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The Official UVa-VT Rivalry Thread (as discussed on both boards)

  • HNB said...

    I have never thought it would last forever, and am surprised it has lasted this long, if only Frank treated Bowl games like he does beating UVA. I was on your board last time we lost to you, and we should have lost to you the year before that but the wind and cold killed Shaub and your passing game.

    You all may be upgrading your talent but London is as good at managing RS as he is the clock so I just don't think you all are upgrading at the level you think you are. We are recruiting better than you all since London arrived and we are RS much better meaning that talent we are bringing in will be that much better with a 5th year vs your players freshmen years. Q Moore should have never been played this year, as I said on the first few pages, he also isn't a 3 or 4 year and done guy so he would have been a really good 5th year player. VT is widening the talent gap over UVA, we will have 6 top 250 or better players joining our D alone next year, 3 RS and 3 TFr, if the TFr don't RS.

    I'll agree with you 100% on BBall, it is really good to watch these very good young coaches and their teams. I'm a huge fan of the way both guys are coaching to their talents, and coach to the talent they will be able to attract and keep, DL wasn't that guy much like London isn't. Our guys are playing with confidence they never did with Goon.

    I think for the first time in probably 5-7 years the talent gap is no longer widening. 2011 was better for us than you, 2012 was probably a draw, 2013 is a draw/slight Tech advantage. This is a huge improvement to Groh who basically abandoned VA in his last few years. Virginia is deep enough to sustain 2 good teams (like Alabama for example)..I hope they give London more time, because his recruiting is great (both when he was a DC and now as HC). Also, I might be delusional, but I feel like Beamer is starting to get old, this season was inexcusable given your "NFL caliber" QB..that being said I will admit your coaching has been very good the last few years

    kezki

  • HNB said...

    You can't argue sanctioned and non sanctioned if we can't argue rev vs non rev.

    I'm guessing there are as many or more schools that compete in bass fishing as there are that compete in rowing and Lax.

    There are 81 NCAA Divison 1 rowing programs. 61 Lax teams and that number is growing. 199 Div. 1 soccer programs.

    JoeHoo

  • DC-Hokie88 said...

    I also played that. I was a pro. Had a famous lob shot that the goalie just helplessly watched as it went over his head.

    It was awesome seeing some freakish athletes lose all athletic ability once they hit the water.

    I couldn;t ever get the inner tube onto my horse.

    JoeHoo

  • JoeHoo said...

    There are 81 NCAA Divison 1 rowing programs. 61 Lax teams and that number is growing. 199 Div. 1 soccer programs.

    I appreciate the Soccer titles. My brother was manager at UVA when they won 4 in a row with Bruce Arena. Those teams were nasty back in the early 90s

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  • What happen the last ten years is va tech became the cool school to attend and as kids saw their teammates have success they jump on the opportunity to b next. Froh had a bad rep with coaches in the state so u add tht up and u get less talent. The one thng Groh did was improve his players skills but never made sure his offense was on the same levek as his defense.

    Fast forward now and coaches and players love uva and see the redneck tht most of your r. Making news about the godfather, london cheating, it a race thng show a fan vase tht c uva taking their spot. I mean some of the thngs tour dudes say bout kids is criminal. I und to b passionate but tu fo this low is sad. If london cn get his onfield shet right we will compete nd mayb dominate your rednecks. So get ready for some stiif coomp cus uva is on the rise. How tht raleighhoo

    This post was edited by tugard on 12/10/2012 at 6:05 PM

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  • JoeHoo said...

    There are 81 NCAA Divison 1 rowing programs. 61 Lax teams and that number is growing. 199 Div. 1 soccer programs.

    you forgot to mention that there are no Div 1 bass fishing teams.

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  • tugard said...

    What happen the last ten years is va tech became the cool school to attend and as kids saw their teammates have success they jump on the opportunity to b next. Froh had a bad rep with coaches in the state so u add tht up and u get less talent. The one thng Groh did was improve his players skills but never made sure his offense was on the same levek as his defense.

    Fast forward now and coaches and players love uva and see the redneck tht most of your r. Making news about the godfather, london cheating, it a race thng show a fan vase tht c uva taking their spot. I mean some of the thngs tour dudes say bout kids is criminal. I und to b passionate but tu fo this low is sad. If london cn get his onfield shet right we will compete nd mayb dominate your rednecks. So get ready for some stiif coomp cus uva is on the rise. How tht raleighhoo

    God that was painful to decipher.

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  • kezki said...

