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  • steveschneider said...

    Good catfight last night. Calipari accuses Duke of flopping, Coach Kay should of fired back and accused Cal of paying players.

    I heard Izzo took a shot at Cal

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Where would that number be if Adams wasn't giving up big plays. Some believe the hype, others watched and saw him for what he was.

    Who is in the pipeline for next year?

    Trae Waynes or Ezra Robinson. Waynes would be a RS Soph and Robinson a RS FR. Robinson was one of those guys who you hear "almost had his RS pulled" because of his work on the scout team, blah blah blah. #3 guy this year was/is Mitchell White, but he was needed some at S so right now I'd say it's Waynes.

    Only thing I know about those guys is that they're relatively tall; Waynes is 6'1 and Robinson around the same size.

    CB is a huge question mark if Dennard leaves, and maybe even if he stays. MSU needs 2 good CBs to run their defense effectively.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Where would that number be if Adams wasn't giving up big plays. Some believe the hype, others watched and saw him for what he was.

    Who is in the pipeline for next year?

    Trae Waynes is the one on the depth chart, but we've heard very very good things about Ezra Robinson

    This post was edited by Braintrust on 11/14/2012 at 3:07 PM

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Trae Waynes or Ezra Robinson. Waynes would be a RS Soph and Robinson a RS FR. Robinson was one of those guys who you hear "almost had his RS pulled" because of his work on the scout team, blah blah blah. #3 guy this year was/is Mitchell White, but he was needed some at S so right now I'd say it's Waynes.

    Only thing I know about those guys is that they're relatively tall; Waynes is 6'1 and Robinson around the same size.

    CB is a huge question mark if Dennard leaves, and maybe even if he stays. MSU needs 2 good CBs to run their defense effectively.

    White looked lost out there, from what I remember.

    DBs is Dantonio's strength right? If that is the case, then I would imagine MSU will always have strong DB play similar to how it looks like Michigan will have strong dline play with Hoke.

    xxmgobluexx

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Trae Waynes or Ezra Robinson. Waynes would be a RS Soph and Robinson a RS FR. Robinson was one of those guys who you hear "almost had his RS pulled" because of his work on the scout team, blah blah blah. #3 guy this year was/is Mitchell White, but he was needed some at S so right now I'd say it's Waynes.

    Only thing I know about those guys is that they're relatively tall; Waynes is 6'1 and Robinson around the same size.

    CB is a huge question mark if Dennard leaves, and maybe even if he stays. MSU needs 2 good CBs to run their defense effectively.

    Do you think Demetrius Cox ends up changing positions to SS or maybe CB? He's got a junior in Drummond ahead of him, and a RS Freshman in RJ, who are both making plays and playing extremely well at FS

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  • steveschneider said...

    I remember watching him fill in while Rucker was in Jail (don't get started on the trolling).

    The request would mean something if you adhered to it yourself. Not saying, just saying.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    The request would mean something if you adhered to it yourself. Not saying, just saying.

    I never troll and at this point that topic is a dead horse beaten to a pulp.

    This post was edited by steveschneider on 11/14/2012 at 3:22 PM

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  • steveschneider said...

    I never troll and at this point that topic is a dead horse beaten to a pulp.

    roflmao

    Your story Steve.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    White looked lost out there, from what I remember.

    DBs is Dantonio's strength right? If that is the case, then I would imagine MSU will always have strong DB play similar to how it looks like Michigan will have strong dline play with Hoke.

    Yea, they've shown the ability to replace members of the secondary with good success the last few years.

    White is someone I never want to see on the field until MSU had a 5 TD lead with 5 minutes to go.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Due51 said...

    I fully expect State's offense to improve in the passing game next season, but there are no guarantees. There's plenty of examples of guys who did NOT improve that much from their first to second year. There are also guys who have regressed, for one reason or another.

    It'll be interesting to see who returns next season for mSu AND Michigan.

    It does look a bit better now, but those kids need to work their ass off this off season. They need to start trusting each other too

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  • steveschneider said...

    Good catfight last night. Calipari accuses Duke of flopping, Coach Kay should of fired back and accused Cal of paying players.

    Just saw this in an ESPN article, subtle shot by coach K?

    "We took charges. There's a difference between a charge and a flop,'' he said. "Besides, we don't make money. We can't be fined.''

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  • SpartanRocky

    CB is a huge question mark if Dennard leaves, and maybe even if he stays. MSU needs 2 good CBs to run their defense effectively.

    That's the point rocky, any non casual observer knows narduzzi's defense starts with corners. For anyone to think Adams isn't one of the top cb's in the conference is crazy. That doesn't mean NFL but he is an exceptional college cb. You're right though, when he makes a mistake, it's like a wart on your nose. you can't miss it. If narduzzi goes two like many d's do in our conference those three our four bad plays don't happen during a year. NFL scouts notice how much he's in one.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Yea, they've shown the ability to replace members of the secondary with good success the last few years.

    White is someone I never want to see on the field until MSU had a 5 TD lead with 5 minutes to go.

    MSU should have a great D, if the DTs develop. Taiwan Jones has looked solid replacing Norman. Whoever comes in for Adams can't be worse than giving up a TD every other game. Big difference between getting beat for a completion and giving up 6. Is one of the safeties a senior?

    There is no chance of Bullough and Allen leaving early is there? I wouldn't think so, Bullough is a Spartan for life and Allen seems a little on the small side for the NFL*.

    *I don't agree with that sediment though, players are players, regardless of size. NFL likes their #'s though.

