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The Official Michigan, MSU, and 1 Random Guy from Arky Thread

  • OTPT said...

    By himself, huh? You really don't want me to go pull up his stats in games against MSU, do you?

    He's had 29 total pts in 4 games vs MSU

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Were Novak and Douglass great players?

    Morgan? What has he done?

    Timmy H was a 4star and had his worst year in 2011

    Buke- already gave this one to you

    GR3 - hasn't played yet

    Irvin- hasn't played yet

    So, outside of Burke, you listed Timmy who was a 4star, Morgan who hasn't played higher than a 3 at any point, and Novak and Douglass that were nice system players for Bee___

    Novak And Douglass were indeed great players. They helped in team in so many ways that didn't show up on the stat sheet.

    Morgan has become a solid C/PF for us. He isn't spectacular, but he is serviceable.

    THJ has outplayed his ranking. I've seen many scouts say that he could be a first rounder in the NBA draft.

    GR3 - I know. But he rose in the rankings, which is the best argument I can give you until he does play.

    Irvin - same deal with GR3.

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    2006 Michigan was better than anything Wisconsin put together.

    I don't know what that means

    2006

    Wisky 12-1.. UM 11-2..

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  • OTPT said...

    By himself, huh? You really don't want me to go pull up his stats in games against MSU, do you?

    Well, if Morgan "sucks" and the talent around him is so inferior, that only leaves one explanation ... it must be superior coaching.

    hoops

    goblue

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Just funny how UM only goes back 2 years to try to get a leg up on MSU in basketball

    Guess there's been so few UM W's in bball overall, gotta pick and choose timeframes and opponents

    I could say the same thing about MSU in football and the last 4 years lol

    And this statement is hilarious. Because we lead the all time series. That is not picking and choosing timeframes.

    This post was edited by Rabid on 8/9/2012 at 5:42 PM

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Just funny how MSU only goes back 4 years to try to get a leg up on Michigan in football

    Guess there's been so few MSU W's in football overall, gotta pick and choose timeframes and opponents

    FIFY

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    Novak And Douglass were indeed great players. They helped in team in so many ways that didn't show up on the stat sheet.

    Morgan has become a solid C/PF for us. He isn't spectacular, but he is serviceable.

    THJ has outplayed his ranking. I've seen many scouts say that he could be a first rounder in the NBA draft.

    GR3 - I know. But he rose in the rankings, which is the best argument I can give you until he does play.

    Irvin - same deal with GR3.

    Novak/Douglass.. lol So now you are judging great players but not on how they produced..

    Morgan- again- he's average.. hasn't shown anything of being a "great" player

    Timmy- Please show me 1 link that has him going in round 1.. and isn't it typical for 4 star players to get drafted?

    GR3- OK he rose in the rankings.. and Mitchy fell.. so those even out

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  • copemoney0 said...

    I don't know what that means

    2006

    Wisky 12-1.. UM 11-2..

    We killed Wisky in 2006.

    MrWoodson ●

  • Brady Hoke said...

    FIFY

    lol at UM fans comparing 2 seasons in basketball to 4 seasons in football

    You are right.. it's the same..

    copemoney0 ●

  • copemoney0 said...

    I don't know what that means

    2006

    Wisky 12-1.. UM 11-2..

    We crushed them and ended up in the Rose Bowl and were a series away from going to the National Championship Game.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    We killed Wisky in 2006.

    Doesn't matter..

    Can pull up posts from 20 pages ago that stated UM 11-2 > MSU 11-3 because less losses

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    We crushed them and ended up in the Rose Bowl and were a series away from going to the National Championship Game.

    Is a 14 pt W crushing?

    If so, MSU crushed UM LY..

    And we've already talked about this.. UM was down multiple scores until a last minute TD that made the score closer than it was

    This post was edited by copemoney0 on 8/9/2012 at 5:45 PM

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  • copemoney0 said...

    lol at UM fans comparing 2 seasons in basketball to 4 seasons in football

    You are right.. it's the same..

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Well, if Morgan "sucks" and the talent around him is so inferior, that only leaves one explanation ... it must be superior coaching.

    hoops

    goblue

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Is a 14 pt W crushing?

    If so, MSU crushed UM LY..

    And we've already talked about this.. UM was down multiple scores until a last minute TD that made the score closer than it was

    Stop using my words against me. I don't like that.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    ...The point is Bielien is one of the best talent evaluators. in the country, and I don't think that is arguable.

    Mark Dantonio says hi

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Is a 14 pt W crushing?

    If so, MSU crushed UM LY..

    Did you end up in the Rose Bowl, have a # 2 ranking and be a series away from the NCG? shrug

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Doesn't matter..

    Can pull up posts from 20 pages ago that stated UM 11-2 > MSU 11-3 because less losses

    UM 11-2 is > MSU 11-3 ... that's obvious.

    MrWoodson ●

  • MrWoodson said...

    Coach B saw McGary's potential way before most other coaches, including Coach K, Coach Roy and Billy D.

    This is what I thought the discussion was about. Coach B seeing talent early and then those kids rise through the ranks as they get seen by more and more people.

    Guys like GR3, McGary, Staukas, Irvin and Walton.

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • copemoney0 said...

    Is a 14 pt W crushing?

    If so, MSU crushed UM LY..

    lol

    Michigan fans all get 5 stars in the "spin" category

    OTPT

  • copemoney0 said...

    Novak/Douglass.. lol So now you are judging great players but not on how they produced..

    Morgan- again- he's average.. hasn't shown anything of being a "great" player

    Timmy- Please show me 1 link that has him going in round 1.. and isn't it typical for 4 star players to get drafted?

    GR3- OK he rose in the rankings.. and Mitchy fell.. so those even out

    Novak and Douglass were great players for UM. If you disagree, then I just can't help you. shrug

    Morgan - I never called Morgan great.. But don't you think he's outplayed his ranking the scouts gave him at least?

    THJ - http://nbadraft.net/players/tim-hardaway-jr
    But notice I said COULD go first round. I never said he is a definite first round pick.

    Mitch took on a different role for his team, which caused him to fall in the rankings.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    This is what I thought the discussion was about. Coach B seeing talent early and then those kids rise through the ranks as they get seen by more and more people.

    Guys like GR3, McGary, Staukas, Irvin and Walton.

    Didn't Mitch fall hard in the rankings after committing?

    copemoney0 ●

  • copemoney0 said...

    Is a 14 pt W crushing?

    If so, MSU crushed UM LY..

    And we've already talked about this.. UM was down multiple scores until a last minute TD that made the score closer than it was

    We would have gotten the ball back only down 4 with 9 minutes to go hence a series away.

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    Did you end up in the Rose Bowl, have a # 2 ranking and be a series away from the NCG? shrug

    How about a boneheaded mistake away from the Rose Bowl?

    OTPT

  • RabidWolverine said...

    2008: Novak and Douglass. They weren't even ranked as prospects.
    2009: Jordan Morgan. Dude wasn't even given a star. ESPN had him as the #232 PF.
    2010: Hardaway. Was a 3* (Didn't rise in the rankings, but he has obviously proven to be a gem
    2011: Burke. Same deal with Hardaway.. Didn't rise, but again Bielien found a gem.
    2012: GR3. Was a 3 star when he commited. Rose all the way to 5* status.
    2013: Irvin looks to be the gem/riser this year.

    Is that good enough for you?

    Did Izzo offer any of those guys?

    If he did and they took it, they would have a final four on their college resume. Nobody who has stayed four years with Izzo has missed a final four.

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