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Jandy said...
I think this is a good question, unfortunately I am ill-equipped to answer it.
My GUESS would be that Hoke utilizes a relatively similar strategy to what happened with Jones. The thing with UM is that there is going to be a lot more naturally applied pressure to 'hold your spot' (i.e. - commit) due to the ability of UM to get big-time recruits. Hoke being open to recruits about this is not an issue.
My personal, honest opinion is that there isn't anything unethical about Hoke's recruiting methods. I do sometimes wonder how he does it (particularly with situations like Kugler), but I don't think he's breaking any rules. I really wish I was a highly touted recruit for a day, just to see, b/c it is beyond intriguing to me how Hoke has done what he has done so far in some situations.
That all having been said, I wonder who Hoke's snakeoil supplier is...
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The line issues you speak off are nothing worse than they were last year. Our starting OL is going to be good. Our depth on the OL is bad. We will probably be ok through our 8th OL but after that it gets sticky. So if we have more than 3 guys go down or both tackles we would be in trouble. Other than that we are fine on the OL. We just didn't have the depth to run a true spring game.
The Defensive line depth is not actually that bad at all. We will probably be able to go 8 deep there regularly.
Our kicker Gibbons was good last year. He is solid from 40 yards and in. Longer than 40yds and our kicking is dicey.
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Okay, let me clarify.
What awards has he won that could not have been won by, say, Montee Ball?
Example: All-B1G 1st team QB.
I know I'm walking in dangerous territory, with a match just waiting for a flame to light it, but I'm really not trying to. I think part of the perception issues with Denard is how the QB position is viewed by different people. Denard has won plenty of phenomenal awards for an offensive player, but NOBODY is denying that he is a great offensive threat. People are debating his skills at QB, which would need to be argued by QB awards.
Please don't flame this, I'm not trying to irritate you. I'm just openly discussing what can be a touchy subject.
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Dick's Fake Eye said...
Saw the Will Gholston interview on ESPN. Dude says he's ready to take over the defense. When asked about Michigan, he rolled his eyes a little. I think Big Will has a chip on his shoulder about all the BS that occured in the last match up. He was emphatic about winning this upcoming game.
UM - you done ticked off Will Gholston! Not a good plan. This game is gonna be a war.
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Dick's Fake Eye said...
Saw the Will Gholston interview on ESPN. Dude says he's ready to take over the defense. When asked about Michigan, he rolled his eyes a little. I think Big Will has a chip on his shoulder about all the BS that occured in the last match up. He was emphatic about winning this upcoming game.
UM - you done ticked off Will Gholston! Not a good plan. This game is gonna be a war.
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Dick's Fake Eye said...
Saw the Will Gholston interview on ESPN. Dude says he's ready to take over the defense. When asked about Michigan, he rolled his eyes a little. I think Big Will has a chip on his shoulder about all the BS that occured in the last match up. He was emphatic about winning this upcoming game.
UM - you done ticked off Will Gholston! Not a good plan. This game is gonna be a war.
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Dick's Fake Eye said...
Saw the Will Gholston interview on ESPN. Dude says he's ready to take over the defense. When asked about Michigan, he rolled his eyes a little. I think Big Will has a chip on his shoulder about all the BS that occured in the last match up. He was emphatic about winning this upcoming game.
UM - you done ticked off Will Gholston! Not a good plan. This game is gonna be a war.
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Jandy said...
Is it fair to say that depth is the concern on the OL, and that the abilities of the starters would be the concern on the DL?
Campbell, for instance, has reportedly been improving steadily, but I know there have been consistency questions. As he is a projected starter, there might be some questions about that?
I honestly think that this is a phenomenal spot for UM to be in, considering where RR left things. Consider the fact that UM has 3 DL coaches, and you have to like that you have bodies with potential along the DL, just waiting for Hoke/Mattison/Montgomery to mold them.
Conversely, the OL's strongest position are the tackles, which are arguably the most important. The interior might struggle on occasion, but UM's offense isn't really designed for an up-the-gut attack, so how much of a concern can this ultimately be?
I have been impressed with Hoke thus far, let's see how well he continues the team's improvement throughout the year.
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Jandy said...
Okay, let me clarify.
What awards has he won that could not have been won by, say, Montee Ball?
Example: All-B1G 1st team QB.
I know I'm walking in dangerous territory, with a match just waiting for a flame to light it, but I'm really not trying to. I think part of the perception issues with Denard is how the QB position is viewed by different people.
Denard has won plenty of phenomenal awards for an offensive player, but NOBODY is denying that he is a great offensive threat.
People are debating his skills at QB, which would need to be argued by QB awards.Please don't flame this, I'm not trying to irritate you. I'm just openly discussing what can be a touchy subject.
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mriderblue12 said...
Agreed ESPN is a couple tiers below all the other sites in recruiting rankings IMO. I do think it helps being ranked highly on ESPN for National perception though.
People who are just casual fans, and don't follow recruiting will probably never see 247's rankings, or scouts, etc. So having ESPN put it on their website and TV come signing day probably helps in terms of raising the profile of the program.
It doesn't hurt to have ESPN say you have the #1 class to a bunch of future parents, or athletes, regardless of how accurate their rankings are.
Top talent draws top talent.
(stole that point from NoVaNoles BTW)
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Dick's Fake Eye said...
Saw the Will Gholston interview on ESPN. Dude says he's ready to take over the defense. When asked about Michigan, he rolled his eyes a little. I think Big Will has a chip on his shoulder about all the BS that occured in the last match up. He was emphatic about winning this upcoming game.
UM - you done ticked off Will Gholston! Not a good plan. This game is gonna be a war.
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MrWoodson said...
Your definition of QB is too narrow. Tim Tebow was a great college QB. So were Tony Rice, Eric Crouch and Michael Vick. And so is Denard. Get over it. And you still haven't answered my question - what B10 and national awards has Kirk Cousins won?
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