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The Official Michigan, MSU Thread (CLOSED)

  • MrWoodson said...

    Latest AP Poll ...

    1. Duke (62) 2. Michigan (3)3. Syracuse 4. Arizona 5. Louisville 6. Indiana 7. Ohio State8. Florida 9. Kansas 10. Illinois11. Cincinnati 12. Missouri 13. Minnesota14. Missouri 15. Georgetown 16. New Mexico 17. Creighton 18. San Diego State 19. Butler 20. Michigan State21. UNLV 22. Notre Dame 23. North Carolina 24. Oklahoma State 25. North Carolina State

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

    B1G is stacked flex

    copemoney0

  • RabidWolverine said...

    Illinois vs Missouri on the 22nd is going to be an awesome game.

    I haven't seen Missouri play yet, but Brandon Paul has been a beast for Illinois so far this year. If he continues, he has a real shot at being a top 15 draft pick.

    MrWoodson

  • copemoney0 said...

    B1G is stacked flex

    Gonna be a bloodbath.

    MrWoodson

  • My God the Big10 conference play is going to be a blood bath. Has the B1G ever been this stacked?

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    MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13

    Due51

  • Due51 said...

    My God the Big10 conference play is going to be a blood bath. Has the B1G ever been this stacked?

    Probably not since the late 80s.

    MrWoodson

  • Due51 said...

    My God the Big10 conference play is going to be a blood bath. Has the B1G ever been this stacked?

    Hopefully the conference can represent and bring home a title.. (sound a little like SEC Football fan cyclops)

    copemoney0

  • copemoney0 said...

    Hopefully the conference can represent and bring home a title.. (sound a little like SEC Football fan cyclops)

    All B10 final four. flex

    MrWoodson

  • SpartanRocky said...

    I think I said last summer than UM can pin OL issues in '13-'14 on RichRod, should you guys struggle up front. You simply cannot make up for only having 1 OL recruit still in the program between 2 classes.

    MSU fans are worried because Finely is the only OL recruit in the '13 class, but MSU took 4 OL last year. Apparently Jack Conklin "gets it" and could push into the OT 2-deep next year; he was a last minute addition. McGowan and Higgins are apparently "as advertised" at OG and Conklin's emergence has given the staff confidence to roll with just Finely should Matt Miller not flip from Wisky.

    That said, I'd expect at least 3 OL in '14, if not 4-5.

    One thing of somewhat random note, the '12 OL class for MSU came in as large as any I've seen. Everyone was at least 300 pounds, with Higgins at 307 and McGowan at 315. Not sure if it was good weight/bad weight, but it's odd to see after having guys like Jackson, Treadwell, Fonoti, Allen and even McDonald struggle to hit 300 (Treadwell's the only 300 pounder, the others are 280, 296, 295 and 298 respectively).

    Heights and weights are far from everything, but it's hard for me to ignore that MSU's best run-blocking OL (2007, #25 ranked rush O) was also it's biggest (averaged 308 pounds across the board). Strength and technique are more important, but there's at least some correlation between bigger guys being stronger. It's not always the case (WMU 2 years ago had one of the top 10 biggest OL in the country and MSU ate them alive), just an observation more than anything else.

    Height and weight isn't everything, but if everything else is equal, give me the bigger kid.

    Michigan had one 300 lb kid last year, Kalis. This cycle there is 3, Bosch, Fox, and LTT. Dawson has some growing to do at 285. lol Kulger is the lightweight center at 270. I don't know when these were updated though.

    xxmgobluexx

  • Really hope the B1G gets a Natty this year, about time we earn more national respect.

    The B1G is just the best conference by far in basketball.

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    mriderblue12

  • MrWoodson said...

    All B10 final four. flex

    All B1G Elite 8 flex lol

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    Braintrust

  • MrWoodson said...

    All B10 final four. flex

    Ok but when you get there don't act like our drunk uncle. We, obviously are there quite a bit and we've taken it upon us to act classy. So if you're gonna be there remember your please and thank you'd.

    TIA

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  • Braintrust said...

    All B1G Elite 8 flex lol

    Maryland's gonna be pissed when they move to the B10 in 2014 and suddenly realize they have to scratch and claw every year just to crack the top half of the league.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    All B10 final four. flex

    That would be awesome. Michigan vs Illinois on one side, tOSU vs Indiana on the other. Michigan over Indiana for the title. thumbsup

    xxmgobluexx

  • D.Wags said...

    Ok but when you get there don't act like our drunk uncle. We, obviously are there quite a bit and we've taken it upon us to act classy. So if you're gonna be there remember your please and thank you'd.

    TIA

    We wouldn't think of it. The B10 has been embarrassed enough already this year by your latest overhyped faceplant in Germany.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    We wouldn't think of it. The B10 has been embarrassed enough already this year by your latest overhyped faceplant in Germany.

    Coupled with your dump down in Dallas I hope that Delany doesn't send us to the big east.

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    Coupled with your dump down in Dallas I hope that Delany doesn't send us to the big east.

    Do you really want to bring up football seasons? I would have thought your mediocrity in hoops this year is painful enough to think about.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 12/17/2012 at 2:18 PM

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    Do you really want to bring up football seasons? I would have thought your mediocrity in hoops this year was painful enough to think about.

    We were mediocre? Thanks!!!!

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    DWags

  • MrWoodson said...

    Do you really want to bring up football seasons? I would have thought your mediocrity in hoops this year was painful enough to think about.

    So being top 20 is mediocre?

    roflmao

    copemoney0

  • copemoney0 said...

    So being top 20 is mediocre?

    roflmao

    If MSU is a top 20 team, I'm the Pope.

    MrWoodson

  • copemoney0 said...

    So being top 20 is mediocre?

    roflmao

    For Izzo? Hell yeah. For Michigan? Not so much.

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    DWags

  • Harry Callahan said...

    Michigans and Alabamas? Hahahaha. Oh man, that's good. Alabama is a program that might win their 3rd NC in 4 years and Michigan fans think they're on the same level as Alabama. Wow. Michigan is a great regional program. 3rd or 4th best program in the Big Ten, but they're no Alabama. Come on now. Alabama is probably the best program of all time.

    3rd or 4th best big ten program. I know you're trolling but we are tied for 1 in the big ten.

    This post was edited by msucantmakebcs on 12/17/2012 at 2:27 PM

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    Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898

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  • MrWoodson said...

    If MSU is a top 20 team, I'm the Pope.

    I guess that's fair.. no one thinks UM is actually the 2nd best team in the country anyway

    copemoney0

  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    3rd or 4th best big ten program. I know you're trolling but we are tied for 1 in the big ten.

    Program currently? UM's behind OSU and Wisky for sure..

    copemoney0

  • copemoney0 said...

    I guess that's fair.. no one thinks UM is actually the 2nd best team in the country anyway

    Except for all the writers, and other voters who voted them there.

    No Spartan homer like yourself thinks they are #2, but don't cast your green shaded judgment on the rest of the world.

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  • copemoney0 said...

    I guess that's fair.. no one thinks UM is actually the 2nd best team in the country anyway

    No one? Really? Because most AP voters seem to think that. Well, except the three who voted us #1.

    MrWoodson