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http://mgoblog.com/content/first-look-2013-defense
Mgoblog did a first look at the 2013 defense. Losing Kovacs, Roh, Demens, Campbell, and Floyd, but there is plenty of talent coming back.
"Michigan loses five starters, yeah, but that's almost literally all they lose. Mike Jones may or may not return for another season of staring from the bench, other than that the only player they lose is Brandin Hawthorne, who was exclusively special teams as a senior. They return 16 heavy contributors to the D, 17 if you count Jarrod Wilson."
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xxmgobluexx said...
http://mgoblog.com/content/first-look-2013-defense
Mgoblog did a first look at the 2013 defense. Losing Kovacs, Roh, Demens, Campbell, and Floyd, but there is plenty of talent coming back.
"Michigan loses five starters, yeah, but that's almost literally all they lose. Mike Jones may or may not return for another season of staring from the bench, other than that the only player they lose is Brandin Hawthorne, who was exclusively special teams as a senior. They return 16 heavy contributors to the D, 17 if you count Jarrod Wilson."
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IU is better than they were last year. Oladipo is much more productive and they have that new FR guard (can't think of his name) who is really good. Last year, they beat UK once and put up 90 points on them when they lost to them in the NCAA. They can beat anyone in the country if they play up to their ability.
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And not to be harsh, but generally speaking we are replacing who we lose with as good or better talent. Kovacs and Roh probably leave the biggest shoes to fill on defense and Denard and Lewan on offense. Considering Denard was injured most of the season, we already suffered the loss of him to some extent this year. And Gardner got some invaluable experience as a starter that should make the transition to a new QB smoother than normal.
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And not to be harsh, but generally speaking we are replacing who we lose with as good or better talent. Kovacs and Roh probably leave the biggest shoes to fill on defense and Denard and Lewan on offense. Considering Denard was injured most of the season, we already suffered the loss of him to some extent this year. And Gardner got some invaluable experience as a starter that should make the transition to a new QB smoother than normal.
This post was edited by Jandy on 1/9/2013 at 2:52 PM
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SpartanRocky said...
Ducksworth, and the other guys who are in the discussion about how 247 does their rankings. I think the college potential should trump pro potential in the rankings. Over the summer, I re-evaluated MSU's 2007 recruiting class using the "star" system, but basing it on college production; i.e., who had a 4-star "career". Not many of those guys were high draft picks (I think Cousins in the 4th round was the highest), but Greg Jones got a 5-star rating (3 time 1st team all-Conf. 2 time All American), and Cousins, Rucker, Cunningham and Foreman got 4-stars.
I guess I just care a lot more about how well a kid performs on the college field than the pros. If a guy is a great pro and drafted highly, then that's great, but to me the star rankings should be all about college potential and production.
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copemoney0 said...
Louisville is really good, esp. on the defensive side
Yea, Duke's been less than stellar a couple times- but has some insane Ws, so maybe they just play down to their opponents?
Haven't seen too much of UF yet, but IU will be a tough out for sure
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Due51 said...
A couple football players live next door to my son. I just asked them what Lewan was going to do and the one said they're "all in the dark."
We'll see. I think he's gone but hope he surprises us.
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copemoney0 said...
I don't get what you are saying.
Duke has beaten: Louisville- neutral OSU Minnesota- neutral Kentucky- neutral Temple- neutral VCU
If UM beats OSU and Minnesota, Duke still has better wins with Louisville... (UK/Temple/VCU = NC State/KSU/Pitt)
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I don't get what you are saying.
Duke has beaten:
Louisville- neutral
OSU
Minnesota- neutral
Kentucky- neutral
Temple- neutral
VCUIf UM beats OSU and Minnesota, Duke still has better wins with Louisville... (UK/Temple/VCU = NC State/KSU/Pitt)
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MrWoodson said...
Louisville is really the only game on that list that stands out. And FWIW they had trouble beating Louisville. It was very close most of the way. Likewise, with OSU. OSU led most of the game at Cameron. In comparison, both Kansas and Illinois handles OSU easily. And we will play Minnesota at the Barn in a week. If we beat OSU at OSU and Minnesota at Minnesota our resume will be as good as Duke's.
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Why? Duke beat OSU at home (barely) and Minnesota on a neutral court. If we beat them both on their home floors, how is that not more impressive? The reality is, we don't really know how good Louisville is. For all we know, they qill wilt in BE play. At least with OSU and Bama we know both UM and Duke played the same teams.
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It's not worth arguing until it happens, because I think this argument includes a lot of assumptions on both sides. UM fans are able to envision the situation if they win @OSU and @MINN, whereas I think most MSU fans view it much less likely that you win both, and therefore I think our thoughts may reflect that.
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