The Blue Board

1. Izzo - Hes done it before (the only one out of the 4), and just pulled in his best recruiting class in a while, and could get Parker. A lineup of Appling, Harris, Parker, Dawson and Payne in 2013 could be well set up for a championship.

Big Drop off

2. Belein - Just because it's easier to win a championship in basketball than it is in football, hell butler made the championship game back to back. He has yet to prove anything in the tournament, getting ousted by Duke then Ohio in the 1st weekend the past 2 years. If Mitch Mcgary can live up to the potential he had last fall (which has fallen quite a bit), and GR3 can live up to the potential he has now then the team can be a 2-3 seed this year (not knowing depth and roster off the top of my head).

3a. Dantonio - getting consistently better recruiting classes and getting consistently better defenses. He's already won a championship as a DC under tressell. Next year or the year after would be the year to run the table which would be needed to win the champ in football. VERY easy schedule in 13 and 14 with no wiscy, osu, or psu. although we do play @ oregon in 14 and break in a new QB. So far this year he has 4 4-star players: Shane Jones, Caleb Benenoch, Damion Terry, and Jon Reshcke. with Riley Norman a near lock once his track season is finished.

3b. Hoke - Has yet to prove anything imo. 1 year with a favorable schedule isnt good, but the recruiting classes speak for themselves, although michigan has always recruited well. I dont think he will prove anything this year either, since he has a lack of depth at both lines. It usually takes a head coach 4 or 5 years before they show up with their players. Mark D went 6-7 before that 11-1 season. Don't think the state of michigan gets a football national championship anytime soon anyways. unless an 8 team playoff is born.

1) Izzo - Has done it before and has the talent to win another

2A) Belein - I agree with the poster above who said it's easier to win a championship in basketball. The talent level in Ann Arbor is on the rise.

2B) Hoke - Has shown the ability to coach everywhere he has been. His recruiting has been very good. Should have the talent to compete with teams like Bama and LSU in a couple years

4) Dantonio - Simply put no team recently has won a national championship in football without at least one top 10/top 5 recruiting class. I don't see MSU having a recruiting class that good anytime soon.

If Hoke can’t attract the talent to win a NC, then MD can?

Having top ten talent is a prerequisite for winning a NC. Dantonio is as likely to win one with 10 players on the field each down as he is to be the ONE coach to win a NC with mid-level talent. He has been a good coach, but his teams get blown out a couple times a year even at their peak. Things will have to really change before Dantonio has a legit shot at being a NC.

1Izzo, its a joke if hes not at the top of this short list.

2 Hoke, he will have a natty in 5-7 as long as we dont lose mattison or borges

3 Dantonio, very good coach but sub par recruiter. Got to have elite talent for him to coach up, will be scary good if he can improve this, and a lock for a natty imo

4 B, a very distant 4th, never been to final 4, never. Has us moving in right direction, but lack of postseason resume takes air out of his tires in the NC discussion

Any fanbase that has a prominent front page thread dedicated to up votes is VERY sensitive. Kind of pathetic considering your post was sincere and logical. (at least to you)

There's an "up-vote thread" on tBB, so I guess that includes all fan bases that participated.

Down here in Miami its almost always over 80, now we are moving into the rainy season.

Dantonio has a lot of things to overcome as far as recruiting is concerned, IMO. A) I don't follow recruiting too closely, probably well enough to have a general feel for it but not well enough that I know what positions we need and what is the Plan A and plan C guys. B) I think I've heard the facilities have needed upgrading, I know there is now the Skandalaris (sp?) building, but I've seen some people mention the locker rooms and maybe a couple of other things that need to be improved upon. C) Its still tough to recruit with UM, OSU, ND all in the backyard, MSU has to overcome a lot of perceptions out there with the kids, but more importantly with the kids parents.

Well I had more thoughts but the baby pooped all over the place, so I'll just stop here.

That's rich coming from a 5 star poster!

True that, anyone that says different is lying. I'm not convinced from last year, favorable schedule, 1 impressive victory (Nebraska). OSU was a bad pass away from beating them, ND fumbled opportunities away, missed the top two teams from the other division, got to play a bowl game against a team that lost by a zilly in their weak league championship. However, they were better. If they win ten with victories against MSU nd OSU (2 of 3) I'm convinced.

That's exactly how we judge voters there. Not up or down but responses to posts. They even had a thread there about it. Not if you have less than 1000 posts, but when you have more votes than posts you're getting feed back one way or the other. I had one young Michigan fan pm me, that said he feared if he was less than a five star, people wouldn't take him seriously. Really? If they're responding to you, they do. Good or bad, they have a need to respond to you.

The funny part is the nancies who are obsessed with having huge up votes and will down vote anything written by another teams fanbase or certain posters when they see them. Funny and pathetic. I would love to see a total of who voted what in threads. A point and click. It would be hilarious. Also total up and down votes used by posters. I bet I'm less than 200 total used. I read people not stars. Hey- just like Dantonio! Now do me a favor down vote this, I want to keep my total votes over total posts.

And you fail to admit you beat ohio by 3 without 5 of their best players but yes carry on.

6 straight before that hmmm, I'll live.