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steveschneider said...
I think that's a good question...maybe Spartanrocky can give analysis as to how we stopped him last year. I don't think we blitzed him that much. It was more of a contain D. I think the line backers just hung back and when he started running they were in position to make a stop.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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steveschneider said...
Fowler is coming back and our OL looked improved...I think you'll see Cousins play better with a second receiver option. I think Roushar is improving the offensive calling too. He's going to tailor suit it to our OL situation, which wasn't the case against ND. I think that should improve the play of Cousins as well.
Hoover should be back to so our D is going to be better. I don't think we are an elite D like Alabama or LSU, but we are damn good. There's no denying it.
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steveschneider said...
Fowler is coming back and our OL looked improved...I think you'll see Cousins play better with a second receiver option. I think Roushar is improving the offensive calling too. He's going to tailor suit it to our OL situation, which wasn't the case against ND. I think that should improve the play of Cousins as well.
Hoover should be back to so our D is going to be better. I don't think we are an elite D like Alabama or LSU, but we are damn good. There's no denying it.
This post was edited by Peterklima on 10/3/2011 at 10:19 AM
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Way to down grade our success, you're a blind homer that hates all things MSU. Roushar called a better game against OSU than against ND. I think there was a bit of a learning curve for him at the position, and I think he's improved week to week.
Fowler should help us put some more points on the board.
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steveschneider said...
Way to down grade our success, you're a blind homer that hates all things MSU. Roushar called a better game against OSU than against ND. I think there was a bit of a learning curve for him at the position, and I think he's improved week to week.
Fowler should help us put some more points on the board.
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Peterklima said...
The OL looked improved? Over what? The racked up around 50 yards rushing in non-garbage time and converted 3 of 15 3rd/4th downs. Only improvement is OSU had no sacks, but MSU threw almost exclusively short passes with no dropback (and OSU still got pressure). The Spartan offense looked terrible against a defense that gave up about 23 points to bad Toledo and Miami teams, so how did the Oline improve?
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mriderblue12 said...
It counts, but it is irrelevant to now. You can't have it both ways steveschneider. You try and play the rational MSU fan bit, then you spit BS at all other teams. Michigan looks improved, MSU's defense looks very good. Why is this so hard for both fan bases to admit.
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xxmgobluexx said...
Improved offensive calling for MSU? Against the 2 teams with talent level that is equal or better than MSU and MSU has amassed a total of 20 points. Not the offensive juggernaut we were told they would be.
1) 23 points, not 20
2) We played both those teams, which feature top 25 defenses, on the road, with an admittedly young O-line.
Should be a fun game between our teams. I wouldn't look past Northwestern though.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Michigan put up 35 on a Top 25 defense? Wow.
And you think OSU was a top 25 defense heading into the MSU game? They gave up 22 to Toledo, 24 to a bad Miami team and 17 to a bad Colorado team? Just because they shut out the Zips, they have a good defense?
And, you guys only put up 10 on that OSU defense?
I can buy arguments about MSU's defense being good this year. I can understand the importance of homefield and Dantonio's obsession with beating UM being factors in MSU's favor..... I can buy almost any pro-MSU argument EXCEPT that MSU has a good offense...or even average offense for the B10.
5 games in and we know that is not the case.
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??? Of course Toledo is not a good team. You know that.
How do I explain UM losing to Toledo 3 years ago, under a different coach? I think we "sucked." How do you explain not being able to score HALF as many points against OSU than Toledo THIS YEAR?
(I am not into the transitive property of A>B and B>C, so A>C. I think that is wrong. but, we should look at how our teams compare based on whether they do better or worse than an average team against the same competition. There is limited data, but MSU's offense underperformed against OSU, based on how OSU has done in other games.
Michigan fans may be concerned about Denard's passing, which has been "hit and miss" - pun intended, but MSU has to be sorry about their lack of a run game and multiple bad decisions by Cousins. Right now, UM has the better offense by a good amount. As for defense, I think that MSU and UM have given up the same number of points on average this year and both held ND to the same score (the only really good offense both faced). I would say they are a wash, but even if the Spartans have a SLIGHTLY better defense (as I am sure you will argue) that does not make up for the big difference in the two offenses. So, UM seems to have an edge...but add in homefield advantage for MSU and....well, it should be a really close/good game.)
If MSU had an above average offense, I would think that MSU would win by about 7 points....but they decidedly do not.
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Denard just doesn't have very good mechanics when throwing the ball. Removing abscess isn't going to make him Joe Montana or Dan Marino.
If you know anything about abscess, you know how uncomfortable it is and how it would easily make his mechanics shaky at best. Having to deal with that in your throwing elbow could cause your throwing motion to be out of sync.
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Michigan put up 35 on a Top 25 defense? Wow.
And you think OSU was a top 25 defense heading into the MSU game? They gave up 22 to Toledo, 24 to a bad Miami team and 17 to a bad Colorado team? Just because they shut out the Zips, they have a good defense?
And, you guys only put up 10 on that OSU defense?
I can buy arguments about MSU's defense being good this year. I can understand the importance of homefield and Dantonio's obsession with beating UM being factors in MSU's favor..... I can buy almost any pro-MSU argument EXCEPT that MSU has a good offense...or even average offense for the B10.
5 games in and we know that is not the case.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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