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Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder what the 'quads' are going to look like...
I think geographical divisions would actually lend themselves to competitive balance. Let's say the B1G adds ND and Virginia. I'm also going to assume that the schedule breaks out so that each team has 3 games within their quad, 4 games with another quad (which rotates), and 1 additional 'flex' game. Normally, the flex game would be used for protected rivals, but will be assigned in years when a team's quad is paired with the quad of their protected rival.
Leaders: PSU OSU Maryland Rutgers
Legends: UM MSU Wisconsin Indiana
Lurkers: Nebraska Minnesota Illinois Iowa
Rudy: Notre Dame Virginia Northwestern Purdue
With this format, a 4 team playoff would decide the conference championship (which I believe will feed directly into the overall playoff). Therefore, as long as UM/OSU's quads don't meet in the B1G semifinals, they can play the final regular season game without having to worry about playing each other in consecutive weeks. I would suggest a Leaders/Lurkers semifinal and a Legends/Rudy semifinal..
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I don’t like the 4 team playoff, to decide the B1G champ. The pod system should be used for scheduling purposes and that’s it. IMO when/if they go to 16 they should have the two best team’s regardless of pod play in the B1GCG. I don’t think a team should get a chance at a championship just because they won their crappy pod.
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With the upcoming 4-team playoff, I'd like to do away with the conference CG. The focus with the playoff and bloated conferences is no longer on winning a conference. It's like the basketball tourney; it benefits each team with $$$ but only really helps those teams on the bubble or below.
I don't like it because its not the college game I've loved for 40+ years, but it's reality.
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With the upcoming 4-team playoff, I'd like to do away with the conference CG. The focus with the playoff and bloated conferences is no longer on winning a conference. It's like the basketball tourney; it benefits each team with $$$ but only really helps those teams on the bubble or below.
I don't like it because its not the college game I've loved for 40+ years, but it's reality.
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How would you decide the champ then? Just give it to the team with the best record? I like the CCG. I just don’t like the idea of semi’s for it.
I like it because now we have a playoff. Which is great and a 100 times better than what we use to have. I’m a lot younger than most of you guys in here but the “glory days” don’t really seem so great to me, only being able to watch a couple game’s a week if that, and letting the AP award a NC seems dumb to me. Let them decide it on the field. CFB should be a national sport, not a regional one. JMO though.
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D.Wags said...
Here's what I don't follow, are we going to have a semi-final and a final for the BT champion?
If we go into "quads" will there be a playoff in that format? Then, the winner will have to come out of that mess and play two more against the SEC type teams? Good luck to everyone if we're going to do that, and even being the best in our league, to lay it on the line four times at the end of your season will be a battle of attrition with injuries as much as a battle of who will be the best.
Or am I wrong here?
I'm with Due, is there someway we can crown a champion for everyone to be happy without a playoff? I dont' see anyway around a conference championship game as there will be teams who just don't play each other. But how do we handle quads?
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Kansas is an AAU school. Cuse recently withdrew itself from the group.
I could be and probably am wrong but from what I have heard/read UNC and NC State are even more of a packaged deal then UNC and Duke or UNC and UVA are. UNC and NC State belong to a system, of schools.
VT fans seem to think that the B1G interest in them is legit. This is from another forum, FWIW it’s from a reliable poster who is a VT alum.
“Have been reading the past day or two that we have been talking to both the BIG and SEC pretty seriously. This is from a couple different very reliable guys; one who has a lot of connections to the BIG and Big XII and knew of a lot of conference expansion stuff last year before/as it happened. The other people are connected to the program/administration and for the past couple years just gave token answers and kinda denied anything was really happening on that front. They're saying now for the first time they are hearing of a lot of heavy discussions/negotiations and there will likely be some meetings with conference officials in Blacksburg in the coming days/weeks.”
I would like UNC and Duke but I think that ship sailed when the B1G added Rutgers’s and Maryland. To get those two the B1G would have had to added UNC, Duke, NC State, and UVA.
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That’s what some people want but I don’t. It might happen any way’s because the SEC will probably expand to 16 before the B1G and some are speculating they will add two semi games. IMO it’s a bad idea.
I just want to take the two best teams in the B1G and have them play in the CG. I don’t think you should have a chance at the championship just because you beat the other 3 crappy teams in your pod.
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D.Wags said...
It looks like we're falling into 4 leagues with 16 teams aren't we? That will create a huge defacto playoff for college football. Two semi's in each league, one championship, you come out and play a semi and then a final. That's basically a 16 team playoff.
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MrWoodson said...
The NCAA rule will be changed. It was changed bavk in the 90s to allow CCGs and again recently to allow the 4-team playoff that will begin in 2014. If the SEC and B10 both go to 16 and want the rule changed to permit conference semifinals, the rule will be changed.
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Why does the NCAA exist?
I know th stated reasons. But really, why does it even exist? To allow for random selective punishment of schools? Other than that, what is it's purpose? To suck the teet of of the SEC and Delany?
Here's the problem: We need giants at this time in our league as coaches. Like Bo, Like Woody, yes, like Joe once was. That's what we need. They need to be able to stand up to Delany if they know its BS, but there isn't a coach in this league with that kind of Cache. Izzo maybe in bball, probably not even him. Absolutely no coach in football has cache to step in front of this and say "whoa, lets slow down a bit and talk about it".
Do you think Bo, Woody and Joe in his prime would have anything to do with this? It would be funny the way those three would have turned him inside out in public. No way now.
Not only are we weak in football this year, our coaches are nowhere to be heard from.
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Due51 said...
Somebody has to govern the whole thing. We can't have the likes of Saban, Kiffin, and Callipari terrorizing the citizens with no police around. Plus, we have to make sure the little guys at the smaller schools/non-revenue sports are protected or they'll be wiped from the face of athletic earth.
Someone has to do it. The NCAA is the only one, until the presidents and ADs figure out how to further increase their own powers while eliminating the association
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They aren't doing a very good job with Callipari.
Saw that Saban is arguing already that if he loses the SEC championship game that UofF shouldn't be able to jump them. Guy wants the rules changed when it could potentially affect his school but stfu last year when it didn't matter to him.
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They aren't doing a very good job with Callipari.
Saw that Saban is arguing already that if he loses the SEC championship game that UofF shouldn't be able to jump them. Guy wants the rules changed when it could potentially affect his school but stfu last year when it didn't matter to him.
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