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The Official Michigan, MSU, and 1 Random Guy from Arky Thread

  • saleemyas3 said...

    I expect us to go 11-3 or 12-2, depending on who's playing in the rosebowl against us stir

    3 losses? To who? You're nuts. I don't see one team on the schedule that can beat us next year. You must not be a real Spartan. 12-0 baby. Then we'll shove it up Saban's rear by 35 for another NC.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    And if you believe MSU will win more than 7 games this year, so are you.

    We've got woodsons 7 win ceiling in stone, this will be a fun one to bump in 6 months if he's still around.

    swizbeatz

  • swizbeatz said...

    We've got woodsons 7 win ceiling in stone, this will be a fun one to bump in 6 months if he's still around.

    Meh, it's a prediction. I predict Michigan only wins three. If they bump this in late October when they finally get 4 I'll just say my bad.

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  • Dick's Fake Eye said...

    MSU was down 16-0 at the half, so the offensive game plan "opened up". Got that Willy?

    lol MSU had 29 rushing attempts and averaged 2.5 yards per rush against Georgia. As Rocky likes to point out Georgia only had 1 sack in that game so it's not like sacks factored into that a lot. I don't think the score of the game had a whole lot to do with MSU's poor rushing attack in the Georgia game.

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  • WillyWolverine said...

    lol MSU had 29 rushing attempts and averaged 2.5 yards per rush against Georgia. As Rocky likes to point out Georgia only had 1 sack in that game so it's not like sacks factored into that a lot. I don't think the score of the game had a whole lot to do with MSU's poor rushing attack in the Georgia game.

    We were getting our ass kicked like I hadn't seen since Alabama up front. Anyone who says otherwise wasn't watching. Roushar was brilliant at halftime. We started using their aggressiveness against them. Quick bubble screens, long handoffs via flares to get guys in space and let them run. Quicker pace play calling, getting them tired. Then our defense made plays. Then we started doing better on the line when they got tired. That first half however was an ass whipping for our line. Stats be damned

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  • Question for the UM fans (no flame):

    I'm curious about UM and the recruitment of JUCOs. I've heard UM fans claim that it's because of admissions requirements set by the university. Is that actually the case? Or is it simply that UM doesn't want/need to go after such kids? For example, OSU recruits at a very high level just like UM, but they don't go after JUCOs either. But UM is (like every other B10 school not located in Evanston) not afraid to recruit guys with questionable academic credentials. So what's the real reason why UM avoids recruiting JUCOs? TIA.

    Final Countdown

  • Final Countdown said...

    Question for the UM fans (no flame):

    I'm curious about UM and the recruitment of JUCOs. I've heard UM fans claim that it's because of admissions requirements set by the university. Is that actually the case? Or is it simply that UM doesn't want/need to go after such kids? For example, OSU recruits at a very high level just like UM, but they don't go after JUCOs either. But UM is (like every other B10 school not located in Evanston) not afraid to recruit guys with questionable academic credentials. So what's the real reason why UM avoids recruiting JUCOs? TIA.

    Don't most of their fans go to JUCO's ?

    lol.

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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  • Final Countdown said...

    Question for the UM fans (no flame):

    I'm curious about UM and the recruitment of JUCOs. I've heard UM fans claim that it's because of admissions requirements set by the university. Is that actually the case? Or is it simply that UM doesn't want/need to go after such kids? For example, OSU recruits at a very high level just like UM, but they don't go after JUCOs either. But UM is (like every other B10 school not located in Evanston) not afraid to recruit guys with questionable academic credentials. So what's the real reason why UM avoids recruiting JUCOs? TIA.

    I believe it is more because of the way classes transfer to UM. Most of the time when a player goes to a JUCO it is mainly because they couldn't get into a D1 college, like UM, because of their highschool grade. UM won't take their grades from their JUCO, therefore, we can't admit them. Even though, they have the grades to get into UM from their JUCO.

    If that makes sense lol

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  • Hoffelcopter said...

    I believe it is more because of the way classes transfer to UM. Most of the time when a player goes to a JUCO it is mainly because they couldn't get into a D1 college, like UM, because of their highschool grade. UM won't take their grades from their JUCO, therefore, we can't admit them. Even though, they have the grades to get into UM from their JUCO.

    If that makes sense lol

    So is it the transferability of the credits or the grades? I didn't think grades transferred for any college applicant?

    Final Countdown

  • Final Countdown said...

    So is it the transferability of the credits or the grades? I didn't think grades transferred for any college applicant?

    This is just what I think why. I think they take GPA into consideration, not the grades of each individual class. But I think the grade issue from the JUCO is moot, because UM won't generally take the credits, so they would just end up having to go off of their highschool transcript. They do in some rare cases, we have had JUCOs before. But very few.

    I know there is more to it, I don't know exactly why. But I think I got the gist of it.

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  • Take it FWIW, supposedly Burbridge is looking very good to qualify.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Take it FWIW, supposedly Burbridge is looking very good to qualify.

    thumbsup Good to hear.

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  • WillyWolverine said...

    lol MSU had 29 rushing attempts and averaged 2.5 yards per rush against Georgia. As Rocky likes to point out Georgia only had 1 sack in that game so it's not like sacks factored into that a lot. I don't think the score of the game had a whole lot to do with MSU's poor rushing attack in the Georgia game.

