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The problem with Narduzzi is the limited track record. I'm not saying that he isn't good or won't prove to be one of the best ever, but he hasn't been a DC half as long as GM has. Oh, and for those criticicing GM's tine at ND, it was the Davie era. Davie was a terrible HC. And Narduzzi's defenses at UC were nothing to rave about and his record at UC was about the same as GM's record af ND despite playing much lesser competition.
Again, if I were a HC and had to hire a DC, I would lean heavily toward guys with longer track records of success. I would hire Jim Heacock before Narduzzi. And that's not a knock on Narduzzi. It's just a nod to what Heacock did at OSU over a much longer period of time.
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MrWoodson said...
The problem with Narduzzi is the limited track record. I'm not saying that he isn't good or won't prove to be one of the best ever, but he hasn't been a DC half as long as GM has. Oh, and for those criticicing GM's tine at ND, it was the Davie era. Davie was a terrible HC. And Narduzzi's defenses at UC were nothing to rave about and his record at UC was about the same as GM's record af ND despite playing much lesser competition.
Again, if I were a HC and had to hire a DC, I would lean heavily toward guys with longer track records of success. I would hire Jim Heacock before Narduzzi. And that's not a knock on Narduzzi. It's just a nod to what Heacock did at OSU over a much longer period of time.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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MrWoodson said...
The problem with Narduzzi is the limited track record. I'm not saying that he isn't good or won't prove to be one of the best ever, but he hasn't been a DC half as long as GM has. Oh, and for those criticicing GM's tine at ND, it was the Davie era. Davie was a terrible HC. And Narduzzi's defenses at UC were nothing to rave about and his record at UC was about the same as GM's record af ND despite playing much lesser competition.
Again, if I were a HC and had to hire a DC, I would lean heavily toward guys with longer track records of success. I would hire Jim Heacock before Narduzzi. And that's not a knock on Narduzzi. It's just a nod to what Heacock did at OSU over a much longer period of time.
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Peterklima said...
I know WHY you think Narduzzi is better. You are a Spartan fan. Opinion is opinion. But, I was trying to teather the opinions to reality. While someone might think that their girlfriend is hotter than a model, if it is clear that your friend is biased after checking her out.....well you have to point that out.
It's like we are in the late 1990s and you are saying Kerry Wood is better than Randy Johnson. Woods showed some good stuff as an up and comer, but had not proven he could repeat his success and had not done it in the playoffs. Wood did a lot on a bad team, but he only had a couple seasons of looking good. He didn't have the resume of someone who had been a top pitcher for years.
You might be excited about Narduzzi and think he has the POTENTIAL to be better than Mattison one day....but there is not way he is a better DC based on what we know now. Your opinion can differ, but it isn't based on much....and that reflects on the objectiveness of your other opinions too.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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No genius, hell, his natty ring might even be bigger than his brain. This is 1 of the more lame arguments that even lead to rocky throwing out msu only stats, as if his career is based off msu only. Overall body of work, mattison hands down. Narduzzi is a stud though and will be a HC somewhere in 2 years. Comparing the 2 at this point in there careers is apples to oranges based on lack of time at their respective positions. Rediculous 1 sided stats being thrown on both sides of this argument
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michagain said...
No genius, hell, his natty ring might even be bigger than his brain. This is 1 of the more lame arguments that even lead to rocky throwing out msu only stats, as if his career is based off msu only. Overall body of work, mattison hands down. Narduzzi is a stud though and will be a HC somewhere in 2 years. Comparing the 2 at this point in there careers is apples to oranges based on lack of time at their respective positions. Rediculous 1 sided stats being thrown on both sides of this argument
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Peterklima said...
I know WHY you think Narduzzi is better. You are a Spartan fan. Opinion is opinion. But, I was trying to teather the opinions to reality. While someone might think that their girlfriend is hotter than a model, if it is clear that your friend is biased after checking her out.....well you have to point that out.
It's like we are in the late 1990s and you are saying Kerry Wood is better than Randy Johnson. Woods showed some good stuff as an up and comer, but had not proven he could repeat his success and had not done it in the playoffs. Wood did a lot on a bad team, but he only had a couple seasons of looking good. He didn't have the resume of someone who had been a top pitcher for years.
You might be excited about Narduzzi and think he has the POTENTIAL to be better than Mattison one day....but there is not way he is a better DC based on what we know now. Your opinion can differ, but it isn't based on much....and that reflects on the objectiveness of your other opinions too.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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