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The Official Michigan, MSU Thread (CLOSED)

  • Due51 said...

    Sparty out in full force tonight, cocky as ever. It's like it used to be. "wait til basketball season".

    New thread, trying to replicate all the cat fights that made the old thread so memorable.

    BTW, who's UM supposed to be playing in their bowl? LSU? Georgia? S. Car? Lots of marquee opponents available.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Jandy said...

    Haha. Not cocky at all, but when UM trolls prod, we're not going to ignore it forever.

    Funny how UM trolls are just speaking the truth. MSU responding is 'Sparty being cocky'.

    Typical UM blathering.

    So you fall for trolling that easily? Good to know.

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    MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13

    Due51

  • MrWoodson said...

    Are we counting the scandal-ridden George Perles era?

    When was UM's last great non-scandal ridden bball team? Honest question . . . Glen Rice-Era?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Due51 said...

    So you fall for trolling that easily? Good to know.

    I can't imagine how hilarious this thread will be if UM loses to tOSU and their bowl and MSU wins out, giving both teams the same record in '12.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    New thread, trying to replicate all the cat fights that made the old thread so memorable.

    BTW, who's UM supposed to be playing in their bowl? LSU? Georgia? S. Car? Lots of marquee opponents available.

    Too early to tell. I've seen the Bowl projections, but those things change every week. We still have some meaningful games to play so we'll see.

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    Due51

  • SpartanRocky said...

    I can't imagine how hilarious this thread will be if UM loses to tOSU and their bowl and MSU wins out, giving both teams the same record in '12.

    I think it will be ten times more hilarious if State loses its next two and doesn't qualify for a bowl, but that's just me.

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    Due51

  • SpartanRocky said...

    When was UM's last great non-scandal ridden bball team? Honest question . . . Glen Rice-Era?

    Only about five seasons were vacated due to the Ed Martin Scandal. In fact, only two games of the Fab Five's freshman season were vacated, so I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. We also had a team make the Elite 8 during the mid-90s that was not linked to the Ed Martin Scandal and had no games vacated at all. Everyone knows about the Ed Martin Scandal. If it weren't for the Ed Martin Scandal, MSU basketball would be stuck back in the middle of the pack in the B10 where it was for most of its history. Again, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Just say "thank you" and be on your way.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    I can't imagine how hilarious this thread will be if UM loses to tOSU and their bowl and MSU wins out, giving both teams the same record in '12.

    Not half as hilarious as it will be if Sparty drops its final two games to NW and MN and ends up as the celler-dweller in the Legends Division and ineligible for a bowl game.

    MrWoodson

  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    at what point do state fans just admit we're a top 5 team? CSU is top 100 according to kenpom and we're beating them 42-14 at the half.

    Hey, since you brought up kenpom, thought you'd find this interesting:

    6. MSU
    11. UM

    I think kenpom's rankings are generally crap, especially this early in the season, but you brought them up, so you must think they're valid. And that doesn't even include MSU's win over Kansas....

    http://kenpom.com/

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    Jandy

  • Jandy said...

    You say that UM had clearly inferior talent last year, yet MSU's freshman class is ranked just as high as UM's, and now UM clearly has more talent (according to another post of yours)? This makes no sense.

    Even if Michigan doesn't have more talent, lately they've been showing MSU that it doesn't matter. Imagine what will happen if it turns out that this Michigan team does have more talent than MSU?

    hownowbrowncow

  • Jandy said...

    Haha. Not cocky at all, but when UM trolls prod, we're not going to ignore it forever.

    Funny how UM trolls are just speaking the truth. MSU responding is 'Sparty being cocky'.

    Typical UM blathering.

    Yeah, ive not seen this anger in a while. Jebus, MSU beat Kansas in November in basketball and there are some real angry people because of it. it seemedike it was a big game but face it we haven't hit hunting season yet. I don't get the anger over it, this game in the big picture doesn't mean much. Just a spotlight for four storied programs to jump start the season. Wake me in march.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Not half as hilarious as it will be if Sparty drops its final two games to NW and MN and ends up as the celler-dweller in the Legends Division and ineligible for a bowl game.

    Yeah that would suck but face it this whole league sucks. It's just not been good for our conference this year. August can't get here quick enough.

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    DWags

  • MrWoodson said...

    Only about five seasons were vacated due to the Ed Martin Scandal.

    Is that it? Well then, that wasn't so bad after all. I think we should just brush it aside as a boys being boys thing.

