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jimtaco said...
Actually, after looking it up, Michigan State's ground game hasn't been very good since 2007. The numbers really surprised me. I expected their numbers to be much higher than this.
Yards per game average with national ranking
2008:130(78th)
2009:136(73rd)
2010:152(64th)
2011:137(78th)There are two things I gathered from this:
1. Michigan State shouldn't expect a huge increase in their running game. Under Dantonio, they've been consistently getting about the same amount of production year in and year out.2. Michigan State doesn't need a high powered ground game to win. They're going to play the field possession game and beat you with their defense.
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CWEBB said...
I agree. It’s been over 20 years now, and it’s one of the first things that are brought in every discussion by trolls and non-trolls alike. I’m sure some of us bring up MSU’s transgressions, but that’s only really the trolls who want you to feed into that stuff IMO.
Uhhhh chief? Your name is CWEBB.
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NigelUno said...
What they produced when they played Michigan was 5.5 yards/carry.
You know...the Michigan Defense that was #1 in BigTen rushing defense (BigTen games).
You know...the Michigan Defense that gave up 115 yards/game in BigTen games, but gave up 213 to Michigan State.
You know...the Michigan DL coached by Hoke and Mattison.
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Proud2BBlue said...
I don't see where I'm very wrong. I'm not going to look back through 500 pages of torched thread, but in most cases, the only time I see it is after about 5 posts of banter on UM basketball some random osu or msu fan throws out the fab 5 card. Face it, most posters on the net were in diapers when this crap happened. My dad, to this day, will not vote for a GOP candidate for President. Why, because of Nixon. That makes about as much sense to me as digging up dirt on athletic programs from 20 years ago.
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jimtaco said...
Those numbers are slightly skewed considering two of our worst performances against the run were against out of conference teams. I know you're just making a pont(and you're right) but those are a little bit deceptive.
We gave up 6 a carry for 198 to Notre Dame. We gave up 4 and a half a carry for 207 against Eastern.
I used BigTen game stats.
Wait...I'm right?
Sweet. I win at the internet!!!
This post was edited by NigelUno on 3/2/2012 at 10:15 AM
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Peterklima said...
Nigel - You are beating a drum that maybe MSU's run game wasn't so bad last year because it did well against Michigan.
You do know we are talking about how good MSU's run game was because we are trying to predict how much it can improve?
You do realize that the guy who got 167 of those yards is now going to be trying out as a free agent for NFL teams?
You realize that Bell was OWNED by Michigan with a ypc under 3?
Don't point to last year's MSU/UM game to try to argue that maybe MSU's run game wasn't so bad and will be better in the future. Okay?
Silly me. I thought it was all about the OL vs. the DL (and Hoke and Mattison).
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CWEBB said...
Ok? The fact is that it’s annoying. We could be having a conversation on the present state of the program, and sure enough a troll comes in and usually say’s something like “you guys can’t compete with MSU, unless you buy some players like Webber”, when its irreverent to the discussion. If we are having a discussion about The Fab 5 then fine, but it gets thrown into conversations for no apparent reason.
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xxmgobluexx said...
Don't look at the season as a whole, hold tight to one game and use that over and over and over...
1. Looking at the #'s, you maybe right. I feel that MSU will try their best to run to the point that people will bitch at trcmb about Roushar's playcalling. The development of Maxwell and the WRs will be key to prevent defenses from loading the box to stop Bell.
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xxmgobluexx said...
Honestly Dwags, if you compared how many times Michigan fans brought up past MSU transgressions compared to how many times MSU fans bring up the Fab 5, let alone any other Michigan past transgression, it wouldn't be close. MSU fans love bringing it up here.
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NigelUno said...
How dare you diminish Michigan's 1906 BigTen Championship. Shame on you.
1906 Wisconsin 3 0 0 1.000 5 0 0 1.000 Minnesota 2 0 0 1.000 4 1 0 .800 Michigan 1 0 0 1.000 4 1 0 .800 Chicago 3 1 0 .750 4 1 0 .800 Illinois 1 3 0 .250 1 3 1 .250 Indiana 0 2 0 .000 4 2 0 .667 Iowa 0 1 0 .000 3 3 0 .500 Purdue 0 3 0 .000 0 5 0 .000
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mriderblue12 said...
Not sure if serious.
Iowa ring a bell? Notre Dame this year ring a bell? Alabama ring a bell? Much much much more embarrassing then a 3 point loss to the #1 team in the nation on the road.
But you never answered my question.
MSU has how many B1G titles total? How many does Michigan have since 1990?
You always say we refer to the 1900's. I'm giving Sparty an extra what 40 years, they surely have more right?
Wait even since 2000 Michigan has more then Sparty? 1900's?
But yeh early 1900's where it all happened. Caught us, total frauds. Sparty clearly better.
Chode.
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