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  • D.Wags said...

    Dude, I'm 50. Been married for a long time with a wife. You're 22 and on a message board at midnight. Em, yeah, I'm thinking you must be living that exciting life. You in college? WTF are you doing on a message board at midnight?

    I was at the last rosebowl. Wish we could have got back a couple times. We weren't good enough last year or this year to do that. Hope next year is different. Spin? Those are facts. That I was able to see a couple of championships isn't spin son, you said you saw one. I saw a couple. Would you like for me to have said I didn't see them when clearly I did?

    Now, go downtown Ann Arbor, get a beer, get off your phone or computer, enjoy the college life. That's not spin, that's just an old man feeling sorry for a college kid on the internet at midnight.

    Word.

    Sp4rt4ns

  • Sp4rt4ns said...

    I don't think we can. Their fragile little minds can't comprehend the fact that MSU can be good while UM is good.

    It would be beyond great if both football and basketball were great at both schools at the same time. Where games meant something every time they played. This year they certainly did. I think Dantonio can keep this up. I believe he's been able to redshirt enough 3 stars to make them competitive as sophomores and juniors every year in football. I think Hoke can too. I know Izzo can, I hope Belein can. We need more attention to our state than just unemployment and crime figures.

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    Dude, I'm 50. Been married for a long time with a wife. You're 22 and on a message board at midnight. Em, yeah, I'm thinking you must be living that exciting life. You in college? WTF are you doing on a message board at midnight?

    I was at the last rosebowl. Wish we could have got back a couple times. We weren't good enough last year or this year to do that. Hope next year is different. Spin? Those are facts. That I was able to see a couple of championships isn't spin son, you said you saw one. I saw a couple. Would you like for me to have said I didn't see them when clearly I did?

    Now, go downtown Ann Arbor, get a beer, get off your phone or computer, enjoy the college life. That's not spin, that's just an old man feeling sorry for a college kid on the internet at midnight.

    Not in college, I'm an air traffic controller however, and also married. Again you are still going into the flipping 70's to prove your point. I only have to go into the 90's. Funny I remember so many sparties saying that's all UM fans do is go back farther and farther in history. Pot meet kettle. And dude I'm not your son.

    MichaelHardenII

  • MichaelHardenII said...

    Not in college, I'm an air traffic controller however, and also married. Again you are still going into the flipping 70's to prove your point. I only have to go into the 90's. Funny I remember so many sparties saying that's all UM fans do is go back farther and farther in history. Pot meet kettle. And dude I'm not your son.

    No, you're not my son. However, I don't know what you'd have me do when you said "At least I saw one". I don't know how to answer that when I clearly saw two. Would you have me say "Well I saw two but they were in the 60's"? Would that have been better?

    22? Have you ever seen a big ten basketball championship at Michigan?

    What kind of classes do you take at U of M to become an air traffic controller? FTR, I hope you're not on the internet when you're up there. Just sayin.

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    DWags

  • Sp4rt4ns said...

    Well he's had two, back-to-back, great years now so we are able to back up our claims more than you guys are. And I've said Hoke is a good coach plenty of times. But I will never, ever say a coach is great just after one season. I mean look at Auburn. They go from winning an NC to barely making a bowl game. You guys win 10-11 games next year and I'll say Hoke is a great coach.

    I wasn't trying to get him to say Hoke is a great coach. Rocky was trying to act like Hoke as a coach is a question mark for Michigan. Ridiculous to me.

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    WillyWolverine

  • D.Wags said...

    22? Have you ever seen a big ten basketball championship at Michigan?

    What kind of classes do you take at U of M to become an air traffic controller? FTR, I hope you're not on the internet when you're up there. Just sayin.

    [smh] When did I say I was enrolled at UM? I'm in the Airforce.

    And nice joke about being on the Internet while working. Those guys made a wise choice. But in all seriousness going to prison for manslaughter because I was on my phone playing games isn't worth it.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MichaelHardenII on 2/29/2012 at 11:26 PM

    MichaelHardenII

  • D.Wags said...

    Yeah, I've watched two NC's in football at East Lansing as a child . Saw one of the greatest teams in the history of the big ten play in the mid 60's at MSU, watched the game of the century as a child. Watched my brothers team with Kirk Gibson in 78 (BTW look up all the listed National Champions for that year). Tell me again what I've seen, where I've played or who I've coached.

    Just answer: Are you pleased with half a championship or not, cause you're talking in circles.

    I guess you've witnessed the 10 years of probation during those times aswell. lol

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    ilovetombrady

  • Maize&Blue said...

