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They were successful in stopping them, except when it mattered the most. Good luck though, Go B1G!
Ain't that the truth
. I didn't think MSU did a great job on Miller at all. Robinson had his first big run against MSU and Dileo killed State. Martinez had a weird game, but yea, when absolutely needed, the D did not get the stops on these guys they needed. Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Ain't that the truth . I didn't think MSU did a great job on Miller at all. Robinson had his first big run against MSU and Dileo killed State. Martinez had a weird game, but yea, when absolutely needed, the D did not get the stops on these guys they needed.
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Due51 said...
What happened to our beloved Big 10? As a whole, we are a disgrace. Why is it so hard to compete with these other teams? What's so hard about winning at least half these bowl games? Sucks to suck, man.
On a more positive note, my wife and daughter and I went up to Ann Arbor yesterday to take my son out to lunch for his birthday. I haven't been up to Ann Arbor this many times since I was in school. Shame on me. It's a beautiful place to be. I'm even thinking about moving out that way.
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Jandy said...
It does suck to suck. It should not be so difficult to be a simply competent or mediocre conference. Instead, we have to go and challenge the ACC and BEast for the worst football conference crown. Ugh, I think the most frustrating thing about it is that it's just been blown opportunities. The entire conference has failed to seize opportunities. UM against ND, Nebraska against UCLA, MSU throughout the whole season, Penn State @ Virginia, Iowa against ISU and CMU, Indiana against Ball State and Navy.
I think the only two teams that took advantage of opportunities were OSU and Northwestern. Pretty much every other team in the B1G has at least a game or two that they absolutely should not have lost.
With regards to your son; that's great. I try to get back to East Lansing at least 10 times per year, and love it every time. I absolutely hope to visit just as frequently when I have a son/daughter that hopefully will attend.
Ann Arbor is a great city. The set up is quite awesome, from a city perspective. I'm not personally a fan of the campus style, and much prefer MSU's more open campus, but I can see how many would love UM's layout.
MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13
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Due51 said...
What happened to our beloved Big 10? As a whole, we are a disgrace. Why is it so hard to compete with these other teams? What's so hard about winning at least half these bowl games? Sucks to suck, man.
On a more positive note, my wife and daughter and I went up to Ann Arbor yesterday to take my son out to lunch for his birthday. I haven't been up to Ann Arbor this many times since I was in school. Shame on me. It's a beautiful place to be. I'm even thinking about moving out that way.
This post was edited by steveschneider on 12/3/2012 at 1:45 PM
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We were talking about that at lunch on Sunday. It's funny how each campus appeals to different people. Despite being a big outdoorsman, I much prefer Michigan's campus to MSUs sprawling expanse, while Spartans generally hate UofMs city-like atmosphere. It's just a matter of what you grew up with, I guess.
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I really think this is cyclical. Lets just see if the kids find it cool to start coming up to the Midwest in the future. First OSU and ND, then Michigan, then for the second tier teams up here, hopefully the competitors say, I want to go to MSU, or Wisconsin to compete against the teams in Southbend, Ann Arbor and Columbus. I'm 51, maybe in 10 years we see the big ten doing as well as the SEC. We seem to have two good salesmen right now in our league, Hoke and Meyer, Dantonio seems to be able to find a kid for a need (albeit he really blew it with tthe timing of the recievers and qb leaving all at once). We're not far away, but we are a distance. I've always maintained that a good Big Ten team can sock one of those guys in the mouth for a one game championship. (OSU vs. MIami) what bothers me for the next couple of years is that we'll need to get up for two games in a row and I don't think we'll be prepared for that.
Great that you spent time with your son, that's a special time. I always liked hitch hiking down 96 then 23 to Ann Arbor in 81-82 to see my brother at South Quad. Place was a zoo, it is a nice town and the restaurants are a better choice to pick from then in East Lansing. the women, however remain hotter at State. :) Hope you enjoyed your son's birthday.
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I really think this is cyclical. Lets just see if the kids find it cool to start coming up to the Midwest in the future. First OSU and ND, then Michigan, then for the second tier teams up here, hopefully the competitors say, I want to go to MSU, or Wisconsin to compete against the teams in Southbend, Ann Arbor and Columbus. I'm 51, maybe in 10 years we see the big ten doing as well as the SEC. We seem to have two good salesmen right now in our league, Hoke and Meyer, Dantonio seems to be able to find a kid for a need (albeit he really blew it with tthe timing of the recievers and qb leaving all at once). We're not far away, but we are a distance. I've always maintained that a good Big Ten team can sock one of those guys in the mouth for a one game championship. (OSU vs. MIami) what bothers me for the next couple of years is that we'll need to get up for two games in a row and I don't think we'll be prepared for that.
Great that you spent time with your son, that's a special time. I always liked hitch hiking down 96 then 23 to Ann Arbor in 81-82 to see my brother at South Quad. Place was a zoo, it is a nice town and the restaurants are a better choice to pick from then in East Lansing. the women, however remain hotter at State. :) Hope you enjoyed your son's birthday.
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It's absolutely cyclical. And the only reason the B10 seems "down" is that we used to be neck and neck even with the SEC before the SEC elevated its game. The BE sucks. The ACC sucks. And the B10 is as good or better than the P12 or B12. OSU and PSU, two of the best teams in the B10, are not eligible for bowl games. That's an aberration. They are still very good teams, but their absence from the national stage makes the B10 look weaker than it is. Subject to how PSU weathers its sanctions, the B10 will remain one of the top football conferences in the country right behind the SEC for the forseeable future. And when the SEC slips (and it will ... it's only a matter of time before they cycle back down), we will be right there to challenge them for the title of top football conference. We've overtaken the ACC and Big East in hoops (who saw that coming?). Football is next.
