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I can't say this enough, I really don't care how good Michigan or Illinois is in basketball. I know we teased you guys about a quarter century and no BIG championship, but I think it's a worthless title in basketball. Im a march basketball guy and start paying attention around then. I watched one MSU/ Ium game in person in the last two years and missed the other three on tv. I watched the last five minutes tonight turned the Michigan game on and thought it was boring as hell. I know I'm In the minority here but if um, Indiana or OSU are "good" between November and march 1, I could care less. After that I'd like to curb stomp you guys. But how rare would it be to play each other in the tournament? You guys rarely get deep enough and if we met in the 16 or 8, Izzo would kill you guys.
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I can't say this enough, I really don't care how good Michigan or Illinois is in basketball. I know we teased you guys about a quarter century and no BIG championship, but I think it's a worthless title in basketball. Im a march basketball guy and start paying attention around then. I watched one MSU/ Ium game in person in the last two years and missed the other three on tv. I watched the last five minutes tonight turned the Michigan game on and thought it was boring as hell. I know I'm In the minority here but if um, Indiana or OSU are "good" between November and march 1, I could care less. After that I'd like to curb stomp you guys. But how rare would it be to play each other in the tournament? You guys rarely get deep enough and if we met in the 16 or 8, Izzo would kill you guys.
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Look, I didn't come on here and start by trashing Izzo. I came on and congratulated you on your impressive win. It was one of your resident trolls who started ragging on Beilein - the coach who has beaten Izzo 3 out of the last 4 and won a share of the B10 title last year with clearly inferior talent - by idiotically suggesting that he has a history of underperforming with "great talent". I just assumed most MSU fans had some working knowledge about college basketball. Clearly, I was wrong.
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Look, I didn't come on here and start by trashing Izzo. I came on and congratulated you on your impressive win. It was one of your resident trolls who started ragging on Beilein - the coach who has beaten Izzo 3 out of the last 4 and won a share of the B10 title last year with clearly inferior talent - by idiotically suggesting that he has a history of underperforming with "great talent". I just assumed most MSU fans had some working knowledge about college basketball. Clearly, I was wrong.
laconophilia is everywhere... http://www.msu-umbig10.com/
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Jandy said...
You said: "Talk about a coach underperforming considering the talent he's had."
Rivals/Scout/ESPN Class Rankings:
2003: 13/-/-
2004: 11/-/-
2005: NR/NR/-
2006: 18/12/-
2007: 14/9/18
2008: 22/17/16
2009: NR/NR/NR
2010: 11/10/10
2011: 21/19/17
2012: 13/13/9Based on these rankings, getting to the elite 8 or better is overperforming, yet Izzo has how many Final Fours?
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That doesn't tell you anything because it doesn't tell you which kids leave early for the NBA. If Izzo's players stay longer on average than Kentucky's, he very easily could have the more talented team in a given year. That is one reason the mid-majors are able to compete with the larger programs. The fact is that Billy Donovan has 2 titles. Roy Williams has 2. Calhoun has 3. Coach K has 4. Tom Izzo is one of a dozen or so coaches who have won a national championship and he has had more than his share of talent.
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steveschneider said...
Your last sentence nailed it dwags. It's all about killer instinct and rising up in hoops. Izzo has had some of the greatest runs ever in march. Kansas, Louisville and uconn...that is flat out incredible.
Now knowing what 1995 is like all over again! Thank you 247 technology!!
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** yawn **
It's almost as bad as MSU's football team losing to Iowa this year at home. Almost. At least Ohio had a winning record and was considered in the top 20% of all teams in the country last year. Iowa's football team? Not so much.
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