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SpartanRocky said...
Well, you were responding to a question asking who the last highly rated RB was that did well at UM . . . .and you responded by naming a 3-star .

Dantonios class is unbelievable, filled with high ranked 3 stars!
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Cincy's got some sweet helmets for the Belk bowl. What the hell is a belk?
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SpartanRocky said...
Well, you were responding to a question asking who the last highly rated RB was that did well at UM . . . .and you responded by naming a 3-star .

I'll acknowledge that it's been awhile but it is an extremely stupid question when it is known that Fred Jackson can develop RBs and he's recruiting Green, Smith, and Shallman.
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Cincy's got some sweet helmets for the Belk bowl. What the hell is a belk?

Belk is a clothing company.
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Braintrust said...
Cincy's got some sweet helmets for the Belk bowl. What the hell is a belk?

southern department store

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RabidWolverine said...
Belk is a clothing company.

Ohh. Honestly have never heard of them, figured it would be a bank or something.
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msucan'tmakebcs said...
What difference does it make. It shows that our coaches can develop RBs. When you recruit so many 4/5 star RBs some will fall through and some will be stars.

Or it shows that the star ranking system is a bunch of BS.
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msucan'tmakebcs said...
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Did recruiting rankings exist in 1999-2000?
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steveschneider said...
Or it shows that the star ranking system is a bunch of BS.

Alabama and Florida disagree with you.
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msucan'tmakebcs said...
I'll acknowledge that it's been awhile but it is an extremely stupid question when it is known that Fred Jackson can develop RBs and he's recruiting Green, Smith, and Shallman.

Can he develop RBs? RB's coach 2008-present.. that's post Mike Hart era..
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Can he develop RBs? RB's coach 2008-present.. that's post Mike Hart era..

His RBs were unbelievable pre 2008 and then RR introduced a spread offense and Jackson works with pro style RBs.

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msucan'tmakebcs said...
Alabama and Florida disagree with you.

Four star players sit on the bench at those schools, they were overrated from the get go.
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steveschneider said...
Four star players sit on the bench at those schools, they were overrated from the get go.

Any system is never going to be 100 percent true, but the research has shown that 4 and 5 stars are more likely to be successful in college than 3 stars.

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msucan'tmakebcs said...
Any system is never going to be 100 percent true, but the research has shown that 4 and 5 stars are more likely to be successful in college than 3 stars.

The research looks at 10 years or so.. not close to a large enough sample size to determine one way or the other
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Lunardi's latest S-Curve - Michigan up to 2, IU down to 5 (Still an autobid), OSU at 9, Minny at 10, Illinois at 12, MSU at 17, Wiscy at 36.
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Lunardi's latest S-Curve - Michigan up to 2, IU down to 5 (Still an autobid), OSU at 9, Minny at 10, Illinois at 12, MSU at 17, Wiscy at 36.

I'd be very happy with a #2 seed.
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MrWoodson said...
I'd be very happy with a #2 seed.

Michigan should get a one seed. if all things stay the same.
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D.Wags said...
Michigan should get a one seed. if all things stay the same.

I understand how the S curve works. I was just saying I would be happy with a #2 seed. A #1 seed comes with a ton of pressure and there really isn't much difference between a #1 and a #2 in terms of who you play.
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I understand how the S curve works. I was just saying I would be happy with a #2 seed. A #1 seed comes with a ton of pressure and there really isn't much difference between a #1 and a #2 in terms of who you play.

Meh, ask Missouri, they were pretty bitter last year. Oh, Hollis is on the selection committee, so if you guys are close, I'm sure he'll put you over the top and give you a one seed.
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I understand how the S curve works. I was just saying I would be happy with a #2 seed. A #1 seed comes with a ton of pressure and there really isn't much difference between a #1 and a #2 in terms of who you play.

Believe you're twice as likely to reach the FF being a #1 seed over a #2 based on history..
Will try to find updated article that speaks to that
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copemoney0 said...
Believe you're twice as likely to reach the FF being a #1 seed over a #2 based on history..
Will try to find updated article that speaks to that

To a large extent, you are confusing historical statistical correlation with causation. #1 seeds are generally more likely to make the final four because they are usually the four best teams, not because having a #1 seed makes their path that much easier.

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D.Wags said...
Meh, ask Missouri, they were pretty bitter last year. Oh, Hollis is on the selection committee, so if you guys are close, I'm sure he'll put you over the top and give you a one seed.

Hollis will not be involved in any conversation regarding B10 teams. He is required to recuse himself.
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MrWoodson said...
To a large extent, you are confusing historical statistical correlation with causation. #1 seeds are generally more likely to make the final four because they are usually the four best teams, not because having a #1 seed makes their path that much easier.

Whatever the reason- if I had a choice b/w a 1 and a 2, I'm obviously taking the 1..
2's get knocked off decent amount in the 2nd round compared to the 1 v 8.9 matchup..
All teams are good teams in the S16
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Believe you're twice as likely to reach the FF being a #1 seed over a #2 based on history..
Will try to find updated article that speaks to that

It doesn't matter much in the beggining rounds but when you get to the sweet sixteen and elite eight the matchups are a lot better.
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Hollis will not be involved in any conversation regarding B10 teams. He is required to recuse himself.

exactly!!! He will have no influence whatsoever. I've quoted this for March reference.
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