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  • MrWoodson said...

    Girls? I had no idea. NTTAWWT.

    Look, I know you walked the campus in ann arbor, you need to know that on some college campuses girls exist. Many are beautiful. The do exist at Michigan too, it's just hard to see the difference there.

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  • Due51 said...

    I honestly don't know why you got out of ADing. You got the easy answers to the complex issues.

    Quit wasting your time with that drivers training baloney.

    It's a salary thing now. Three women too. You know, since I've been out of the business and coaching too, I've never made a bad call and I know what a football team should do immediately after theyve just done it.

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  • D.Wags said...

    It's a salary thing now. Three women too. You know, since I've been out of the business and coaching too, I've never made a bad call and I know what a football team should do immediately after theyve just done it.

    Wait! You're bringing down more cheese than Hollis or Brandon?

    WTF? I wanna buy one of your franchises.

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  • Due51 said...

    Wait! You're bringing down more cheese than Hollis or Brandon?

    WTF? I wanna buy one of your franchises.

    I'm so broke I can't pay attention. It's my station in life. Wish it wasn't.

    You reay want one? biggrin

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  • Eighteen team B10. Three geographically sane divisions of six teams each. Nine conference games (5 in-division and 2 from each other division). No guaranteed cross division rivals. Top two teams (based on B10 record) play in BTCCG.

    B10 East
    ND*
    PSU
    MIA or GT
    UNC
    UVA
    MD

    B10 Central
    OSU
    UM
    MSU
    RU
    PU
    IU

    B10 West
    UNL
    WI
    IA
    IL
    NW
    MN

    * If ND refuses, B10 takes both MIA and GT. Additional "backup" picks could include Duke, Syracuse, BC, VT and NCSt.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Eighteen team B10. Three geographically sane divisions of six teams each. Nine conference games (5 in-division and 2 each from each other division). No guaranteed cross division rivals. Top two teams (based on B10 record) play in BTCCG.

    B10 East
    ND
    PSU
    MIA or GT
    UNC
    UVA
    MD

    B10 Central
    OSU
    UM
    MSU
    RU
    PU
    IU

    B10 West
    UNL
    WI
    IA
    IL
    NW
    MN

    Make it happen.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Eighteen team B10. Three geographically sane divisions of six teams each. Nine conference games (5 in-division and 2 each from each other division). No guaranteed cross division rivals. Top two teams (based on B10 record) play in BTCCG.

    B10 EastND PSU MIA or GT UNC UVA MD

    B10 CentralOSU UM MSU RU PU IU

    B10 WestUNL WI IA IL NW MN

    Big 10 "East" should add 2 more teams and just be the Big East Part II, trading ND to the "Central" for RU to keep things lined up geographically.

    I hate hate hate conference realignment with a passion.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Eighteen team B10. Three geographically sane divisions of six teams each. Nine conference games (5 in-division and 2 each from each other division). No guaranteed cross division rivals. Top two teams (based on B10 record) play in BTCCG.

    B10 EastND PSU MIA or GT UNC UVA MD

    B10 CentralOSU UM MSU RU PU IU

    B10 WestUNL WI IA IL NW MN

    You and I both know Miami isn't joining the B1G.

    I think you have to put ND in the same division as ND, and it only makes sense to put Rutgers in PSU's division.

    I'd switch UNC and UVA with Rutgers and Purdue.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Big 10 "East" should add 2 more teams and just be the Big East Part II, trading ND to the "Central" for RU to keep things lined up geographically.

    I hate hate hate conference realignment with a passion.

    It's too unbalanced with OSU, UM and ND in the same division. And you need to throw ND a bone to get them ... so throw them the East Coast. They will likely have to drop Stanford as an annual game, so they are giving up something too.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 11/30/2012 at 3:17 PM

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    I hate hate hate conference realignment with a passion.

    Meh, I used to be against it, but now I don't care as much. As long as the additions benefit the conference on the whole, and MSU still plays UM (hopefully ND as well), then I'm good.

    I would also really like to play Wisconsin every year, but I doubt that's a high priority for Mr. Delany.

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  • Jandy said...

    I think you have to put ND in the same division as ND

    confused

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    I hate hate hate conference realignment with a passion.

    I did also, but nothing we can do about it except yell at some clouds.

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  • Jandy said...

    You and I both know Miami isn't joining the B1G.

    I think you have to put ND in the same division as ND, and it only makes sense to put Rutgers in PSU's division.

    I'd switch UNC and UVA with Rutgers and Purdue.