    I think for the first time in probably 5-7 years the talent gap is no longer widening. 2011 was better for us than you, 2012 was probably a draw, 2013 is a draw/slight Tech advantage. This is a huge improvement to Groh who basically abandoned VA in his last few years. Virginia is deep enough to sustain 2 good teams (like Alabama for example)..I hope they give London more time, because his recruiting is great (both when he was a DC and now as HC). Also, I might be delusional, but I feel like Beamer is starting to get old, this season was inexcusable given your "NFL caliber" QB..that being said I will admit your coaching has been very good the last few years

    2012 was a draw? Man if that's not a homer statement. VT has had better classes the last 2 years. If you lose Harris, it'll be a huge gap as well.

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  • tugard said...

    What happen the last ten years is va tech became the cool school to attend and as kids saw their teammates have success they jump on the opportunity to b next. Froh had a bad rep with coaches in the state so u add tht up and u get less talent. The one thng Groh did was improve his players skills but never made sure his offense was on the same levek as his defense.

    Fast forward now and coaches and players love uva and see the redneck tht most of your r. Making news about the godfather, london cheating, it a race thng show a fan vase tht c uva taking their spot. I mean some of the thngs tour dudes say bout kids is criminal. I und to b passionate but tu fo this low is sad. If london cn get his onfield shet right we will compete nd mayb dominate your rednecks. So get ready for some stiif coomp cus uva is on the rise. How tht raleighhoo

    Is your spell checker broke? For the love of god I rather beat my head against a wall than try to read what the hell your babbling about.

    UVA football is getting more talent within the program but the coaches your admin continues to hire is terrible, London is a terrible coach, the administration has failed tremendously with the last 2 hires. London embarrasses me with his antics on the sideline and his lack of knowledge of in game situations and program management, not to mention the horrendous firing of Jim Reid?? London is a bonafide idiot.

    Making news of the Godfather? I guess you missed the threads over on Va Preps that were started by NON Hokies complaining about the Godfather and his goons, not to mention the classic twitter outburst by Lex Rayner of the Breds and his anti-Hokie antics. Chip We$t is very friendly with the sleezebags.

    And please STFU, UVA is NOT on the rise, especially with London at the helm. If London is smart he'll surround himself with great assistants that can get the job done. While we're at it someone please smack Dex in the back of the head so his hat will go on straight.

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  • 11VT12 said...

    God that was painful to decipher.

    we aren't really going to list arrest records are we?

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  • HOOSINSC said...

    we aren't really going to list arrest records are we?

    Its more of an attack on the elitist attitude that seems to plague certain Hoo faithful. I'm sure you know what I am talking about.

    This post was edited by 11VT12 on 12/10/2012 at 7:27 PM

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  • Va's-Finest said...

    Is your spell checker broke? For the love of god I rather beat my head against a wall than try to read what the hell your babbling about.

    UVA football is getting more talent within the program but the coaches your admin continues to hire is terrible, London is a terrible coach, the administration has failed tremendously with the last 2 hires. London embarrasses me with his antics on the sideline and his lack of knowledge of in game situations and program management, not to mention the horrendous firing of Jim Reid?? London is a bonafide idiot.

    Making news of the Godfather? I guess you missed the threads over on Va Preps that were started by NON Hokies complaining about the Godfather and his goons, not to mention the classic twitter outburst by Lex Rayner of the Breds and his anti-Hokie antics. Chip We$t is very friendly with the sleezebags.

    And please STFU, UVA is NOT on the rise, especially with London at the helm. If London is smart he'll surround himself with great assistants that can get the job done. While we're at it someone please smack Dex in the back of the head so his hat will go on straight.

    toot

    Uva is not on the rise right. Accordin to u we have a coach tht cant coach and behave poorrly on the sideline. Wee have an administration tht has no idea but it took a pass interference at your stadium to beat this horrible team u claim. I dnt knw where the godfather antics started but i knw who fed into it and where it ended and prob still goin on. The kids in tidewater see who your program is now. Your coaches dnt care or relate to players like ours. Because we getting recruits we have to b cheating. I mean everybody shld want to attend a school tht is numb one in nothing. Sports or academics. So i wont shut the fuck up and if u want me to let meet up and u try fam.

    tugard

  • tugard said...

    Uva is not on the rise right. Accordin to u we have a coach tht cant coach and behave poorrly on the sideline. Wee have an administration tht has no idea but it took a pass interference at your stadium to beat this horrible team u claim. I dnt knw where the godfather antics started but i knw who fed into it and where it ended and prob still goin on. The kids in tidewater see who your program is now. Your coaches dnt care or relate to players like ours. Because we getting recruits we have to b cheating. I mean everybody shld want to attend a school tht is numb one in nothing. Sports or academics. So i wont shut the fuck up and if u want me to let meet up and u try fam.

