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Thank you sir!
Question here: Mattison brought some pressure as an adjustment to WMU . . . but is there a concern that an offense like ND's may invite the blitz, in hopes of getting Floyd/Eiffert one on one with one of your defenders? Also, their running game consists of a lot of traps/counters, draws and pitches. With Cam Gordon being out, what do you do about the lateral speed of ND/the misdirection tactics that can be the bane of a young LB unit (overall, obviously Herron's an old man
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Do you see Robinson, considering his ample success against ND last year, running more of a read-option look for this game, or do you expect a similar mix from last week? Thoughts on Stonum playing Floyd on the scout team?
DId I read right that Barnum or someone was injured? Could someone clue me in on your OL situation? TIA!
The OL should be fine. Barnum will be back in if he wins the job, and Schofield did a much better job than I thought he would've. Couple of missed blocks, but overall a fine job. Plus, Lewan didn't have any holding/false starts. It's a good sign for UM and a bad sign for the B1G if he learned how to play without getting penalties.
And to your first point, that's a huge concern. Our defense wasn't playing so well until we brought the blitz, and it worked against WMU, but it won't work against a guy like Cousins (it might work on Rees..). We just completely flustered the "best QB in Michigan" (
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Our LBs are probably the worst part. Jake Ryan showed a lot of promise, and I'd like for him to start over Gordon if Gordon's healthy. But that probably won't happen..
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ND moved the ball last week and will probably move it again. The question is, can our LBs flow and attack downhill while our DL gets penetration while remaining disciplined. Frankly, I'm least concerned about the secondary compared to the other two position groups.
Offensively, I see a workman like game. I think the OL will do their jobs and create holes. The RBs will have success and Denard will pick up some yards. Denard won't have a 500yard performance, or even 400. If he gets a combined 300 and the RBs add 100+, it'll be a good day.
From what I hear, SpartyRocky doesn't drink beer. He drinks wine coolers, so I've been told.
Only wine-coolers spiked with the blood of my enemies
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I think like most D's, if your front 4 is doing work, you'll look fine. If they're struggling to bring pressure, the back-7 is going to look bad.
Key is the red zone. Most passing spreads move the ball pretty well between the 20's. Once the field shortens, it's harder to get those wide-open looks that most spread QBs come to anticipate.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Only wine-coolers spiked with the blood of my enemies .
I think like most D's, if your front 4 is doing work, you'll look fine. If they're struggling to bring pressure, the back-7 is going to look bad.
Key is the red zone. Most passing spreads move the ball pretty well between the 20's. Once the field shortens, it's harder to get those wide-open looks that most spread QBs come to anticipate.
SpartanRocky congrats on the 247 gig.
Great points on the spread offense in the red zone. We witnessed that here at Michigan the past couple of years against good teams. Hopefully, that holds true this weekend for ND.
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SpartanRocky congrats on the 247 gig.
Great points on the spread offense in the red zone. We witnessed that here at Michigan the past couple of years against good teams. Hopefully, that holds true this weekend for ND.
This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 9/8/2011 at 2:28 PM
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When you don't have a power-I type run game like ND, 1st and goal from the 7-9 is just a pain in the rear. Same # of bodies on D + less field to defend = advantage to the defense as the field shortens. That's why it's important to be able to just punch your opponent in the face (figuratively . . . usually) with a 220lb RB and a 250 pound FB from the 3 yard line.
Good lord do I love Big 10 football.
Edit: The reason is that misdirection is excellent in short-yardage situations, but not in a spread. Why? Because the spread, by definition, spreads the opponent out. A pro-set, goal-line formation is almost always a dive/off-tackle run. Therein lies the potential for a very effective redzone offense. If you have receiving TE and FBs, it's not hard for them to be lost in the scrum at the LOS at the snap, and they only need a step to beat a LB to the corner. MSU loves the play-action goal-line pass for this reason. Do that once in a game, and it really gets in the defense's head the next time you're in the redzone. Do they take 2 guys out of the box to account for a pass or run to the outside? But if they do that, that RB/FB are still there . . . . but if they load up there, they could get burned to the outside . . . . you get the picture.
For ND, it's either going to be a pass or a draw play. IMHO, that's a bit easier to defend, because you're expecting pass, and the run play doesn't have the lead-blocker to account for.
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I think Notre Dame has the better team, but it comes down to execution. ND can't afford 3 TOs, much less 5.
I really think which ever team wins the TO battle will win it. ND probably has the better D and the more practiced offense, but that doesn't mean jack if you drive 70 yards only to cough it up in the red zone.
This will give us a good look at both teams though, which is why I'll watch it eagerly. Really, it's hard to get much from the first games of UM and ND; one was called with over a Q to play and one had 3 hours worth of delays. Killed the flow of both games.