    Miami has short-term issues, but like ND it's a very good undergraduate school academically and it sits in a state with a growing population of more than 20 million. Florida also is prime recruiting tertitory. And taking Miami will expand the B10 media footprint along the entire East Coast. TBH Miami is a better long-term pick (i.e. 50 years) than MD, UVA or GT.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 11/30/2012 at 3:47 PM

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    confused

    Well, what I stated was true, you do have to put ND in the same division as ND.

    What I meant was Purdue, they should be in ND's division, based on the assumption made that there wouldn't be cross-division protected rivals.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Miami has short-term issues, but like ND it's a very good undergraduate school academically and it sits in a state with a growing population of more than 20 million. Florida also is prime recruiting tertitory. And taking both Miami will expand the B10 media footprint along the entire East Coast. TBH Miami is a better long-term pick (i.e. 50 years) than MD, UVA or GT.

    Are they an AAU member?

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  • Jandy said...

    Are they an AAU member?

    No. Neither are ND or Nebraska. Of the three, Nebraska is by far the weakest school academically. And if you can make exceptions for ND and Nebraska you can do it for Miami. New York, Florida, Texas and California are the largest states by population and have most of the top media markets. We aren't moving into Texas or Cali and we we took RU to help with NY (ND too). That only leaves Florida.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    No. Neither are ND or Nebraska. Of the three, Nebraska is by far the weakest school academically. And if you can make exceptions for ND and Nebraska you can do it for Miami. New York, Florida, Texas and California are the largest states by population and have most of the top media markets. We aren't moving into Texas or Cali and we we took RU to help with NY (ND too). That only leaves Florida.

    That's irrelevant. It's long been known that Notre Dame is the only school that would be accepted without AAU membership. Nebraska had it until some DB presidents voted them out on a technicality.

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  • uh.. ND isnt joining a conference.

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  • Braintrust said...

    uh.. ND isnt joining a conference.

    At this point, they don't have to. They have their own TV deal and they don't have to share the money from their Natty appearance with anyone.

    The day will come though.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    At this point, they don't have to. They have their own TV deal and they don't have to share the money from their Natty appearance with anyone.

    The day will come though.

    And they get to be a part of the ACC's bowl tie-ins. There's no reason for them to be in a conference

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    At this point, they don't have to. They have their own TV deal and they don't have to share the money from their Natty appearance with anyone.

    The day will come though.

    And it isn't too far away. Once the superconferences are formed, it's only a matter of time before they have a de facto playoff system, which would require membership in one of said conferences to be included.

    Notre Dame isn't blind to this fact. They will join a conference, and it's a near certainty that when that happens, it will be the B1G.

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  • Braintrust said...

    And they get to be a part of the ACC's bowl tie-ins. There's no reason for them to be in a conference

    The ACC will not be one of the 4 superconferences, unless the B12 disbands, which is extremely unlikely considering the deals they have signed.

    Therefore, the conferences will be the PAC, B1G, SEC, and B12. The football teams in the ACC that want to be a part of that will soon start bailing.

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  • Jandy said...

    And it isn't too far away. Once the superconferences are formed, it's only a matter of time before they have a de facto playoff system, which would require membership in one of said conferences to be included.

    Notre Dame isn't blind to this fact. They will join a conference, and it's a near certainty that when that happens, it will be the B1G.

    ND still holds some cards. They will bid themself looking for the best deal possible.

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  • Jandy said...

    That's irrelevant. It's long been known that Notre Dame is the only school that would be accepted without AAU membership. Nebraska had it until some DB presidents voted them out on a technicality.

    No, that's wrong. That's never been the official position of the B10. Delany has always said AAU membership is very important. He has said similar things about wanting contiguous markets. But exceptions can be made if it makes sense.

    ND is an exception that makes sense. So is Nebraska. All the B10 presidents knew UNL was on the verge of being kicked out of the AAU when they voted unanimously to admit them into the B10. UNL was falling further and further behind AAU membership criteria (research and PhD candidates) for years and had been warned repeatedly that they were headed for expulsion. Some B10 schools actually voted to expel them from the AAU. It was not a surprise. They were invited into the B10 with full knowledge of the situation. The B10 made an exception. And making an exception for Miami makes at least as much sense as making an exception for Nebraska.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 11/30/2012 at 4:39 PM

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  • Jandy said...

    The ACC will not be one of the 4 superconferences, unless the B12 disbands, which is extremely unlikely considering the deals they have signed.

    Therefore, the conferences will be the PAC, B1G, SEC, and B12. The football teams in the ACC that want to be a part of that will soon start bailing.

    I think you're forgetting the powerhouse known as the Big East. How can you leave Tulane and ECU out of the playoff picture?

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