    Here's CMLs problem. Even if he pulls every recruit (top to bottom) from the Tidewater he still won't have enough talent to win consistently. Groh decided to get top talent out of state and that worked a little. ML is looking at only the 757 and that has kinda worked as well. You need to recruit STATEWIDE. You can't just focus on the 757, it's not enough talent. And obviously the kids outside of the Tidewater see what UVAs program is now considering you're losing recruits left and right.

    ML is a mirror of Groh (actually Groh started off better). Starts strong and fades until you realize he can't coach and no one is buying his BS.

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  • 11VT12 said...

    Its more of an attack on the elitist attitude that seems to plague certain Hoo faithful. I'm sure you know what I am talking about.

    Oh of course, but you did use it in response to tugard.

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  • tugard said...

    So i wont shut the fuck up and if u want me to let meet up and u try fam.

    lol

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  • HOOSINSC said...

    Oh of course, but you did use it in response to tugard.

    Nope, this has always been my sig. You're just implying that since tugard has the IQ of a toaster strudel, that he must be a criminal. But seriously, if the man can't even spell "should", he probably can't pull off much of a heist.

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  • UVAs only class has only slightly better in Londons tenure and that one is debateable, that you had to play many of them before they were ready negated any possible advantage, 12 and 13 were VT wins, 12 isn't close when you factor in RSing players. 13 will be a blow out if you lose a player or 2...and in 13 we got the 2 top QBs on our board, that is huge. 14 might be good or not for both of us. All we know so far is that we have 4 very good player so far, I'll say at least 2 will be 4*. 14 for you all certainly doesn't look good w your firings, unhappy players, and a coach that will be listed on all preseason hit lists

    This post was edited by HNB on 12/10/2012 at 8:47 PM

    HNB

  • Be careful, tugs has a few close friends that will get on you, I mean after you

    HNB

  • 11VT12 said...

    Nope, this has always been my sig. You're just implying that since tugard has the IQ of a toaster strudel, that he must be a criminal. But seriously, if the man can't even spell "should", he probably can't pull off much of a heist.

    I cant spell or do a heist but the people in my click can.

    tugard

  • On the bright side, not many people saw how bad you were this year:

    @slmandel: RT @jonsol: CFB regular-season attendance dips to lowest average since 2003. See crowds for every FBS team. http://t.co/xJnhcFAs

    College football regular-season attendance dips to lowest average since 2003

    See where every Football Bowl Subdivision team ranked in 2012 attendance and whether it gained or lost fans from 2011.

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    HNB

  • HNB said...

    On the bright side, not many people saw how bad you were this year:

    @slmandel: RT @jonsol: CFB regular-season attendance dips to lowest average since 2003. See crowds for every FBS team. http://t.co/xJnhcFAs

    Wowww, ECU had a higher average attendance than UVA. That is pathetic.

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  • tugard said...

    What happen the last ten years is va tech became the cool school to attend and as kids saw their teammates have success they jump on the opportunity to b next. Froh had a bad rep with coaches in the state so u add tht up and u get less talent. The one thng Groh did was improve his players skills but never made sure his offense was on the same levek as his defense.

    Fast forward now and coaches and players love uva and see the redneck tht most of your r. Making news about the godfather, london cheating, it a race thng show a fan vase tht c uva taking their spot. I mean some of the thngs tour dudes say bout kids is criminal. I und to b passionate but tu fo this low is sad. If london cn get his onfield shet right we will compete nd mayb dominate your rednecks. So get ready for some stiif coomp cus uva is on the rise. How tht raleighhoo

    You da man Tu....

    raleighoo

  • tugard said...

    Uva is not on the rise right. Accordin to u we have a coach tht cant coach and behave poorrly on the sideline. Wee have an administration tht has no idea but it took a pass interference at your stadium to beat this horrible team u claim. I dnt knw where the godfather antics started but i knw who fed into it and where it ended and prob still goin on. The kids in tidewater see who your program is now. Your coaches dnt care or relate to players like ours. Because we getting recruits we have to b cheating. I mean everybody shld want to attend a school tht is numb one in nothing. Sports or academics. So i wont shut the fuck up and if u want me to let meet up and u try fam.

    Once again UVA is not on the rise, more talent-check, Groh could coach circles around London, Groh just pissed everyone off due to his arrogance which caused turmoil within the program and strained relationships with HS coaches.... London came in repping the 757 from the get go, his salesmanship and relationships in the area have resulted in good recruits, but you can't win with strictly 757 recruits not to mention VT is still getting good prospects from the area as well. The talent in the 757 has become a lil watered down from about 5 years ago, the rest of the state had improved dramatically, especially in the Richmond area and parts of NOVA so VT is just fine. Lastly I'm not part of your family so don't suggest that I am..

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  • tugard said...

    I cant spell or do a heist but the people in my click can.

    Awesome

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