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  • Who will walk away with the 2012 crown for best defense in the B10? panic

    Total Defense
    6. MSU (288.0 ypg)
    7. UM (288.7 ypg)

    Scoring Defense
    11. MSU (16.3 ppg)
    13. UM (16.8 ypg)

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 11/4/2012 at 1:28 PM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Who will walk away with the 2012 crown for best defense in the B10? panic

    Total Defense
    6. MSU (288.0 ypg)
    7. UM (288.7 ypg)

    Scoring Defense
    11. MSU (16.3 ppg)
    13. UM (16.8 ypg)

    I'm going to give it to the team with the better record and who beat us. Call me crazy.

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    DWags

  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    I'd love for another shot at ND.

    I think ND is a better team than Michigan and if there was a rematch they'd still come out ahead.

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  • steveschneider said...

    I think ND is a better team than Michigan and if there was a rematch they'd still come out ahead.

    Rematch won't happen, but I would love to see it. ND was the better team that night.

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  • steveschneider said...

    I think ND is a better team than Michigan and if there was a rematch they'd still come out ahead.

    Yeah. They looked great against Pitt.

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  • D.Wags said...

    I'm going to give it to the team with the better record and who beat us. Call me crazy.

    I wouldn't say that the team with a better record and who beat another team, has a better defense every time. Offense, special teams... Are factors involved in those cases.

    xxmgobluexx

  • steveschneider said...

    I think ND is a better team than Michigan and if there was a rematch they'd still come out ahead.

    ND is better, but name a college rematch where the result stays the same.

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    DWags

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    The refs can cost the game, see GB vs Seattle this year. I wasn't saying they can't. I was saying, don't let that happen. There are plenty of plays throughout the game that if they went one way or the other, change the outcome of the game. Control what parts you can control, and then you won't have to worry about the refs controlling the part that they control.

    Yep. If you play well enough, you can overcome bad calls. MSU isn't good enough to do so; no where to look but in the mirror.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Who will walk away with the 2012 crown for best defense in the B10? panic

    Total Defense 6. MSU (288.0 ypg) 7. UM (288.7 ypg)

    Scoring Defense 11. MSU (16.3 ppg) 13. UM (16.8 ypg)

    Probably MSU. Both teams play Northwestern, but UM has yet to face tOSU's O.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • MrWoodson said...

    Yeah. They looked great against Pitt.

    I don't care what anyone says, yeah it was a close one but ND is undefeated and a top 4 team. Michigan isn't even in the top 25.

    No way Michigan beats this years ND team.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Yeah. They looked great against Pitt.

    They won Good enough.

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    DWags

  • MrWoodson said...

    Yeah. They looked great against Pitt.

    looked pretty good against top 15 Oklahoma too.

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    Braintrust

  • steveschneider said...

    I don't care what anyone says, yeah it was a close one but ND is undefeated and a top 4 team. Michigan isn't even in the top 25.

    No way Michigan beats this years ND team.

    So we're going by rankings now? So hard to keep up with you guys.

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  • Braintrust said...

    looked pretty good against top 15 Oklahoma too.

    And Purdue.

    MrWoodson ●

  • And mSu.

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    MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13

    Due51

  • Due51 said...

    And mSu.

    Yep, ND is the real deal. At this point you have to applaud what they've accomplished. They are most likely on their way to play Alabama in January.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    So we're going by rankings now? So hard to keep up with you guys.

    Brian Kelly has that team playing at a level both of our programs would love to see. It's hard to argue with success at this point, they are undefeated and looking poised to run the table.

    Sure they won a close game against Pitt, but so what? A win is a win.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Yep, ND is the real deal. At this point you have to applaud what they've accomplished. They are most likely on their way to play Alabama in January.

    I thought we were going by the rankings? Rankings say K State will play Alabama. Do you have different rankings you use to support different posts?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 11/4/2012 at 4:08 PM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    I thought we were going by the rankings? Rankings say K State will play Alabama. Do you have different rankings you use to support different posts?

    The big ten rep better hope that Oregon is in the NC game. Just saying.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Brian Kelly has that team playing at a level both of our programs would love to see. It's hard to argue with success at this point, they are undefeated and looking poised to run the table.

    Sure they won a close game against Pitt, but so what? A win is a win.

    The team plays well together. I hate that fact, but their leaders are way better then anything we have. Brutal schedule. They find a way. That said: 35-14 Alabama.

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  • D.Wags said...

    The big ten rep better hope that Oregon is in the NC game. Just saying.

    I sort of agree. I think you need a really elite D to stop Oregon, but I was stunned yesterday to see how easily USC moved the ball and scored on them in return. If Oregon has an off day on offense or even a bad half against a good offensive team, they easily could lose in a shootout. And I said at the beginning of the season that Alabama will shut them down if they meet in the BCSCG and I continue to believe that.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    I sort of agree. I think you need a really elite D to stop Oregon, but I was stunned yesterday to see how easily USC moved the ball and scored on them in return. If Oregon has an off day on offense or even a bad half against a good offensive team, they easily could lose in a shootout. And I said at the beginning of the season that Alabama will shut them down if they meet in the BCSCG and I continue to believe that.

    No big ten team has the offensive fire power of USC however, you're correct I was mesmerized by that game and bieve that Oregon giving up that many is a by product of their offense. Just too fast paced. I watched that more then LSU Bama. I think Oregon scores 28 to 35 points against Bama.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    I thought we were going by the rankings? Rankings say K State will play Alabama. Do you have different rankings you use to support different posts?

    Prediction ND jumps over K State in the BC$ ranking$ come bowl $election.

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  • steveschneider said...

    Prediction ND jumps over K State in the BC$ ranking$ come bowl $election.

    Neither plays in a conference championship game. That might work against them if Oregon goes undefeated

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    Due51

  • D.Wags said...

    The team plays well together. I hate that fact, but their leaders are way better then anything we have. Brutal schedule. They find a way. That said: 35-14 Alabama.

    I would def go with Bama as well. No question.

    Kelly reminds me a lot of Tom Coughlin as a coach. Very safe with the ball, plays for field position, solid special teams and just avoid mistakes. When Golson or Reese throws an interception they end up on the bench. Same with Coughlin, early on this year but their RB (I forget his name) fumbled the ball and the guy rode the pine the entire game after that.
    It's all about paying attention to details on these teams as well. Whenever ND gets an interception you see everyone on that D turn on a dime and just start blocking...sounds really basic and a no brainer, but they do so many intangible things like that so well.

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