I do like UM's renewed emphasis on the run game though. That could be a deciding factor; ND's O is not a ball-control style, so as long as UM converts long drives into points, they'll win. Fail on those drives . . . well, ND could get up 17-0 quickly.
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SpartanRocky said...
I think Notre Dame has the better team, but it comes down to execution. ND can't afford 3 TOs, much less 5.
I really think which ever team wins the TO battle will win it. ND probably has the better D and the more practiced offense, but that doesn't mean jack if you drive 70 yards only to cough it up in the red zone.
This will give us a good look at both teams though, which is why I'll watch it eagerly. Really, it's hard to get much from the first games of UM and ND; one was called with over a Q to play and one had 3 hours worth of delays. Killed the flow of both games.
I do like UM's renewed emphasis on the run game though. That could be a deciding factor; ND's O is not a ball-control style, so as long as UM converts long drives into points, they'll win. Fail on those drives . . . well, ND could get up 17-0 quickly.
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Before the season I thought ND was going to win and it was going to be easy. After the first week michigan looked decent and ND looked terrible. Now I truly do think week 1 was a fluke for ND, but I am a lot more shaky on who is going to come up winning this game.
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I think Michigan takes them...the home environment should be incredible, and I think ND will make mistakes. I haven't seen anything out of Kelly yet that makes me believe he can win a tough game like this.
I agree that ND has the horses to win this, I just don't think they will have the execution to win it.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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ND looked terrible? Yes we looked horrible on special teams, TO's, and Crist was yanked for his lack of accuracy. That's a lot of bad chit, with that being said our offense doubled their offensive production. Defense held USF to under 250 yards and we were playing on the short side of the field. Clean up the TO's and special teams and the game isn't even close. Bad observation, IMO.
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ND looked terrible? Yes we looked horrible on special teams, TO's, and Crist was yanked for his lack of accuracy. That's a lot of bad chit, with that being said our offense doubled their offensive production. Defense held USF to under 250 yards and we were playing on the short side of the field. Clean up the TO's and special teams and the game isn't even close. Bad observation, IMO.
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I don't care what you say, if your team has 5 turnovers, you played terrible. Now every once in a while a TO is unlucky, but those 5 TO's were not just "unlucky".
ND did not look good. Sure they had a good comeback, but you guys lost to USF....deal with it, you looked bad. If you read what I said, I think it was a fluke, but that doesn't automatically exempt you from playing terribly the first week.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Look at it this way, it's highly unlikely that a team has 60 giveaways in a year (5/game). So it's likely that ND does not have 5 TOs vs. UM. Considering ND almost won in spite of that, I do understand why ND fans feel that they have a legit shot this week.
In the same vein, should UM expect 2 defensive TDs every game? Of course not. These are anomalies and eventually things will settle towards the mean. I get why ND fans think that they have a better team than the scoreboard last Saturday indicated.
UM can still beat them, no doubt. Hard to predict.
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Look at it this way, it's highly unlikely that a team has 60 giveaways in a year (5/game). So it's likely that ND does not have 5 TOs vs. UM. Considering ND almost won in spite of that, I do understand why ND fans feel that they have a legit shot this week.
In the same vein, should UM expect 2 defensive TDs every game? Of course not. These are anomalies and eventually things will settle towards the mean. I get why ND fans think that they have a better team than the scoreboard last Saturday indicated.
UM can still beat them, no doubt. Hard to predict.
This post was edited by Ducksworth on 9/9/2011 at 12:54 AM
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Look at it this way, it's highly unlikely that a team has 60 giveaways in a year (5/game). So it's likely that ND does not have 5 TOs vs. UM. Considering ND almost won in spite of that, I do understand why ND fans feel that they have a legit shot this week.
In the same vein, should UM expect 2 defensive TDs every game? Of course not. These are anomalies and eventually things will settle towards the mean. I get why ND fans think that they have a better team than the scoreboard last Saturday indicated.
UM can still beat them, no doubt. Hard to predict.
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Ducksworth said...
Rocky, do you root for anyone in this game? Or do you just root for an entertaining game where no one wins? That's what I root for in every MSU/OSU game..
Both teams lose!
In all honesty, fuck Notre Dame. I want UM and MSU to face each other undefeated again.
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Ducksworth said...
Rocky, do you root for anyone in this game? Or do you just root for an entertaining game where no one wins? That's what I root for in every MSU/OSU game..
When I was in college I rooted for groin pulls for ND, because we played them the next week, and lingering non-career threatening ankle-sprains for Michigan. Then again, that was the Bobby Williams era, so MSU needed all the help it could get.
Now, of all the games I watch in a year, this one is by far the easiest for me to watch unbiased, because there really isn't a positive outcome for MSU.
I really just root for a good game, because in theory both teams would have to show a lot on both O and D to win. That gives me a better perspective on both teams for the rest of the year. Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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