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ArtieLuvPancake said...
Oh look. Two responses about history ignoring the fact that their current team is complete trash.
Enjoy getting trashed by ND, SDSU, MSU, OSU, Nebraska, Iowa, PSU, etc...
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SpartanRocky said...
I highly doubt UM loses to SDSU this season. Hoke knows that team inside and out.
The rest of those games could all be Ls, except for the fact that they don't play PSU, they're @ IL instead. They got off easy, missing both Wisky and PSU, and getting terrible Purdue and tZooker.
ND is at UM, but I think it's safe to say ND is a year ahead in terms of rebuilding. Tough game for UM. Really leaning towards a W for UM, but they have won 2 straight in dramatic fashion.
SDSU: It'll be tough due to the familiarity, but if UM loses this one, they could miss a bowl this year. And I think they make a bowl.
MSU, Nebraska: these are Ls
@IL: Serious trap game. IL has more raw talent than I thought, and I really like Petrino and Koenig as coordinators. Depends on where the teams are at this point in the year, really, this a toss-up
@ Iowa: very very tough venue. Likely L
@ Northwestern: Put it in the W category right now, but Persa can beat just about any team in the conference if they're not careful. If he's healthy. Which I'm not sure about yet.
tOSU: Really really dependsd on what happens with the fallout and how the team adapts. If tOSU is sitting at 9-2, with a W needed to send it to the championship game, then the Scarlet and Gray are likely going to win. If they're 7-4 or worse, with nothing to play for really? I could see an upset. Still, chances are probably 25% or less right now.
So I see 4 Ls: MSU, Neb, Iowa, and tOSU, 2 toss-ups: IL and ND, with Northwestern possibly being in that category.
I've predicted 7-5 for UM and I'm sticking with it this season.
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Due51 said...
Complete trash?
That sounds more like an irrational thought from someone who just hates rather than an informed opinion. What part, specifically, is complete trash?
The QB--2010 Offensive Player of the Year? Not really trash. He's a gifted athlete. The OL--Lot of returning starters on that line. More than Sparty as a matter of fact. RB--perhaps WR--perhaps DL--2 returning starters which is the same as Sparty ILB--one returning starter which is more than Sparty OLB--2 returning starters in Roh and Gordon while State is moving an OLB inside (if I heard RockySpartan correctly). Gordon and Jones started more games as a tandem than any two in the history of the school. Why am I the only one who sees that as a glaring concern? DB--returning starters but perhaps trash.
So complete? Nah.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by SpartanRocky on 6/14/2011 at 11:35 AM
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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SpartanRocky said...
I hear you on YPC, but total rush yardage is deceving then for the same reasons. I don't know of a regulary kept statistic that measures just designed running plays from scrimmage, but that'd be the best measure.
YPA (yards per attempt) against is a solid measure of pass D; if a guy throws for 250 yards, but it takes him 50 throws, then you're probably doing pretty well (5 YPA); in fact the lowest YPA in the nation last year was TCU at 5.18. Looks like 6.25 and under is top 20 or so. For reference, MSU's YPA against: was 6.78 and UM's was 8.32.
The TD to INT ratio is a pretty solid measure, not sure what your problem is with it. The top 17 pass efficiency Ds had either a 1:1 TD to INT ratio or better and 21 of the top 25 did. Maybe you'd prefer the whole pass efficiency D? +
FWIW, 26 ppg puts you at 60th in the nation and 22 puts you at 35th. That's a pretty big range.
This post was edited by theyellow_dup on 6/14/2011 at 11:43 AM
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Due51 said...
Well since we're predicting our opponents record, I guess I'll chime in with my take on State's upcoming season: Youngstown St.- W FAU - W at ND - L CMU - W. Dan Enos can recruit but the dude appears to be over his head. at OSU - L but it depends. If they lose their starting RB, WR, and guys on defense, then I'll switch to a W Michigan - L. Homer or not, I'll never concede this game as long as RichRod isn't the head coach and Greg Robinson isn't living inside the borders of Michigan Wisconsin - L. This won't be the Badger's first conference road game this year so they won't choke. (they've lost their first conference road game in something like 9 of the last 10 years) at Nebraska- L Minnesota - W at Iowa - W Indiana - W at Northwestern - L, no W, no L, no W. Honestly, it's a crap shoot. MSU is 8-7 in the MD era in conference road games.
That's 7-5, which I think is the low end of reality. On the high side, 9-3 switching the Michigan and Ohio State games to Ws. I equate MSU 2010/11 to Iowa 2009/10.
This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 6/14/2011 at 1:03 PM
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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SpartanRocky said...
Check again. We are Wisconsin's first conference road game
. I had to double check, but they don't leave home until our game on Oct. 22; first 3 weeks are Nebraska, Bye, Indiana. That's a W for MSU.
And since you admit to being a homer and we all know there's no way UM beats MSU this year . . . .yea, that means your real prediction for MSU is 9-3, or 10-2 if we get tOSU.
The only game I'm willing to concede as a 90% sure loss is @ Nebraska. @ND? Not a chance that I put that as an auto-loss, it's a toss-up. MSU has more Ws @ ND than any other program in history; if there's one "tough" road venue that isn't so tough for MSU, it's @ND.
This post was edited by Due51 on 6/14/2011 at 1:24 PM
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Due51 said...
Funny how two people can look at the exact same data and come up with completely different conclusions.
I'll fly a Spartan flag at my house for a week if they win 10 REGULAR SEASON games this year.
Edited for: duh, it's two not to
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Meeechigan said...
OK Common recruits ~ UofM and MSU, Dwayne Stanford and Adolphus Washington, will be visiting Michigan this week. HUGE visit. Not sure how realistic their dream of going to the same school is, but I think we have a legitimate shot here for both. OSU was the obvious destination, but who knows anymore. looks like OSu will miss out on Jaquay, which may make them turn their focus back to Stanford.
Lets get some of that Hoke-us Pocus and land these 2.
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spartanstate said...
I didn't realize that you guys were going to be taking a full class. I still find it hard to believe that you guys have room for Washington, Pittman and Wormley. Maybe 2, but not all 3 since you guys haven't gotten any DTs yet.
This post was edited by buttesnake on 6/14/2011 at 3:54 PM
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