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I guess this is just me, but I think UM's WR's are pretty overrated. Roundtree was by far the most productive but he really benefited from the Denard fake run play where he would be wide open by 15 yards. No one besides Stonum jumps out at me as having great athletic ability.
This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 8/3/2011 at 12:57 PM
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Ducksworth said...
For some reason at work, it won't let me quote anything in a reply. But yeah.
I think Hemingway is a guy to keep an eye on. He's shown little flashes here and there, but the coaches were really impressed with him, and Hoke called him out multiple times. Now, I know the spring player of the year award means nothing, but I think he could be a guy who gets some open looks while teams are focusing on Roundtree and Stonum. It should be fun to watch. And also, Odoms is a sneaky little devil.
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Ducksworth said...
My opinion:
Roy Roundtree (RS Jr - 6'0 176) - He's been on a lot of the "preseason all-big 10" lists, and for good reason. He had a great season, but Big M's concerns are legitimate. Most of his big plays were as a result of Denard's fake run and him being wide open, so we'll see how good his route running is. He has also had a very bad case of the drops (see: OSU game, IIRC) which he has to fix.
Darryl Stonum (Sr - 6'2 195) - His case is very well documented, but I think he plays next year. It's also not out of the question for him to redshirt and take the year off, but we'll see. If he plays, he's probably going to be our top receiver ahead of Roundtree. He's more reliable IMO, has great hands, and is a tremendous return man. I want to make an example out of him disciplinary-wise, but we really need him
Junior Hemingway (RS Sr - 6'1 225) - Our most experienced receiver. He's not really shown much, as I said in my post above, and Michigan really needs him to step up to be the third (or second, if Stonum doesn't play) option. I think he has a lot of potential, and I see a breakout year from him
Martavious Odoms (Sr - 5'8 175) - A couple years ago, Odoms was our top receiver. He was hampered by an injury last year (against you, IIRC) and didn't play much of the year. He's a short, quick guy who will not beat anyone over the top, but can take the short passes and make a lot of guys miss. That's a theme with our receivers, who are great after the catch. That's why we really need to recruit more of a jump ball guy in my mind.
These are our best bets for WR, but other guys to keep an eye on are Je'ron Stokes (Jr - 6'0 193) and our slot ninja clusterf*ck of Grady (RS Sr), Terrance Robinson (RS Jr), Jeremy Gallon (RS So) and Drew Dileo (So)
At TE, we have Kevin Koger (Sr) who will be our go-to guy. One of the leaders of our team, he hasn't had much experience catching the ball in RR's offense, but he'll be used a lot next year. He's also gotta teach some young, inexperienced albeit talented guys. Ricardo Miller (RS Fr) was originally a highly recruited WR before things fell apart, but he's bulked up and could emerge as our second TE. Chris Barnett (Fr) might need to take a redshirt year to recover from an injury he has, but he's got a lot of upside
Sorry for the long write-up, I feel like Rocky!
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Due51 said...
Stonum isn't officially back but I have a suspicion he will be. Personally, I think he should sit out at least 2 games, including the night game vs. ND. That should send a strong message, but I don't know what pennance he's served over the summer.
Roundtree RJ Junior Hemmingway RS Senior Odoms Senior Drew Dileo Sophomore Kelvin Grady RS Junior
Stonum is a senior
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Ducksworth said...
We'll lose Hemingway, Stonum, Odoms, and Grady, and Terrance Robinson probably won't get his 5th year. Roundtree would need a better year than last year, which I don't see happening with the new offense, Odoms and Hemingway healthy, and more attention.
So then in 2012, our WR corps would be: Roundtree, Stokes, Jeremy Jackson, Drew Dileo, Jeremy Gallon, and Jerald Robinson. Which is scary. Hopefully we can add Jordan Payton and Amara Darboh to that list
EDIT: Noticed Due51 has Kelvin Grady as a RS Jr, and I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. He's a 5th year senior
This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 8/3/2011 at 11:33 AM
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We'll lose Hemingway, Stonum, Odoms, and Grady, and Terrance Robinson probably won't get his 5th year. Roundtree would need a better year than last year, which I don't see happening with the new offense, Odoms and Hemingway healthy, and more attention.
So then in 2012, our WR corps would be: Roundtree, Stokes, Jeremy Jackson, Drew Dileo, Jeremy Gallon, and Jerald Robinson. Which is scary. Hopefully we can add Jordan Payton and Amara Darboh to that list
EDIT: Noticed Due51 has Kelvin Grady as a RS Jr, and I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. He's a 5th year senior
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Rocky, it comes down to where Hoke wanted to fix depth. And he chose the trenches instead of WR. Which I'm not arguing with. In a normal class, we probably would have taken three, but we also had a huge need to fill depth at OL, DL, and DB. As long as the two WRs we take are pretty highly rated (our options are basically: Darboh, Payton, Jehu Chesson, Darius Powe, Madaris, and semi-kinda-maybe Stefon Diggs), then I'm ok.
We also have a couple guys already in our sites for 2013, in LaQuon Treadwell (who basically said that he's waiting for an offer and then he'll commit), and ____ (can't think of the first name) Oliver out of TX who will probably be hard to pull out of Texas, but we've made an impression at least
EDIT: Man, I've gotta work on typing faster. That's the second time someone's beaten me to a response while I'm typing.. Time for finger workouts
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Rocky, it comes down to where Hoke wanted to fix depth. And he chose the trenches instead of WR. Which I'm not arguing with. In a normal class, we probably would have taken three, but we also had a huge need to fill depth at OL, DL, and DB. As long as the two WRs we take are pretty highly rated (our options are basically: Darboh, Payton, Jehu Chesson, Darius Powe, Madaris, and semi-kinda-maybe Stefon Diggs), then I'm ok.
We also have a couple guys already in our sites for 2013, in LaQuon Treadwell (who basically said that he's waiting for an offer and then he'll commit), and ____ (can't think of the first name) Oliver out of TX who will probably be hard to pull out of Texas, but we've made an impression at least
EDIT: Man, I've gotta work on typing faster. That's the second time someone's beaten me to a response while I'm typing.. Time for finger workouts
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SpartanRocky,
We are not done on the DL. We still need at least one DT in this class but hoping for 2. Also, looking for one more OL. that would put us at 23 or 24 right there. Just recently they have said they want another high caliber corner. I still think they are looking for a running back for this class as well.
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