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  • D.Wags said...

    If narduzzi goes two like many d's do in our conference those three our four bad plays don't happen during a year.

    Per tRCMB, J5 being out there calls for at least three, maybe four. Just trust them.

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  • Braintrust said...

    Just saw this in an ESPN article, subtle shot by coach K?

    "We took charges. There's a difference between a charge and a flop,'' he said. "Besides, we don't make money. We can't be fined.''

    Lets face it Laettner's shot still stings and everytime Kentucky plays them they are going to hear about it.

    Just re-watched...that has to be the greatest finish to a cbb game ever. Unbelievable.

    This post was edited by steveschneider on 11/14/2012 at 5:05 PM

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    Kentucky v Duke: Hill Pass, Laettner Jumper

    With 2.1 seconds remaining in overtime, Duke trailed 103-102. Grant Hill threw a pass the length of the court to Christian Laettner, who dribbled once, turned, and hit a jumper as time expired for the 104-103 win. Brought to you by CBS SportsLine and CSTV.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/AY-iq58_oz4
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  • Jandy said...

    Per tRCMB, J5 being out there calls for at least three, maybe four. Just trust them.

    lol. Idiots are idiots. Adams is playing there for a reason. Jesus, I read that shut on the RCMB and I think about Woodson and the packers. Guy was a great cb before the switch but he'd get beat now and then, only the morons watch 3 or 4 plays during the season or see a guy give up a first down or two during a game and conclude an all conference cb isn't good. We have to read that tripe all the time from that board. Same idiots who said we suck in basketball after one game in Germany.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    MSU should have a great D, if the DTs develop. Taiwan Jones has looked solid replacing Norman. Whoever comes in for Adams can't be worse than giving up a TD every other game. Big difference between getting beat for a completion and giving up 6. Is one of the safeties a senior?

    There is no chance of Bullough and Allen leaving early is there? I wouldn't think so, Bullough is a Spartan for life and Allen seems a little on the small side for the NFL*.

    *I don't agree with that sediment though, players are players, regardless of size. NFL likes their #'s though.

    Ezra Robinson is my bet to replace Adams, and it will be a drop off.

    I anticipate Peko starting at DT next year, probably next to Kittredge. Depth will be quite unproven at DT, most likely.

    Bullough and Denicos will be back, and the safeties as well.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Lets face it Laettner's shot still stings and everytime Kentucky plays them they are going to hear about it.

    Just re-watched...that has to be the greatest finish to a cbb game ever. Unbelievable.

    I was in a suite at the palace watching the hs state finals when his shot went in. Still remember where I was. Unbelievable

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  • steveschneider said...

    Lets face it Laettner's shot still stings and everytime Kentucky plays them they are going to hear about it.

    Just re-watched...that has to be the greatest finish to a cbb game ever. Unbelievable.

    I remember watching that shot. I was at a wrestling tournament and had snuck into a classroom to watch the end of the game. Amazing finish.

    xxmgobluexx

  • D.Wags said...

    I was in a suite at the palace watching the hs state finals when his shot went in. Still remember where I was. Unbelievable

    I remember it well too, they replayed that thing over and over.

    That Duke team was a lot of fun to watch. I loved Bobby Hurley, Laettner and Grant HIll. I remember Laettner vs. Shaq and Laettner out played him.

    Great vid, first minute shows some great Laettner vs. Shaq plays.

    This post was edited by steveschneider on 11/14/2012 at 5:28 PM

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    Duke vs lsu 91 & 92

    duke vs shaq.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/cXh_86J0QPk
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  • Jandy said...

    Ezra Robinson is my bet to replace Adams, and it will be a drop off.

    I anticipate Peko starting at DT next year, probably next to Kittredge. Depth will be quite unproven at DT, most likely.

    Bullough and Denicos will be back, and the safeties as well.

    Man, MSU should be real good on D. Almost everybody back and potential upgrades at the positions where players are leaving.

    Big games will be holding serve at home vs Michigan and stealing one from Nebraska in Lincoln.

    xxmgobluexx

  • steveschneider said...

    I remember it well too, they replayed that thing over and over.

    That Duke team was a lot of fun to watch. I loved Bobby Hurley, Laettner and Grant HIll. I remember Laettner vs. Shaq and Laettner out played him.

    That Duke team was something else. Laettner and Hurley recieved the hype, but I remember Hill the most from that team. Frigging stud.

    xxmgobluexx

  • Jandy said...

    Ezra Robinson is my bet to replace Adams, and it will be a drop off.

    It will change all coverage packages and blitz schemes. Run and pass. It's going to be bigger then many think

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  • steveschneider said...

    I remember it well too, they replayed that thing over and over.

    That Duke team was a lot of fun to watch. I loved Bobby Hurley, Laettner and Grant HIll. I remember Laettner vs. Shaq and Laettner out played him.

    Solid team. Back when I could still tolerate duke. Last night laetner said they tried that exact play against Wake a couple weeks earlier and when hill threw it, the ball drifted so far right it took him out of bounds so they practiced everyday in practice. Things like that aren't all luck.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Lets face it Laettner's shot still stings and everytime Kentucky plays them they are going to hear about it.

    Just re-watched...that has to be the greatest finish to a cbb game ever. Unbelievable.

    See that Kentucky fan wearing that "I still hate Laettner" t-shirt? lol

    edit: i meant kentucky lol

    This post was edited by Braintrust on 11/14/2012 at 5:45 PM

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