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SpartanRocky said...
I'd assume your 2013 class would be closer to 20 then? 26 is still a lot, and you guys haven't had a ton of guys leave right away like you did under RichRod. You guys have been recruiting very well, so I'm not knocking on the quality of guys being brought in, but I do question, in a class where you're taking 26, why there isn't a bit more balance. Not taking a QB seems very odd, even with Morris committed for 2013.
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SpartanRocky said...
Honest question and no flame intended, why take Bellomy away from Purdue last year then? Just to have an emergency back-up? There's no way you could have known you were getting Morris back in Jan, right?
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Ducksworth said...
I completely understand people wanting to take a QB every year, but I personally do not want one this year, unless it's Fuller, who can play any position under the sun. It sounds like that's gonna happen, and we can focus on WR, DT, and maybe RB/OL.
I'm assuming you mean a balanced class between skill players and linemen, because our class is very balanced defensively to offensively. And in that case, I do agree with you. However, I'm not worried about our outlook at RB or QB. You can argue that Gardner and Robinson may not be the pro-style type we need, as I've seen a lot over on tRCMB, but that's just something the coaches will deal with in their play calling. I'm very confident in Bellomy, who I feel will surprise people, and hopefully Morris lives up to the hype to be a 2-3 year starter.
The only skill position that we really need to fix depth at is WR, and we're adressing that with 2 this class and probably (hopefully) a couple more next year.
So personally, I think our class is very well rounded in terms of our needs.
BTW, this has been an eerily calm and informative discussion for this thread.. So.. uhh MSU sucks?
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Due51 said...
QBs in 2011 - Robinson, Gardner, Bellomy QBs in 2012 - Robinson, Gardner, Bellomy QBs in 2013 - Gardner, Bellomy, Morris QBs in 2014 - Gardner, Bellomy, Morris, and presumably a kid who is currently a sophomore in HS.
I don't see anything alarming.
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QBs in 2011 - Robinson, Gardner, Bellomy QBs in 2012 - Robinson, Gardner, Bellomy QBs in 2013 - Gardner, Bellomy, Morris QBs in 2014 - Gardner, Bellomy, Morris, and presumably a kid who is currently a sophomore in HS.
I don't see anything alarming.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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SpartanRocky said...
Didn't Gardner play last year? That'd mean his eligibility would expire in 2013?
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SpartanRocky said...
That's the same situation we had with Hoyer in 2008; Cousins was the only back-up as a RS frosh because Foles transferred and Nichol was sitting out. Difference between us is that MSU doesn't try to run it's QB, so our injury chances are lower (still takes 1 play to hurt a guy, I know, but if we're not running our guy 10 + times in addition to 30 drop-backs, we reduce the # of chances that he gets injured).
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Ducksworth said...
If I could quote, I'd quote your last sentence. SOMEONE will breakout
Out of Hopkins, Toussaint, Rawls, Hayes, and Cox, there's gotta be someone. Right? RIGHT?
You'd sure think so. That's where I'm hoping the coaches either saw someone in Spring ball that they're confident in and therefore know they don't really need a RB, or that they're pushing really hard for Dunn or Marshall.
And how does your RB core look? I know you're stacked, but between Bell, Baker, and Caper, I get lost who's in what year. Is there a chance that some of them leave early?
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Macks said...
Hardly a problem.
2011: Cousins (RS-SR) backed up by Maxwell (RS-SO). Cook (FR) redshirts. 2012: Maxwell (RS-JR) backed up by Cook (RS-FR). O'Connor (FR) redshirts. 2013: Maxwell (RS-SR) backed up by Cook (RS-SO) and O'Connor (RS-FR).
Keep in mind that in case of extreme emergency, we have Keith Nichol and Keshawn Martin in 2011 who can play QB. Tony Lippett can also play some QB for 2012. In 2013 we have 3 fully capable QBs on the roster.
Peter Badovinac also factors in here somewhere.
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TheDudeAbides21 said...
Where are these talent issues at qb coming from? Michigan's best talent on the offensive side of the football is at the quarterback position, and it's not even up for debate. Devin and Denard are both really good. Devin is going to major problem for opposing defenses when he takes over, I think this kid is going to be special.
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