneider

  • Good catfight last night. Calipari accuses Duke of flopping, Coach Kay should of fired back and accused Cal of paying players.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Going out of business sale in Miami...EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!

    Thanks Miami!

    My social media was going fvcking nuts yesterday. Never seen a city so universally happy like it was yesterday.

    I'm wearing my Jays hat around today; and let's just say I'm not the only one.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Good catfight last night. Calipari accuses Duke of flopping, Coach Kay should of fired back and accused Cal of paying players.

    Both Coaches are spot on I'd say.

    Coach K looks at a ref and the other team gets a technical. Embarrassing how Duke gets the benefit of the whistles in every game, it's disgusting.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Lol not a chance.

    Reyes is exactly the type of hitter we needed in our already pretty stacked lineup. Table setter at the top of the lineup with speed.

    Our staff went from one of the worst to potentially one of the best in a day.

    Plus Jays still have trade chips and money to spend.

    We will be in the playoffs next year for sure.

    Tigers sign Torii Hunter. Fantastic pickup for the Tigers.

    Re: your trade, this quote sums it up best...

    "This may work out to be the equivalent or better of the 10-player Doug Gilmour deal two decades ago"

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  • steveschneider said...

    Tigers sign Torii Hunter. Fantastic pickup for the Tigers.

    Re: your trade, this quote sums it up best...

    "This may work out to be the equivalent or better of the 10-player Doug Gilmour deal two decades ago"

    Hunter is definitely a nice pickup for you guys.

    Jays fans are just dying for some meaningful baseball in this city. If we field a competitive team the Rogers Centre will start to be filled like it used to during the Jays glory days.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Both Coaches are spot on I'd say.

    Coach K looks at a ref and the other team gets a technical. Embarrassing how Duke gets the benefit of the whistles in every game, it's disgusting.

    You look at the Miami vs OKC series Battier was hustling in front of players and drawing the charge at several crucial points in the series.

    I do agree that Duke flops, but they play hard defense and their players are great at hustling over and setting up for the charge. There are some flops, but a lot of those are great plays as well.

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  • steveschneider said...

    You look at the Miami vs OKC series Battier was hustling in front of players and drawing the charge at several crucial points in the series.

    I do agree that Duke flops, but they play hard defense and their players are great at hustling over and setting up for the charge. There are some flops, but a lot of those are great plays as well.

    I don't think Duke flops as much as the refs just make calls in their favor. It really is almost to a comical level.

    Coach K irritates the crap out of me, but at least he isn't a scumbag like Cal.

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  • Jandy said...

    I don't think Duke flops as much as the refs just make calls in their favor. It really is almost to a comical level.

    Coach K irritates the crap out of me, but at least he isn't a scumbag like Cal.

    Spot on Jandy.

    Although I hate Rat Face more than any coach anywhere.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Iowa is one team Michigan seems to always struggle with (at least recently). I don't consider it a lock, although they do suck majorly.

    I mean, you guys could very well hold them under 100 yards passing. I thought MSU's passing attack is anemic, good lord . . .

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Due51 said...

    A poor offense makes things difficult for the defense. If you can't consistently sustain drives and convert 3rd downs, your defense is eventually going to suffer. Just ask Michigan 2008-2010.

    State's OFFENSIVE rankings amongst the rest of the Big 10. PPG - 11th YdsPG - 9th Rush Yards - 8th 3rd down % - 7th

    The offense puts too much pressure on the defense over the course of a season when it performs like that.

    What's crazy is that MSU is 8th in TOP, despite being poor at converting 3rd downs on offense. D is definitely playing up to snuff statistically.

    I can't believe that MSU is 108th in scoring O and still not the worst offensive power in the conference lol.

    A great D can make up for a mediocre O. It can't make up for a horrific O.

    MSU is pretty much 1/3 of a team this year. Great D, poor O, poor special teams. You can win quite a few games if you're good in 2 of those 3 areas. Ain't going to happen if just 1 is working.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky