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  • Hoffelcopter said...

    Doesn't USC only have 75 schollie players right now? So all college teams, don't have the same amount of players?

    Lol

    OK. My point was BCS said issues would occur because UM is a big time program. Just didn't know what that meant since almost all teams have the same amount of players

    copemoney0

  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    I wasn't saying military academies were big time. I just said that it's a problem at all big time universities and even small schools and laces that have strict guidelines like the Army, the Navy, the Air Force sometimes have to boot people off the squad.

    So you are saying UM has the same standards for issues as the academies do?

    copemoney0

  • michagain said...

    Well done by cousins today getting the W, nice #'s too 330ish 2tds and a pick, 22 on ground

    My wife says to me: "I knew he would do great today because he threw it right to our guys last year, not like that guy we have this year".

    lol

    She's a football genius.

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  • michagain said...

    Well done by cousins today getting the W, nice #'s too 330ish 2tds and a pick, 22 on ground

    My wife says to me: "I knew he would do great today because he threw it right to our guys last year, not like that guy we have this year".

    lol

    She's a football genius.

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    DWags

  • Damn Tom Brady is good. Just what was Carr thinking? Mind you, I always thought Carr to be a very good coach.

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  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    It depends on how big time you are. One tier is the Michigans, the Alabamas, the Floridas. Then you have the MSUs, the Wisconsins, the Iowas, then you have the CMUs, the EMUs, the WMUs.

    Michigans and Alabamas? Hahahaha. Oh man, that's good. Alabama is a program that might win their 3rd NC in 4 years and Michigan fans think they're on the same level as Alabama. Wow. Michigan is a great regional program. 3rd or 4th best program in the Big Ten, but they're no Alabama. Come on now. Alabama is probably the best program of all time.

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  • michagain said...

    Well done by cousins today getting the W, nice #'s too 330ish 2tds and a pick, 22 on ground

    Yea, today was pretty much an audition for the rest of the league. Need a QB? Call Washington.

    Really, this could not have gone any better for the 'Skins. They get the W, rest their star QB an were able to showcase KC to the rest of the league. They're going to get at least a 2nd rounder for KC now, maybe a 2nd and a 4th. Cousins should get the chance to start for some team (cough* Cardinals, Bills, Raiders, Jags . . . . . )

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Yea, today was pretty much an audition for the rest of the league. Need a QB? Call Washington.

    Really, this could not have gone any better for the 'Skins. They get the W, rest their star QB an were able to showcase KC to the rest of the league. They're going to get at least a 2nd rounder for KC now, maybe a 2nd and a 4th. Cousins should get the chance to start for some team (cough* Cardinals, Bills, Raiders, Jags . . . . . )

    Why would a team with a running QB (one who is out with a knee injury in his rookie year) want to trade away its only decent backup QB? My guess is KC isn't going anywhere for at least 2-3 years.

    MrWoodson ●

  • MrWoodson said...

    Why would a team with a running QB (one who is out with a knee injury in his rookie year) want to trade away its only decent backup QB? My guess is KC isn't going anywhere for at least 2-3 years.

    Because the skins need draft picks.

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  • Braintrust said...

    Because the skins need draft picks.

    Using that logic, they should trade RGIII. They can get much more for him than KC.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Using that logic, they should trade RGIII. They can get much more for him than KC.

    Well that logic is airtight. Except that Kirk is going to sit on the bench for the majority of his time in Washington, and the redskins sacrificed their draft future to get rg3

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  • Braintrust said...

    Well that logic is airtight. Except that Kirk is going to sit on the bench for the majority of his time in Washington, and the redskins sacrificed their draft future to get rg3

    QBs get hurt. RGIII already is hurt. KC appears to be a good backup QB, i.e. one who can keep the team competitive when RGIII is out. And he's relatively cheap. If Washington trades him, they have to replace him. And a proven backup QB in free agency will cost them more even assuming they can find one. I don't see how getting an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick will cover what they would be losing by trading Cousins.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 12/17/2012 at 12:48 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    QBs get hurt. RGIII already is hurt. KC appears to be a good backup QB, i.e. one who can keep the team competitive when RGIII is out. And he's relatively cheap. If Washington trades him, they have to replace him. And a proven backup QB in free agency will cost them more even assuming they can find one. I don't see how getting an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick will cover what they would be losing by trading Cousins.

    Only 1 QB can play at a time. A #2 QB like KC is a luxury in the league, and Washington has holes to fill.

    My guess is that someone makes the 'Skins an offer they can't refuse, like a 2nd and a 3rd rounder in next year's draft. Considering they spent a 4th rounder on KC, that's a hell of a return on an investment, and those 2 picks could help 2 other areas of the team. Looks like RGIII is legit as an NFL QB; that spot's locked up for the next decade +.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Looking at the recruits in the state of Michigan, with the committment of Hill and Dawson, Michigan has 7 or the top 10 recruits according to 247.
    1. Shane Morris, QB
    2. David Dawson, OG
    4. Delano Hill, S
    6. Jourdan Lewis, CB
    7. Wyatt Shallman, RB
    9. C'sonte York, WR
    10. Khalid Hill, TE

    The other 3 in the top 10,

    3. Steve Elmer, OT (ND)
    5. Jon Reschke, LB (MSU)
    8. Cameron Dillard, OG (Florida)

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Looking at the recruits in the state of Michigan, with the committment of Hill and Dawson, Michigan has 7 or the top 10 recruits according to 247.
    1. Shane Morris, QB
    2. David Dawson, OG
    4. Delano Hill, S
    6. Jourdan Lewis, CB
    7. Wyatt Shallman, RB
    9. C'sonte York, WR
    10. Khalid Hill, TE

    The other 3 in the top 10,

    3. Steve Elmer, OT (ND)
    5. Jon Reschke, LB (MSU)
    8. Cameron Dillard, OG (Florida)

    Looking at the composite, Michigan has,

    1. Shane Morris
    2. David Dawson
    3. Jourdan Lewis
    6. Wyatt Shallman
    7. Delano Hill
    York, Hill, and Jones (WR) come in at 11, 12, and 13.

    The remainder of the top 10 for the composite is,
    4. Steve Elmer
    5. Jon Reschke
    8. Riley Norman, OT (track scholarship to MSU)
    9. Kenton Gibbs, DT (was committed to Illini, but decommitted)
    10. Cameron Dillard

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Looking at the composite, Michigan has,

    1. Shane Morris 2. David Dawson 3. Jourdan Lewis 6. Wyatt Shallman 7. Delano Hill York, Hill, and Jones (WR) come in at 11, 12, and 13.

    The remainder of the top 10 for the composite is, 4. Steve Elmer 5. Jon Reschke 8. Riley Norman, OT (track scholarship to MSU) 9. Kenton Gibbs, DT (was committed to Illini, but decommitted) 10. Cameron Dillard

    Yea, just checked Rivals; Norman has been removed from the list of football recruits.

    Rivals has MSU with 3 of the top 10 (#6 Reschke, #8 Finely, #10 Holmes). Reschke is going to move up to #4 on Rivals (#148 overall), ahead of Dawson (#151) and behind Lewis (#147).

    Great haul for UM.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Only 1 QB can play at a time. A #2 QB like KC is a luxury in the league, and Washington has holes to fill.

    My guess is that someone makes the 'Skins an offer they can't refuse, like a 2nd and a 3rd rounder in next year's draft. Considering they spent a 4th rounder on KC, that's a hell of a return on an investment, and those 2 picks could help 2 other areas of the team. Looks like RGIII is legit as an NFL QB; that spot's locked up for the next decade +.

    Ii love cousins. I think he's classy and a winner and gives 100% everytime out. However he had a good game against Cleveland. Just like Flynn did against the lions last year. Let's not get too excited. I was waiting for Gardner to play a decent team before I judged him also and even though OSU minus one 75 yard throw and run seems to me what I suspected, there is still not enough evidence to speak to any of those QB's.

    One game does not make Cousins career.

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  • D.Wags said...

    Ii love cousins. I think he's classy and a winner and gives 100% everytime out. However he had a good game against Cleveland. Just like Flynn did against the lions last year. Let's not get too excited. I was waiting for Gardner to play a decent team before I judged him also and even though OSU minus one 75 yard throw and run seems to me what I suspected, there is still not enough evidence to speak to any of those QB's.

    One game does not make Cousins career.

    We're talking NFL GMs here. They don't seem to need to see much lol.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Yea, just checked Rivals; Norman has been removed from the list of football recruits.

    Rivals has MSU with 3 of the top 10 (#6 Reschke, #8 Finely, #10 Holmes). Reschke is going to move up to #4 on Rivals (#148 overall), ahead of Dawson (#151) and behind Lewis (#147).

    Great haul for UM.

    This is MSU's 2nd highest average star per recruit class under Dantonio (3.13).. UM continues to pull in talent- MSU's also upgrading and being very consistent with its talent

    copemoney0

  • SpartanRocky said...

    We're talking NFL GMs here. They don't seem to need to see much lol.

    Yep. "mr. Flynn the bank is calling your money is bursting out of our safe again. Since you're not actually playing Sunday maybe you could go there and burn some of it".

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  • copemoney0 said...

    This is MSU's 2nd highest average star per recruit class under Dantonio (3.13)..

    NC NC NC panic

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  • D.Wags said...

    NC NC NC panic

    roflmao

    I'd be satisfied with a Rose Bowl

    copemoney0

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Yea, just checked Rivals; Norman has been removed from the list of football recruits.

    Rivals has MSU with 3 of the top 10 (#6 Reschke, #8 Finely, #10 Holmes). Reschke is going to move up to #4 on Rivals (#148 overall), ahead of Dawson (#151) and behind Lewis (#147).

    Great haul for UM.

    MSU looks to have a solid class coming in. I didn't realize how Hoke dominated the state again though. Dawson and Hill really changed how it looks. MSU has a great start to the 2014 class, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

    Who do you think MSU closes out with for the 2013 class?

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    MSU looks to have a solid class coming in. I didn't realize how Hoke dominated the state again though. Dawson and Hill really changed how it looks. MSU has a great start to the 2014 class, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

    Who do you think MSU closes out with for the 2013 class?

    JUCO DT Kyle Peko for sure. I think we might be able to flip DE Alec James (Wisc commit, MSU was his #2 and visited several times). FL ATH Justin Williams is a possibility too.

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    Braintrust

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    MSU looks to have a solid class coming in. I didn't realize how Hoke dominated the state again though. Dawson and Hill really changed how it looks. MSU has a great start to the 2014 class, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

    Who do you think MSU closes out with for the 2013 class?

    DT Peko seems almost for sure.

    Would love to see DE Alec James (Wisky verbal) as he's now taking all 5 of his OV's after the Wisky assistants left

    Think MSU only has 2-3 schollie's left

    copemoney0

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