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The Official Michigan, MSU Thread (CLOSED)

  • Braintrust said...

    Does Michigan have "premium" and non premium games? Was MSU the only premium one?

    IIRC they were all the same price this year. Maybe UMass was cheaper, but I think all the B10 games and AF were the same ... $75 for my seats.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    IIRC they were all the same price this year. Maybe UMass was cheaper, but I think all the B10 games and AF were the same ... $75 for my seats.

    Technically, all season tickets are $65 each, although the face value fluctuated between $75-$95.

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  • Braintrust said...

    msucan'tmakebcs just had an awesome idea for TWO night games in one year, i hope Brandon invents that soon!!

    At least we do it right. The crowd was so much louder and more spirited at UTL than at the MSU Wisconsin night game.

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  • Harry Callahan said...

    Like Michigan's typical teams?

    or MSU's typical football teams?

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  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    or MSU's typical football teams?

    Speaking of football. Why is it that UM has only been able to win 1 co-championship in 60 some odd years of football? Regional power? I think that seems fitting. UM is one of the best football teams with states that border the Great Lakes.

    Harry Callahan

  • Due51 said...

    Technically, all season tickets are $65 each, although the face value fluctuated between $75-$95.

    I just looked at some of my stubs. UMass and AF were $75. So was NW. MSU was $95.

    MrWoodson

  • Harry Callahan said...

    Speaking of football. Why is it that UM has only been able to win 1 co-championship in 60 some odd years of football? Regional power? I think that seems fitting. UM is one of the best football teams with states that border the Great Lakes.

    Aren't you being hypocritical. MSU wasn't won a national championship in 50 some years. At least ours came 15 years ago.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Greg Garmon gone from Iowa???

    He gone.

    Just ridiculous. Something weird's going on in that program.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • Draymond Green doing good things in the NBA!

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  • Braintrust said...

    Draymond Green doing good things in the NBA!

    Awesome.

    He didn't back down from Lebron either, which was pretty great too.

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  • It's a good thing Aaron Craft is such a good defender, because his offensive production is weak.

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  • Sooooooooo, is Iowa done for next year? They lose their QB, their best DBs, lost their most promising RB, their #1 WR graduated and went 4-8. What the heck happened to that program?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Sooooooooo, is Iowa done for next year? They lose their QB, their best DBs, lost their most promising RB, their #1 WR graduated and went 4-8. What the heck happened to that program?

    I'm shocked Ferentz wasn't on the hot seat this year.

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  • steveschneider said...

    I'm shocked Ferentz wasn't on the hot seat this year.

    What is his buyout?

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  • Braintrust said...

    Draymond Green doing good things in the NBA!

    He got high praise from Lebron after the game. Definitely off to a great start in the NBA.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    What is his buyout?

    I don't know, but in other big time programs he would be toast.

    Not trying to start an SEC vs. B10 fight again, but is the fact that Fernetz is still comfortably employed at Iowa a sign that the B10 is behind? Especially after Auburn just ousted Chizik?

    Looks to me like Iowa is only heading further down and it's a shame because that school just a few years ago was known for the strong defensive line. They were pretty match the yen to wisconsins yang in the big ten.

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  • steveschneider said...

    I don't know, but in other big time programs he would be toast.

    Not trying to start an SEC vs. B10 fight again, but is the fact that Fernetz is still comfortably employed at Iowa a sign that the B10 is behind? Especially after Auburn just ousted Chizik?

    Looks to me like Iowa is only heading further down and it's a shame because that school just a few years ago was known for the strong defensive line. They were pretty match the yen to wisconsins yang in the big ten.

    I disagree; in other big time programs he wouldn't ever have the buyout that he does.

    IIRC, Ferentz's buyout is so large that it would be fiscally crippling for Iowa to pursue it. They're better off crossing their fingers and sitting with Ferentz for a couple more years than paying that absurdly high amount it would cost to have him gone.

    I have to agree with what has been said before that you can't have it both ways. You say the B1G needs to spend more money to attract better coaches. Iowa does exactly that, spending HOARDS of cash to bring in Ferentz. Problem is, they had to promise him so much money to bring him in and/or sign him to an extension that they are near broke if they have to fire him.

    I agree that the B1G needs to make some significant moves to catch back up to the SEC, I just disagree that this is an example of that.

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  • Jandy said...

    I disagree; in other big time programs he wouldn't ever have the buyout that he does.