    If we are going to play this game, let's discuss the sugar bowl. Michigan's vaunted, Denard led rushing attacked racked up an impressive 56 yards on the ground and like 180 total yards; like a third of which I am pretty sure came on a single armpunt in which his receiver completely bailed him out.

    Michigan's offense ain't shit, apparently.

    This post was edited by All Ages Shows on 6/16/2012 at 1:28 PM

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  • WillyWolverine said...

    I still maintain the rush game improved because the defenses you faced were not good. MSU had less than 100 yds rushing against a good Rush D in Georgia. Are you just going to ignore that game?

    Not at all.. UGA's run D was nasty that game..

    But how many games this year is MSU going to face an UGA like defense? Answer: Not until the bowl game (or maybe PSU in the B1G Title game).

    So while you can say the rush game improved because the D's MSU faced weren't good, that's fine. But MSU will be going against the same defenses this year as they ran well again last year, so I don't see how they won't run the ball with any success, as you've already admitted they ran the ball well (just against bad defenses) and MSU will still be facing those bad defenses again in 2012, just this time, for the most part, in Spartan Stadium

    copemoney0

  • michagain said...

    Yes, about 2 months ago, I was in the hospital for about a week, then layed up at home for 2 more weeks. I had been checking the site out for a couple months but only breezing through. When I was in the hospital, I read through this entire thread. The morphine wasnt enough, had to bump it up to a double dose of delodid (spelling?) lol.

    998 pages... wow!

    copemoney0

  • Wolverines89 said...

    state winning 11 to 12 games roflmao no kork coupons, b.j, keshawn, worthy. a TE and 2 other WR that i cant name. defense wins games, but you need to score to win also. you think you can just hand it off to bell 50 times and dont think your freshman wr's are gonna come in and be sammy watkins. on a side note i'll be rooting for sparty against osu.

    Yes. because teams clearly cannot win with a new QB and a couple new WR's

    I suppose UM is screwed next year with Denard and Roundtree leaving..

    copemoney0

  • All Ages Shows said...

    If we are going to play this game, let's discuss the sugar bowl. Michigan's vaunted, Denard led rushing attacked racked up an impressive 56 yards on the ground and like 180 total yards; like a third of which I am pretty sure came on a single armpunt in which his receiver completely bailed him out.

    Michigan's offense ain't shit, apparently.

    You obviously need to read what i was responding to. It had nothing to do with Michigan. A MSU poster was trying to use the performance of MSU's run game in the later half of the season as proof they will be good this year. I brought up the fact that the run defenses weren't very good except for Georgia and that MSU did not perform well on the ground in that game. That is all.

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Not at all.. UGA's run D was nasty that game..

    But how many games this year is MSU going to face an UGA like defense? Answer: Not until the bowl game (or maybe PSU in the B1G Title game).

    So while you can say the rush game improved because the D's MSU faced weren't good, that's fine. But MSU will be going against the same defenses this year as they ran well again last year, so I don't see how they won't run the ball with any success, as you've already admitted they ran the ball well (just against bad defenses) and MSU will still be facing those bad defenses again in 2012, just this time, for the most part, in Spartan Stadium

    You are leaving out the first half of the season though. MSU didn't run well then. You still have to play a lot of those teams as well. Not to mention who says the defenses will be the same?

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  • Nearing 1,000 pages for your 3rd or 4th biggest rival.

    Crazy. You guys must have lie a 4,000 page thread with OSU and ND somewhere. Maybe even Minnesota or Nebraska too. How do you UM fans do it?

    Harry Callahan

  • Harry Callahan said...

    Nearing 1,000 pages for your 3rd or 4th biggest rival.

    Crazy. You guys must have lie a 4,000 page thread with OSU and ND somewhere. Maybe even Minnesota or Nebraska too. How do you UM fans do it?

    Awww.. How cute. The kid's finished up his chores and now he wants to hang with the big people.

    If you're good, maybe mommy will give you an extra scoop of ice cream before she puts you to bed tonight.

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    Due51

  • So I guess we offered '15 QB Michael O'Connor today. He's camping at UM tomorrow. Any chance you guys offer?

    This post was edited by Rocket_Play on 6/16/2012 at 4:14 PM

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    So I guess we offered '15 QB Michael O'Connor today. He's camping at UM tomorrow. Any chance you guys offer?

    I have no idea how early Hoke offers kids. I know for '15 Cass Tech has the Campbell kid who is a really good prospect as well. I wouldn't be suprised to see O'Connor get an offer at some point though.

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  • Due51 said...

    Awww.. How cute. The kid's finished up his chores and now he wants to hang with the big people.

    If you're good, maybe mommy will give you an extra scoop of ice cream before she puts you to bed tonight.

    There are big people in this thread? Where?

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  • Due51 said...

    Awww.. How cute. The kid's finished up his chores and now he wants to hang with the big people.

    If you're good, maybe mommy will give you an extra scoop of ice cream before she puts you to bed tonight.

    Nah, been studying for FAR. CPA exam is a bitch.

    I haven't lived with my mom since I was 17. I'm not a Wal*Verine.

    Harry Callahan

  • Rocket_Play said...

    So I guess we offered '15 QB Michael O'Connor today. He's camping at UM tomorrow. Any chance you guys offer?

    Sounds like he really performed well at the latest camp. Won't be shocked to see Michigan offer him in the future, but when I do not know.

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