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The Official UVa-VT Rivalry Thread (as discussed on both boards)

  • Hokie5284 said...

    Has UVA ever had a game where both teams were ranked top 5? Honest question

    Go up another # and say both teams ranked top 6 and the honest answer is yes.

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    PlayaHtr

  • Hokie5284 said...

    Yup. just check Good Counsel, all of those kids going to the same school to stay together.

    It's not just about HS. This particular group has been playing together since they were little.

    steelcav

  • HNB said...

    You really do have your head in the sand if this is what you think...Moore doesn't like what is going on down here.

    What I love is that you love you some West and then look down on other schools and how they recruit, but you need a photo right, hey Calapari is clean too? hey have an audience with now because there is talent down here, but in getting that talent there is a price.

    Do you honestly know Coach Moore? Because he posts on The Grounds. Just doesn't go by Coach Moore, and I have never seen him say anything like what you are insinuating, and he has posted as recently as last week.

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  • PlayaHtr said...

    Go up another # and say both teams ranked top 6 and the honest answer is yes.

    Which game was that? Did it turn out better for you than our #3 vs #5 game did?

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  • steelcav said...

    It's not just about HS. This particular group has been playing together since they were little.

    I know its about 7v7 aka AAU as well, however it very rarely works out where kids that say they want to play together in college actually do, especially when its more than 2. Unless of course you waste a scholarship on a 1AA level kid to land them.

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  • Va's-Finest said...

    I'm sorry, let me clarify. At least we get to play in big games and majority of the time we are in the game until the end. There are a few exceptions though.

    And let me be clear. We all like to banter back and forth in this thread, it is what it is for. There is nothing myself nor anyone can say that can erase the success that Va Tech football has had over the last twenty years. No one can deny the support your fans have for their team. You have had a great run. Rivalries are the fuel of college sports. Look at Duke and Carolina Basketball, Ohio State, Michigan football etc.. The list goes on. UVA nor Tech will ever be the best they can be as programs without each other. UVA could win 10 games a year and yet be defeated each of those years byTech and the fans would still be unhappy and vice versa. You have beaten UVA nine years in a row but what has that gotten you. Bragging rights for sure but no national recognition. The best thing that can happen for us all is that we both be at the top of our games. Then see who beats the slobbersnot out of the other. Then those bragging rights will mean much more, the nation will watch, and both programs will be elevated. The success of one adds to the success of the other. As it stands UVA has brought very little to this rivalry for the last decade. LSU, Alabama and OSU, Michigan are rivalries with national implications. Our rivalry should produce more than just bragging rights. Until there are TWO teams that put a winner on the field we will both be robbed of what could be. Tech has done their part, now it is time for UVA to do theirs. Both programs will be better for it.

    raleighoo

  • PlayaHtr said...

    Didn't sound discourging but the PM is pretty clear it will be UVA.

    Have you really not realized yet that nobody believes you....about anything.

    BeachHokie

  • BeachHokie said...

    Have you really not realized yet that nobody believes you....about anything.

    Did it ever occur to you that I don't give a shit what you or any other Hokie on these boards think. Don't be a Hater, that's my job!!

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  • BeachHokie said...

    Have you really not realized yet that nobody believes you....about anything.

    And like I told the other doubter, prove that I've been wrong about anything I've said, he couldn't and you can't either.

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  • raleighoo said...

    And let me be clear. We all like to banter back and forth in this thread, it is what it is for. There is nothing myself nor anyone can say that can erase the success that Va Tech football has had over the last twenty years. No one can deny the support your fans have for their team. You have had a great run. Rivalries are the fuel of college sports. Look at Duke and Carolina Basketball, Ohio State, Michigan football etc.. The list goes on. UVA nor Tech will ever be the best they can be as programs without each other. UVA could win 10 games a year and yet be defeated each of those years byTech and the fans would still be unhappy and vice versa. You have beaten UVA nine years in a row but what has that gotten you. Bragging rights for sure but no national recognition. The best thing that can happen for us all is that we both be at the top of our games. Then see who beats the slobbersnot out of the other. Then those bragging rights will mean much more, the nation will watch, and both programs will be elevated. The success of one adds to the success of the other. As it stands UVA has brought very little to this rivalry for the last decade. LSU, Alabama and OSU, Michigan are rivalries with national implications. Our rivalry should produce more than just bragging rights. Until there are TWO teams that put a winner on the field we will both be robbed of what could be. Tech has done their part, now it is time for UVA to do theirs. Both programs will be better for it.

    I'll give you one thing we could use UVA to be better and until then need to stop worrying about beating UVA for recruits and be worried about beating the collective OOS schools for VA's top talent:

    This class in VA:
    Top 10
    VT: 3
    UVA: 1
    OOS: 6

    Top 25:
    VT: 10
    UVA: 4
    OOS: 11

    We crushed UVA in state but the OOS schools beat us. IMO if the UVA VT rivalry was better we likely draw more attention of some of these instate kids....the SEC type schools are always going to out bid us for kids/parents/handlers that are open to that but IMO that is a small number of kids, and IMO most of the time those aren't the kids you want anyway.

    After the top 25 there are some good players but if either of us want to be elite we need to dip down that low only here and there and need to be getting better talent elsewhere. Sure VT does a great job with underrated kids and we have a few in every class that are actually 4* level players in College. But our best players are the highest rated, Logan, Tyrod, Marcus, Mike, RW, DW, Macho, Vince, Adibi, DHall, Royal, Flowers, Hosley. We need more top players, I don't care who we beat for them.