    IIRC, Ferentz's buyout is so large that it would be fiscally crippling for Iowa to pursue it. They're better off crossing their fingers and sitting with Ferentz for a couple more years than paying that absurdly high amount it would cost to have him gone.

    I have to agree with what has been said before that you can't have it both ways. You say the B1G needs to spend more money to attract better coaches. Iowa does exactly that, spending HOARDS of cash to bring in Ferentz. Problem is, they had to promise him so much money to bring him in and/or sign him to an extension that they are near broke if they have to fire him.

    I agree that the B1G needs to make some significant moves to catch back up to the SEC, I just disagree that this is an example of that.

    That's why I asked about the buyout, I had heard in the past that it is a huge amount. He deserved the raises when he received them, but has underperformed since.

    Good point on the rest also.

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  • steveschneider said...

    I don't know, but in other big time programs he would be toast.

    Not trying to start an SEC vs. B10 fight again, but is the fact that Fernetz is still comfortably employed at Iowa a sign that the B10 is behind? Especially after Auburn just ousted Chizik?

    Looks to me like Iowa is only heading further down and it's a shame because that school just a few years ago was known for the strong defensive line. They were pretty match the yen to wisconsins yang in the big ten.

    Yes The SEC model is so much better. Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Kentucky, Vanderbilt... They've all gone through a number of coaches an look at their overwhelming success. Hell, AU won a national title 2 years ago and just fired their coach.

    SMH. Steve, Bama an LSU went through a LOT of coaches before they landed on Saban and Miles. Bama's HC's office had a revolving door.

    It's easy to look at Saban and say "Bama knows what they're doing". Well no kidding. It took a lot of years and other coaches to finally get to him.

    This post was edited by Due51 on 12/13/2012 at 10:12 AM

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Good point on the rest also.

    Grazie.

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  • Jandy said...

    I disagree; in other big time programs he wouldn't ever have the buyout that he does.

    IIRC, Ferentz's buyout is so large that it would be fiscally crippling for Iowa to pursue it. They're better off crossing their fingers and sitting with Ferentz for a couple more years than paying that absurdly high amount it would cost to have him gone.

    I have to agree with what has been said before that you can't have it both ways. You say the B1G needs to spend more money to attract better coaches. Iowa does exactly that, spending HOARDS of cash to bring in Ferentz. Problem is, they had to promise him so much money to bring him in and/or sign him to an extension that they are near broke if they have to fire him.

    I agree that the B1G needs to make some significant moves to catch back up to the SEC, I just disagree that this is an example of that.

    solid post...

    Seems like there's more incentive to fail than to perform given the structure of his buyout.

    "So unless Iowa wants to pay the equivalent of a $3 million annual penalty for firing Ferentz for the rest of the decade (and this is a pretty young decade), Ferentz is there to stay in Iowa City."

    For better or for worse, Iowa has locked their selves in with Ferentz for quite some time.

    This post was edited by steveschneider on 12/13/2012 at 10:13 AM

    Iowa Football: Kirk Ferentz Has the Worst Contract in All of College Football | Bleacher Report

    32-31. Tell any Iowa fan that score this week and they'll fly into a blind rage, and it's easy to understand why—that was the score by which lowly Central Michigan beat the ...

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  • Due51 said...

    Yes The SEC model is so much better. Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Kentucky, Vanderbilt... They've all gone through a number of coaches an look at their overwhelming success. Hell, AU won a national title 2 years ago and just fired their coach.

    SMH. Steve, Bama an LSU went through a LOT of coaches before they landed on Saban and Miles. Bama's HC's office had a revolving door.

    It's easy to look at Saban and say "Bama knows what they're doing". Well no kidding. It took a lot of years and other coaches to finally get to him.

    Oh boy, going to be a rough day ITT today...

    Here we go, bottoms up boys.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    That's why I asked about the buyout, I had heard in the past that it is a huge amount. He deserved the raises when he received them, but has underperformed since.

    Good point on the rest also.

    Jandy, had a great post for sure. Check out the Bleacherreport link I found. Pretty much outlines why Ferentz has the worst contract in CFB.

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  • steveschneider said...

    "So unless Iowa wants to pay the equivalent of a $3 million annual penalty for firing Ferentz for the rest of the decade (and this is a pretty young decade), Ferentz is there to stay in Iowa City."

    Holy shit, I didn't realize it was THAT bad.

    In order to fire Ferentz and hire a suitable replacement, Iowa would have to shell out approximately $4.5-$6 million per year on their head coaching position.

    Oh me oh my.

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