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Pretty much.

No offense to all the good MSU posters out there (you know who you are), but that is a major reason why I could not converse with you on your board. Things are so greatly overblown there it is crazy.

Hoke could make a statement like "our players played like champs today" and I could see a ten page thread claiming that Hoke is saying we are the greatest team ever and we already won the NC.

Nah, wouldn't happen.

Will you guys play that awful Godsmack song at games too?

I'll be doing some random events with the industrial distribution program so I'm not sure where all I'll be.

I'm just curious if there are any landmarks or places that are considered "must visit" on campus.

I agree with your comments about tRCMB. Theres a group of posters that are anti-michigan completely regardless of the topic/context/etc. Its pretty dam annoying.

Then again, when some UofM trolls come on and derail topics . . . meh.

Anyway, I honestly dont see what the big deal about the tridents is. I think its a bit goofy, but whatever, no different than gold pants I guess. Lets just hope these tridents dont end up on Pawn Stars

I also find the hatred of Hoke hilarious. He seems like an OK guy, hasnt done anything arrogant or douchey yet, yet some on tRCMB seem to attack him for anything he does. Its stupid. Reminds me of how some UofM fans hate Dantonio for everything he does.

With all that being, F Michigan

Besides, I don't think he is actually giving out a pin but an actual trident with the players name on it. It is not a rip off of the pins they give the Seals.

I actually completely disagree. Well... mostly disagree.

Hoke has done a good job rallying the troops with classic Michigan coach speak. The old guard that hated RR eat it up, and most of the RR apologists don't really care one way or another... they just support the Coach of Michigan no matter who it is. (Key qualifier there is "most of" )

However, I don't think he's setting himself up for any type of huge failure if the team struggles this year. While the 2012 schedule is tough, it really doesn't matter too much what he does that year either. (Outside of recruiting that is... which is easily a big deal.)

As long as there isn't another complete implosion, Hoke's going to get a ton more support than RR did, and because of that he's going to be just fine even with possible down years in 2011 and 2012.

As well he should.

Look, MSU fans are never, ever, eeeeeeeeeever going to like something a UM coach does, unless it's detrimental to UM's program. If it brings success to UM, well, the worse for us. It's just self-interest transplanted into the college arena.

What he has done though, is provide message board fodder. That's all it is. I doubt the players/coaches give a flying you know what about what he said about winning a championship.

So MSU fans will likely throw that quote in your face on here, even if you win 9 games. Nature of the beast.

What matters in the real world (for UM) is that Hoke shows improvement on the field. That does not necessarily mean Ws and Ls in year 1. That means playing disciplined defense and cutting down on the mental errors. I really hate to use subjective measures, but the "eye test" is the best recommendation I can give to UM fans. You have to feel that the vibe around the program has changed. The Ws will come if Hoke is a good coach, but your '12 schedule definitely sets up for a tough haul.

He'll get 3 years regardless, barring NCAA scandal (if Locksely can get 3 years, Hoke will get at least 3). I think it's fair to judge him (as a UM fan) by his results in 2013.

Just don't expect us to wait till then. Ahh, the joys of rivalries . . .

I'm sure you'll enjoy the MSU-UM preview when it comes out. First venture into doing these things formally. Not unlike what ScoutExile is doing, though I have nothing to do with recruiting.

I'd just caution about lumping all MSU fans together. I try my best to avoid lumping you guys together with the MGoBlow posters.

We're working on that . Kidding, of course.

I will say that I did enjoy the coverage the rivalry got when we were both ranked going into our game last year. Would like to see that be a #7 vs. #8 match-up in a few years, instead of #17-18.

Peterklima:

You aren't serious are you? This must be a MSU troll pretending to be a UM fan.

I think MSU would have kept RichRod if he was hired when Dantonio was hired and turned the program around from 3 wins, to 5 to 7 and had the nation talking about your QB seriously contending for a Heisman. (Heck, JLS got more time than RR and his results went downhill instead of uphill each year.)

No way MSU fires RR under the same circumstances.

Your post even supports that MSU needs to have a better program to have those standards. In your post, you have to go into a hypothetical that IF Dantonio can keep winning for YEARS INTO the future like Iowa or Wisco, that MSU's program would not tolerate a Rich Rod type. Actually, you say they would not tolerate a guy who produced the worst team since the 1800s, but MSU doesn't have that type of history. It had a 3 win season this decade. But, once again, if you had Michigan's history, then you would have higher standards too.

You state that after Dantonio (hopefully) builds up your program that you would not tolerate a guy like Rich Rod. But, you would now.

How about this, IF Dantonio's teams go back to the typical win totals of his teams (just over 7 wins a season) and drops a dud in there (like your 2009 record of 6 -7) and a good season in there (like 9 wins), then he could be a Spartan for life.

MSU's standards didn't go up because Dantonio and the program had one good season.
If Dantonio were at Michigan, fans would definitely be happy about the season, but also really bothered by the previous losing season. No MSU fan I have seen or talked to does not think Dantonio is a savior at this point. No one cares about a losing season. That is because of where MSU is coming from as a program.

It bothers you that there is still a gap between the perceptions of the programs. Hoke's comments highlight that to Spartan fans.

(To utilize an over-used analogy, it is the BB programs. MSU basketball fans expect to have NCAA tourney runs each year now that they have established a winning tradition... even if Izzo didn't have a run last year. If the eventual replacement for Izzo struggles, but has a better record each year and finally makes the NCAA tourney his third year and loses in the 1st rd, then he is likely out. If Beilein left tomorrow, UM basketball fans likely would see hope in promise if the next guy could improve each year and get them to the NCAA tourney in the 3rd year. UM would likely wait it out.)

(BTW - How can you accuse me of misspelling my own username? That is just dumb.)