    Honestly, the unmitigated gall, isn't even shocking anymore. The add on of how MSU became program of the decade because of it goes beyond the pale. I wish you guys (some of you) had the ability to really step back and hear what you're actually saying. Perhaps being a Michigan man doesn't allow that.

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    Yeah that would suck but face it this whole league sucks. It's just not been good for our conference this year. August can't get here quick enough.

    Like you said a couple months ago, bowl season is going to snap everyone back to reality.

    hownowbrowncow

  • elmn12 said...

    Like you said a couple months ago, bowl season is going to snap everyone back to reality.

    The conference will get better. I'm sure of that.

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    I wish you guys (some of you) had the ability to really step back and hear what you're actually saying. Perhaps being a Michigan man doesn't allow that.

    Jesus, I say the same thing about Sparty almost every day. Are you not able to read steveschnieder, InTenSity, Harry Callahan, and YOUR OWN posts?

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    Due51

  • Due51 said...

    Jesus, I say the same thing about Sparty almost every day. Are you not able to read steveschnieder, InTenSity, Harry Callahan, and YOUR OWN posts?

    Some are way worse then others. You know Bo only became good because Duffy started partying too much. Really that's the only reason.

    Yeah, I make those claims, I blame officials, I never give the other side credit, or say they were better and I always say how great we are. I have to just stop.

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    DWags

  • Due51 said...

    Jesus, I say the same thing about Sparty almost every day. Are you not able to read steveschnieder, InTenSity, Harry Callahan, and YOUR OWN posts?

    Damn mobile double posts

    This post was edited by DWags on 11/14/2012 at 7:03 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Only about five seasons were vacated due to the Ed Martin Scandal. In fact, only two games of the Fab Five's freshman season were vacated, so I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. We also had a team make the Elite 8 during the mid-90s that was not linked to the Ed Martin Scandal and had no games vacated at all. Everyone knows about the Ed Martin Scandal. If it weren't for the Ed Martin Scandal, MSU basketball would be stuck back in the middle of the pack in the B10 where it was for most of its history. Again, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Just say "thank you" and be on your way.

    That's what I was trying to figure out. I know the Ed Martin scandal wiped out some good teams, so I'm trying to find out what the best, most-recent non-vacated season was for UM. I'm not trying to be snarky here, I was just curious.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • D.Wags said...

    Some are way worse then others. You know Bo only became good because Duffy started partying too much. Really that's the only reason.

    Yeah, I make those claims, I blame officials, I never give the other side credit, or say they were better and I always say how great we are. I have to just stop.

    Let's not pretend like you haven't had your own special moments.

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    Due51

  • elmn12 said...

    Like you said a couple months ago, bowl season is going to snap everyone back to reality.

    6 blowout losses

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Only about five seasons were vacated due to the Ed Martin Scandal. In fact, only two games of the Fab Five's freshman season were vacated, so I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. We also had a team make the Elite 8 during the mid-90s that was not linked to the Ed Martin Scandal and had no games vacated at all. Everyone knows about the Ed Martin Scandal. If it weren't for the Ed Martin Scandal, MSU basketball would be stuck back in the middle of the pack in the B10 where it was for most of its history. Again, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Just say "thank you" and be on your way.

    So if UM was still paying players, teams like MSU would be middle pack? Outstanding stuff.

    Harry Callahan

  • Due51 said...

    Let's not pretend like you haven't had your own special moments.

    Thing is, if I claimed MSU was going to be great and they turned out to be turds, I've never had a problem looking at it and saying how bad we really are.

    There are some on here who have the ability to lie to themselves and believe the tripe. I don't know if that angers me or makes me jealous.

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    Thing is, if I claimed MSU was going to be great and they turned out to be turds, I've never had a problem looking at it and saying how bad we really are.

    There are some on here who have the ability to lie to themselves and believe the tripe. I don't know if that angers me or makes me jealous.

    So between the end of last year's bowl game and the end of the Boise St game, you never once proclaimed mSu might be great in 2012?

    You've got to be THE only Spartan to not say so.

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    Due51

  • Due51 said...

    So between the end of last year's bowl game and the end of the Boise St game, you never once proclaimed mSu might be great in 2012?

    You've got to be THE only Spartan to not say so.

    So, you really have never heard me say that I think pre seaso rankings are crap? That I'd rather see things then look at stats?

    Ok.

    Edit: I did think our oline and passing game would be better. I was wrong.

    This post was edited by DWags on 11/14/2012 at 9:43 AM

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