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FYI, we have a really good team this year. I'm not being a sunshine blower when I say our defense has potential to be really special this year. We held FAU to 1 first down this weekend.
I also think my assessment for the Michigan game that I made about Brian Kelly applies to our game as well, I haven't seen anything out of him yet that tells me he can win a game like this. He's yelled at his players for screwing up, when is he going to start being accountable for the poor performances? If they go 0-3 that'll probably happen.
Can ND win this game? With a player like Michael Floyd the answer is yes, but IMO I think we have a better team on both sides of the ball.
My main concern is our special teams fg kicking but other than that our OL looked greatly improved. So that's my biggest question mark at this point.
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xxmgobluexx said...
MSU is solid, it not that I think MSU is trash, I think ND is better than they have showed so far.
Kelly has won NC's through a playoff system already, winning a regular season game takes a backseat to that.
I've heard that line for the last 20 years or so about us playing against ND. So many times I've heard once ND works out a few kinks they should be able to handle the Spartans. Or ND is going to be tough this year. I hear these reasons why they should take us down all the time. Our record proves that we play them well no matter what the press, Vegas lines or fans think should happen. One year during the Nick Saban era I was told that Bob Davies was out recruiting State and that now he has "his" players ND should be back on track. We trucked them by 40 points before the first half.
Even during the JLS and BW eras which were abysmal the one positive note is that we would still beat ND.
There's definitely an intangible factor here which is MSU plays inspired ball against ND.
This post was edited by steveschneider on 9/11/2011 at 7:23 PM
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Big M said...
I don't know how much you can possibly tell from your first 2 games. Your board was panicked after YSU and now thinks MSU is unbeatable after beating a horrible team like you're supposed to.
I think ND could very easily win the game, but they just cannot commit turnovers like they have been doing.
Should be fascinating..I think ND is a bit better than MSU fans are thinking. They have some real talent and IMO are better on the lines than MSU.
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Macks said...
I think they're in the middle. FAU isn't very good, but people are also underrating our defense. YSU scored ridiculous amounts of points last year and they had the perfect system against our defense (quick release for short gains). Holding them to 6 points isn't that bad, especially with the lone TD being scored against a blown coverage by a RS-FR CB who splits his time at WR and was in his first real game in college.
The team looked very sloppy against YSU but they had a good gameplan and we did come out a bit flat. When they established a rhythm in the second half they looked pretty good. Kirk is very accurate and BJ is in a catching frenzy. Dantonio's family matters may have also played a role.
And no offense, but holding a Division I team to ONE first down all game is impressive no matter who the opponent was.
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Onto the ND game:
They can definitely win. However I think ND have to start strong. If they let Kirk and BJ dictate the game on offense early, then I think the crowd becomes a non-factor and the team loses hope. Our defensive will be tested here. I expect Floyd to be bracketed by Adams and Robinson with Adams and Dennard covering the rest of the field with LB help. Rees has shown a propensity to be very good when unpressured and absolutely terrible when he's rushed. If the d-line can get good penetration then we can force a few errant throws to Floyd. Now, he's a elite WR so he'll get his share, but Adams is arguably the best cover corner we've had in the MD era and Robinson is no slouch.
This game comes down to two things: 1) ND's mentality and 2) Execution
I'll also add #4 better learn how to cover a receiver if they hope to win.
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Macks said...
I heard it was a minor toe injury and they iced it and pulled him out as a precaution. He should be good for the next game. Nick Hill has looked really solid to be honest. I hope Fowler and Jackson are back....but i'm not sure if I want to rush Jackson back from injury for a big game like this. Might be better to go with Treadwell for the sake of gelling.
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steveschneider said...
See my answer above to xxmgobluexx.
Did you watch the FAU MSU game? FAU is terrible, but it's clear we improved greatly.
We stopped with the dumb penalties on both sides of the ball, those penalties had nothing to do with who we were playing. Those penalties were just mental mistakes that were very costly against YSU.
We also improved our tackling technique. Both the OL and DL play looked better to me, but it could of been just the benefit of playing a crappy team. I think you're wrong about our DL they are going to be effective against ND, but the OL may struggle but to me they looked greatly improved.
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xxmgobluexx said...
No problem, I don't imagine I would be posting much over there until Michigan/MSU week anyway.
I might be watching the game with some MSU fans. I actually pull for MSU to win this game every year, I hate ND and I like for the B1G to win every game they play out of conference.
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