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  • MrWoodson said...

    Now you are just making stuff up. In 2010, Wisconsin beat OSU to earn a share of the B10 title and play in the Rose Bowl. In 2011, Wisconsin lost to OSU on a last minute lucky play, but still won the division and the conference and went to the Rose Bowl. And this year Wisky again barely lost to OSU, in overtime. For Arky be closer to Bama/LSU, it would have to be up their butts. Arkansas hasn't beaten Bama since 2006 and that was by one point. It's a little closer with LSU, but not much, having lost 6 of the last 9.

    Looking back on it now the gap argument was dumb. I stand corrected.

    But still, I think BB will have a better chance of going 11-1 at Arkansas and making a playoff, then having to go 13-0 at
    Wisconsin and having to beat an OSU team under Urban, and the Legend’s division champion. Regardless of conference it’s hard to go undefeated.

    And I think BB at Arkansas has a better chance of shrinking the talent gap between Arkansas, and the SEC elite’s in the West, then he does shrinking the talent gap between Wisconsin and OSU under Meyer.

    He’s still going to have great O line talent (and possibly even better now because of a larger and better talent pool to recruit from), but now he should be able to get talent at the skill positions and on defense.

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  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    Comparing JLS and Dantonio is an insult to JLS.

    Where's the threat? shrug

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    Where's the threat? shrug

    in the weeds, right? something like that. weeds are pretty pesky.

    This post was edited by Braintrust on 12/6/2012 at 9:20 PM

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  • Sounds like UTk is going to hire jones. lol what a horrible hire. WOS is that Strong didn't like how he was told that he was "the guy" but they were still actively recruiting Gundy. Strong allegedly started recruiting a staff as well. Cinci guys are expecting Narduzzi to replace jones.

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  • CWEBB said...

    Sounds like UTk is going to hire jones. lol what a horrible hire. WOS is that Strong didn't like how he was told that he was "the guy" but they were still actively recruiting Gundy. Strong allegedly started recruiting a staff as well. Cinci guys are expecting Narduzzi to replace jones.

    Source? Butch was pretty much a "done deal" to Colorado too. I wouldnt be surprised if it's Narduzzi to replace him, however. Diaco maybe?

    This post was edited by Braintrust on 12/6/2012 at 9:28 PM

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  • Braintrust said...

    Source? Butch was pretty much a "done deal" to Colorado too. I would be surprised if it's not Narduzzi to replace him, however.

    About what the UTk stuff or the Narduzzi stuff? Butch was a done deal until he got contacted by UTk. It's from a UTk guy on another board who's a very reliable poster. I think some of the cinci sites are starting to report he's gone too. Not sure about the UTk sites. Some Cinci guys were mentioning Narduzzi as the "rumored" front runner to replace Butch so TIFWIW.

    This post was edited by CWEBB on 12/6/2012 at 9:36 PM

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  • This is from the UTk guy
    he identified Charlie Strong as his guy on Friday 11/30/2012.
    Interviewed him next day. Strong starts calling guys to join Vol staff.
    hart gets word Gundy was looking for an out and interviewed him.
    waited for Gundy's answer before he got back to Strong.
    took 6 days to officially get down to contract squabbling w/ strong.
    Strong now cautiously takes his *** back to Jurich and talks more l'ville and re ups with them
    yet it seemingly takes one day to hammer things out with Butch Jones in desperation...

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  • Interesting article. I agree with most if it, but would put MSU in the East and Purdue in the West to keep UM/MSU together. And if we add two more eastern schools to reach 16, put them in the East and move IU to the West to reunite it with Purdue. Done.

    http://thegazette.com/2012/12/05/numbers-show-geography-works-for-b1g-football-realignment/

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 12/7/2012 at 4:42 AM

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  • I wonder why UTk won't give John Chavis a chance? His resume is a lot better than Dooley's and CLK's. smh it would be nice to see a fellow Lum get a chance.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    I agree with most if it, but would put MSU in the East and Purdue in the West to keep UM/MSU together.