    I wasn't trying to get him to say Hoke is a great coach. Rocky was trying to act like Hoke as a coach is a question mark for Michigan. Ridiculous to me.

    If I was a betting man, he appears to be doing the right things. I'm not as excited about recruits as so many of you are on this board, but looking at film from last year to this year his defense has become more aggressive which I always like. He loves to disguise blitzes. He's never met a blitz he didn't like, except he might like to take one back when he was at ND and playing MSU with a lead on 4th and ten in the fourth quarter with about a minute left.

    Hoke will do fine. He's got good coaches and a decent scheme. Let Robinson run like crazy, don't worry about the lad getting hurt, just play him. Stick with great fundamentals on defense and Michigan will win 9 and 10 games a year.

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    DWags

  • MichaelHardenII said...

    [smh] When did I say I was enrolled at UM? I'm in the Airforce.

    And nice joke about being on the Internet while working. Those guys made a wise choice. But in all seriousness going to prison for manslaughter because I was on my phone playing games isn't worth it.

    seriously. Then there was the guy who let his son talk the pilot in. Jebus, I know your job is tough and demanding and there's somethings I don't want to know when I'm flying.

    BTW, thank you for serving.

    This post was edited by DWags on 2/29/2012 at 11:37 PM

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    DWags

  • ilovetombrady said...

    I guess you've witnessed the 10 years of probation during those times aswell.

    10? I don't follow.

    Michigan basketball wasn't even on 10 were they?

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    seriously. Then there was the guy who let his son talk the pilot in. Jebus, I know your job is tough and demanding and there's somethings I don't want to know when I'm flying.

    BTW, thank you for serving.

    The one at Laguardia bummed me out. The kid nailed the takeoff clearance. Had he completely butchered it I would have been like ok, I see the problem but he said everything correctly. And thanks for the support.

    MichaelHardenII

  • D.Wags said...

    Dude, I'm 50. Been married for a long time with a wife. You're 22 and on a message board at midnight. Em, yeah, I'm thinking you must be living that exciting life. You in college? WTF are you doing on a message board at midnight?

    I was at the last rosebowl. Wish we could have got back a couple times. We weren't good enough last year or this year to do that. Hope next year is different. Spin? Those are facts. That I was able to see a couple of championships isn't spin son, you said you saw one. I saw a couple. Would you like for me to have said I didn't see them when clearly I did?

    Now, go downtown Ann Arbor, get a beer, get off your phone or computer, enjoy the college life. That's not spin, that's just an old man feeling sorry for a college kid on the internet at midnight.

    Do you remember Kennedy being shot also?

    Talk about history old man. lol

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Do you remember Kennedy being shot also?

    Talk about history old man. lol

    My father claims I was about twenty yards away from Kennedy at a parade in Milwaukee when I was one. Obviously don't remember it but when I count the presidents I've seen in person I add him. :)

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    My father claims I was about twenty yards away from Kennedy at a parade in Milwaukee when I was one. Obviously don't remember it but when I count the presidents I've seen in person I add him. :)

    +1

    xxmgobluexx

  • mriderblue12 said...

    He was a coach for 3 or 4 years twice. I haven't studied every player, every coach on the Bills' picture.

    Believe it or not there are players on the Bills 5 years ago I couldn't identify by picture. Shocking revelation I know.

    That doesn't make me a fan right?

    Chode.

    You asked for a picture of Saban. I gave you a picture of Saban. See the connection?

    Given your comments, I'm surprised you didn't ask if it was Jim Kelly.

    NigelUno

  • ilovetombrady said...

    I guess you've witnessed the 10 years of probation during those times aswell. lol

    Ummmm...your team is on probation RIGHT NOW.

    NigelUno

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Do you remember Kennedy being shot also?

    Talk about history old man. lol

    Michigan fan mocking a Spartan fan for talking history?

    Play

    Alanis Morissette - Ironic

    Alanis Morissette - Ironic

    http://www.youtube.com/v/8v9yUVgrmPY

    NigelUno

  • D.Wags said...

    Oh, and get ready for the blue wall. I've already heard on Detroit radio that "Michigan could lose 4 or 5 games next year and still have a better team than they did this year". Jamie Samuelson, the gov, art regner caputo. O.K., we'll buy it. Just let us play you every year with our #41 ranked class, and our "kind of good" defense, and our "average" coach. We'll buy every talking point you need, just let us continue to play you. All we ask.

    I don't know about 4-5 games, but if they go 9-3 against their schedule I'd say they at least have an argument for having a stronger team in '12 than they did in '11.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Maize&Blue said...

    Sorry man the Spartan D isn't elite either. Your scoring D isn't good enough to be elite. Not to mention giving up big points to ND, Wisconsin, Nebraska. Elite D's would be able to hold those teams to less points than you did.