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Yeah, I was thinking overall for the three years Denard was there, we certainly did well against him. This year, we did well in that they didn't get into the endzone, but that last drive was horrible, just like Miller shoved it up our rear on that last drive. Couldn't get the ball back when we needed it. Again, tell me that's a highly rated defense and I'll agree with you stat wise, but it didn't meet the eye test against Iowa, Nebraska, Michigan, or OSU. Sure it was stellar for big portions of it, but it wasn't there when we needed it. Conversely, last year, when Our offense needed 3 yards on 3rd and two our "horrible" line picked it up more then we didn't. It's all relative in my book.
Yea, this year's 3rd down O is actually better than last year's, but it doesn't feel like it.
Agree on the eye test, but then again, if the O was close to serviceable, we'd be writing off those few breakdowns as "even very good D's will give up a drive or two/game". Problem was, more often than not, the margin for error was "0 drives given up/game".
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Due51 said...
I hope you're right. I don't know how the SEC all of the sudden got to be the premier conference year in and year out, but I wouldn't mind the Big 10 usurping them as the dominant conference in the country. But damn....look at the Top 10 in the BCS Standings right now:
1 nd 2 BAMA 3 FLORIDA 4 oregon 5 k state 6 stanford 7 Georgia 8 LSU 9 Texas A&M 10 South Carolina
6 of the Top 10 from the SEC. That's domination like no other conference has ever seen. The good news is, if ND, Stanford, and K State can compete up there, we all can too.
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What is going to drive the B10 up and what is going to drive the SEC down?
There has to be a reason, and no one can provide me with a concrete answer why that will happen.
If anything, I see OSU fattening up on the B10 schedule and getting slaughtered by elite SEC teams in the future. I just don't think the B10 is going to come back until the region figures out a way to pipeline talent out of the south.
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As much as I hate to say this, I don't want ND to win because I would just have to kick myself in the nuts somehow, but I do want them to keep it close to show us that its' possible. If they do get b lown out, I'll be giggling though. It'll be weird watching that game.
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Yea, this year's 3rd down O is actually better than last year's, but it doesn't feel like it.
Agree on the eye test, but then again, if the O was close to serviceable, we'd be writing off those few breakdowns as "even very good D's will give up a drive or two/game". Problem was, more often than not, the margin for error was "0 drives given up/game".
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What is going to drive the B10 up and what is going to drive the SEC down?
There has to be a reason, and no one can provide me with a concrete answer why that will happen.
If anything, I see OSU fattening up on the B10 schedule and getting slaughtered by elite SEC teams in the future. I just don't think the B10 is going to come back until the region figures out a way to pipeline talent out of the south.
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It's absolutely cyclical. And the only reason the B10 seems "down" is that we used to be neck and neck even with the SEC before the SEC elevated its game. The BE sucks. The ACC sucks. And the B10 is as good or better than the P12 or B12. OSU and PSU, two of the best teams in the B10, are not eligible for bowl games. That's an aberration. They are still very good teams, but their absence from the national stage makes the B10 look weaker than it is. Subject to how PSU weathers its sanctions, the B10 will remain one of the top football conferences in the country right behind the SEC for the forseeable future. And when the SEC slips (and it will ... it's only a matter of time before they cycle back down), we will be right there to challenge them for the title of top football conference. We've overtaken the ACC and Big East in hoops (who saw that coming?). Football is next.
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It's absolutely cyclical. And the only reason the B10 seems "down" is that we used to be neck and neck even with the SEC before the SEC elevated its game. The BE sucks. The ACC sucks. And the B10 is as good or better than the P12 or B12. OSU and PSU, two of the best teams in the B10, are not eligible for bowl games. That's an aberration. They are still very good teams, but their absence from the national stage makes the B10 look weaker than it is. Subject to how PSU weathers its sanctions, the B10 will remain one of the top football conferences in the country right behind the SEC for the forseeable future. And when the SEC slips (and it will ... it's only a matter of time before they cycle back down), we will be right there to challenge them for the title of top football conference. We've overtaken the ACC and Big East in hoops (who saw that coming?). Football is next.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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I think the unequal recruiting practices hurt too, referring to oversigning, not paying players as many allege. There's just no substitute to being able to gloss over recruiting misses without missing much of a beat.
I don't think the southern talent is all that much better, but with year-round football, I think southern players tend to be able to contribute faster than their northern counterparts. How many true FR tore it up in the Big 10 this year? I can't think of any off hand; can anyone help me out?
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D.Wags said...
Just like it was when we got that 3rd down last year, did we pick it up in the first quarter, or when we needed to on a crucial drive late, this years defense seemed to break down just wnen they needed to stand and deliver. When you lose five games, on the last drive, the last possession or in overtime, it's beyond frustrating. There is a key ingrediant missing, and we can't say it's talent. Concentration, guts, character. Whatever it is, we didn't have it. Dantonio needs to find it. On odds alone we should have won 2 of those 5 games. It would have given the season a whole different feel.
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I think ND is benefiting from having an NFL ready LB come back and play at the college level. You can't run against that defense up the middle in the red zone because of this guy. I think he's a once a decade type of talent that comes around to a team. I don't think ND will sustain this level of success.
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