    Meh, I'm neutral about it at this point. For competitive balance, trading MSU for Purdue makes zero sense.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Interesting article. I agree with most if it, but would put MSU in the East and Purdue in the West to keep UM/MSU together. And if we add two more eastern schools to reach 16, put them in the East and move IU to the West to reunite it with Purdue. Done.

    http://thegazette.com/2012/12/05/numbers-show-geography-works-for-b1g-football-realignment/

    Naw, let UM-tOSU have their division and put MSU - UM as fixed cross-division rivals.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Any Basketball games this weekend? I'm going to be watching the Pacqiuo fight Saturday night, and pretty busy overall on Saturday. I think MSU is done with any good teams until we play UT. Does um play Arky this weekend?

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  • Well, with Jones at TN now, you have to think Narduzzi's on Cincy's short list of candidates.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • InTenSity said...

    Any Basketball games this weekend? I'm going to be watching the Pacqiuo fight Saturday night, and pretty busy overall on Saturday. I think MSU is done with any good teams until we play UT. Does um play Arky this weekend?

    Yep, UM - Arky is this weekend. MSU - Loyola (CHI), which is interested because I went to law school at Loyola lol. They're horrible.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Well, with Jones at TN now, you have to think Narduzzi's on Cincy's short list of candidates.

    Sounds about right. So who moves up the ranks? Tressel?

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  • steveschneider said...

    Sounds about right. So who moves up the ranks? Tressel?

    That would be my best guess. LBs have definitely been the strongest, most consistent unit on D and you know he has the pedigree. Would maintain the "promote from within", plus lends the big name to the position. I'd assume Narduzzi would take 2 assistants to be the OC and DC too, if he goes. Nothing's set in stone, but Cincy was the one job popping open that worried me with Narduzzi.

    Now, Cincy may elect to grab a HC at a lower-level school (Mario Cristobal coming free could be appealing), but Narduzzi is definitely one of the biggest coordinator names out there.

    This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 12/7/2012 at 10:23 AM

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • CWEBB said...

    Looking back on it now the gap argument was dumb. I stand corrected.

    But still, I think BB will have a better chance of going 11-1 at Arkansas and making a playoff, then having to go 13-0 at Wisconsin and having to beat an OSU team under Urban, and the Legend’s division champion. Regardless of conference it’s hard to go undefeated.

    And I think BB at Arkansas has a better chance of shrinking the talent gap between Arkansas, and the SEC elite’s in the West, then he does shrinking the talent gap between Wisconsin and OSU under Meyer.

    He’s still going to have great O line talent (and possibly even better now because of a larger and better talent pool to recruit from), but now he should be able to get talent at the skill positions and on defense.

    I agree with a lot of your statements...

    I think BB will probably hover around between 20-10th ranked team in the country with the occasional year where he lands in the top 10 and does really well.

    All just a gut feeling but we will see.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Naw, let UM-tOSU have their division and put MSU - UM as fixed cross-division rivals.

    Please, no more fixed cross division rivals. KISS.

    MrWoodson

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Well, with Jones at TN now, you have to think Narduzzi's on Cincy's short list of candidates.

    Why are you guys so eager to get rid of Narduzzi?

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    Why are you guys so eager to get rid of Narduzzi?

    We feel like he's holding Roushar back.

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    Braintrust

  • MrWoodson said...

    Why are you guys so eager to get rid of Narduzzi?

    lol Just being realistic here.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Just being realistic here.

    He should be, and he should be trippling his salary. Foolish for him not to take it. Good for him. Dantonio will survive.

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  • D.Wags said...

    He should be, and he should be trippling his salary. Foolish for him not to take it. Good for him. Dantonio will survive.

    Isn't that pretty much how you ended up with Roushar at OC?

    MrWoodson

  • Dear Michigan,

    Please take it easy on my very young and inexperienced Razorback basketball team tomorrow. I know y'all may want some revenge for last season; however, we can be friends and pretend that was an exhibition game... even though I was at the game... sitting right behind your Detroit Tiger Torii Hunter.

    Peace be with you (yes, I'm catholic),
    wps88

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  • wps88 said...

    Dear Michigan,

    Please take it easy on my very young and inexperienced Razorback basketball team tomorrow. I know y'all may want some revenge for last season; however, we can be friends and pretend that was an exhibition game... even though I was at the game... sitting right behind your Detroit Tiger Torii Hunter.

    Peace be with you (yes, I'm catholic),
    wps88

    I hope they put the hog on a spit. thumbsup

    xxmgobluexx

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