    The 10th ranked scoring D isn't elite? Giving up 1 PPG more than UM despite having to play Wisconsin twice. State was in the top 20 in every major defensive category. If that's not "elite", then it's "across the board excellent".

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Sp4rt4ns said...

    Well he's had two, back-to-back, great years now so we are able to back up our claims more than you guys are. And I've said Hoke is a good coach plenty of times. But I will never, ever say a coach is great just after one season. I mean look at Auburn. They go from winning an NC to barely making a bowl game. You guys win 10-11 games next year and I'll say Hoke is a great coach.

    More or less my stance. Even Ron Zook made a Rose Bowl once lol.

    This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 3/1/2012 at 8:53 AM

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Maize&Blue said...

    I wasn't trying to get him to say Hoke is a great coach. Rocky was trying to act like Hoke as a coach is a question mark for Michigan. Ridiculous to me.

    No, I'm saying that one good season doesn't prove he's a GREAT coach, same as you guys said that one good season didn't prove Dantonio is a great coach. I think Hoke's smart; he knows that the best way to win at UM is to not rock the boat, go to the UM roots and let the brand speak for itself. That, and hiring some great recruiters, has led to some very strong recruiting success (*caveat* the ultimate barometer of recruiting success is, of course, onfield success. You really don't know how good a certain class iss till at usually 3 years after they're on campus).

    The general theme I've seen from UM fans is: 11 W season + great recruiting = mission accomplished, UM is back.

    I think you guys are close, but you really need to have several strong years to be "back".

    I see a lot of room for improvement off your team last year, which was a few snaps away from being 8-4 instead of 11-2. Your 2011 season was extremely similar to MSU's 2010 season, which I heard all last summer was the product of a weak schedule. The general tenor was that if MSU could replicate that success against a tougher 2011 schedule, then Dantonio was really building something solid.

    It's my opinion that the same should apply to Hoke. UM has the toughest non-conf. schedule in the conference, with 2 home non-conf. games instead of the 4 you had last year. Road games against tOSU and Nebraska could be a problem, and the boys in East Lansing aren't going to be a cake walk in Ann Arbor. I'm not going to sit here and predict 7-5 for UM or anything like that. On the contrary, this schedule can leave no doubt in anyone's mind that UM's back, as long as you win 9 games or more.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    The 10th ranked scoring D isn't elite? Giving up 1 PPG more than UM despite having to play Wisconsin twice. State was in the top 20 in every major defensive category. If that's not "elite", then it's "across the board excellent".

    Yup, Michigan State had an excellent defense. Michigan State is in the second tier of defenses with Georgia, Florida State, Virginia Tech, and South Carolina. Michigan is the tier after that.

    Fun fact:Michigan is third in points allowed against ranked opponents. Only behind Alabama and LSU.

    This post was edited by jimtaco on 3/1/2012 at 9:14 AM

    jimtaco

  • SpartanRocky said...

    I see a lot of room for improvement off your team last year, which was a few snaps away from being 8-4 instead of 11-2. Your 2011 season was extremely similar to MSU's 2010 season, which I heard all last summer was the product of a weak schedule. The general tenor was that if MSU could replicate that success against a tougher 2011 schedule, then Dantonio was really building something solid.

    It's my opinion that the same should apply to Hoke. UM has the toughest non-conf. schedule in the conference, with 2 home non-conf. games instead of the 4 you had last year. Road games against tOSU and Nebraska could be a problem, and the boys in East Lansing aren't going to be a cake walk in Ann Arbor. I'm not going to sit here and predict 7-5 for UM or anything like that. On the contrary, this schedule can leave no doubt in anyone's mind that UM's back, as long as you win 9 games or more.

    Every team has room for improvement, even the defending NCs Bama lost a game last year. Also MSU was a few snaps away from having less than 11 wins the last couple years, little giants, rocket play...

    Remember last summer when you stated Michigan would go 7-5 +/- 1 game, and then proceeded to call any Michigan fan a troll who went above your predictions. Yea that was funny.

    xxmgobluexx

  • jimtaco said...

    Yup, Michigan State had an excellent defense. Michigan State is in the second tier of defenses with Georgia, Florida State, Virginia Tech, and South Carolina. Michigan is the tier after that.

    Fun fact:Michigan is third in points allowed against ranked opponents. Only behind Alabama and LSU.

    That is an interesting fact. That would be games vs. MSU, Nebraska and Va. Tech, right?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    That is an interesting fact. That would be games vs. MSU, Nebraska and Va. Tech, right?

    Correct.

    jimtaco