    But in the mean time we can at least say we are better than UVA on the field and recruiting, because you are our Rival and we don't really have anyone else we can point too.

    HNB

  • PlayaHtr said...

    Do you honestly know Coach Moore? Because he posts on The Grounds. Just doesn't go by Coach Moore, and I have never seen him say anything like what you are insinuating, and he has posted as recently as last week.

    Nice to know.

    You can look at his quote in the Pilot when he announced he was retiring, maybe he meant something else, but it would be hard to interpret that any other way. I can't imagine he would say anything one way or another about the people surrounding kids on his team, he is a professional and has a good reputation, other than his kids not considering VT of course...He obviously knows the Bred's have people on the Grounds and on The Tunnel

    HNB

  • HNB said...

    Since it came up: when has UVA been in a big game? I'm sure they have happened, I just can't remember off hand. They played VT for the coastal but we hammered them in those, and if those were big games for UVA they were for VT too right? We have bigger games nearly every year than UVA has ever had

    And sorry for posting this, this question has killed a lot of threads over the years....and before the answer comes in, no Hokie has said we are elite.

    HNB

  • heres a question for you O Knowledgable One...whats one thing that you have been correct about that wasnt widely known?

    BeachHokie

  • according to the industry composite and 247 these are a bit skewed, yall won this year but it wasn't as much of a blowout as you say. The real results will show up on the field. As I've said its not that we are blowing you out in recruiting, its that we are challenging you and taking some players you otherwise would've gotten, that added to our solid recruiting in Maryland and further north is raising the level of competition. No need to twist the facts due to bias either way. Additionally not sure why everyone is getting so hot and bothered over Blanding. We have 2 very connected people saying different things so I'd take a wait and see approach because either could end up happening, but no one on here knows what the hell they are talking about which makes me wonder why they are the loudest voices typically.

    CAVALCADE

  • This post was in reference to HNB state rankings by the way, im assuming they are hokie haven or rivals rankings because they aren't the ones ive found here.

    CAVALCADE

  • PlayaHtr said...

    Did it ever occur to you that I don't give a shit what you or any other Hokie on these boards think. Don't be a Hater, that's my job!!

    If you dont give a shit...then why do you respond...every. single. time.

    BeachHokie

  • HNB said...

    I'll give you one thing we could use UVA to be better and until then need to stop worrying about beating UVA for recruits and be worried about beating the collective OOS schools for VA's top talent:

    This class in VA:
    Top 10
    VT: 3
    UVA: 1
    OOS: 6

    Top 25:
    VT: 10
    UVA: 4
    OOS: 11

    We crushed UVA in state but the OOS schools beat us. IMO if the UVA VT rivalry was better we likely draw more attention of some of these instate kids....the SEC type schools are always going to out bid us for kids/parents/handlers that are open to that but IMO that is a small number of kids, and IMO most of the time those aren't the kids you want anyway.

    After the top 25 there are some good players but if either of us want to be elite we need to dip down that low only here and there and need to be getting better talent elsewhere. Sure VT does a great job with underrated kids and we have a few in every class that are actually 4* level players in College. But our best players are the highest rated, Logan, Tyrod, Marcus, Mike, RW, DW, Macho, Vince, Adibi, DHall, Royal, Flowers, Hosley. We need more top players, I don't care who we beat for them.

    But in the mean time we can at least say we are better than UVA on the field and recruiting, because you are our Rival and we don't really have anyone else we can point too.

    To get a full overview of UVA recruiting you also have to look at the state of Maryland. UVA has been landing some of the top players in that state...

    raleighoo

  • raleighoo said...

    To get a full overview of UVA recruiting you also have to look at the state of Maryland. UVA has been landing some of the top players in that state...

    bs_sign Pretty sure we just pulled the #1 player out of MD but try again.

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    DCHokie88

  • PlayaHtr said...

    And like I told the other doubter, prove that I've been wrong about anything I've said, he couldn't and you can't either.

    You said Phillip Sims would be good and guarantee you 1 or 2 more wins than Rocco... that turned out swell.

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  • In my opinion the team that poses the biggest threat to UVA and Tech (in Va) is UNC. They and their new coach (Fedora) are making it no secret that they plan to target the state of Va for football recruits. They have been doing this for decades in basketball and have all intentions of bringing their brand to the tidewater for football recruits.

    raleighoo

  • DC-Hokie88 said...

    bs_sign Pretty sure we just pulled the #1 player out of MD but try again.

    What would you like me to try again? If you can read the English language then what I said is very clear.

    raleighoo

  • CAVALCADE said...

    This post was in reference to HNB state rankings by the way, im assuming they are hokie haven or rivals rankings because they aren't the ones ive found here.

    I looked at OX's composite rankings, that one has more than just the 247 comp, other ones might be a little different, he posted his just the other day and I was looking at it. I didn't look at others, we have #26 in his too.

    I know you all hate it but how many of your recruits have VT offers and vice versa? There are always one here or there that one of us doesn't offer for what ever reason but that is another good compairison. and then there is Red Shirting, VT did a great job last year of RS most of it's top talent, UVA did not, IMO that is the biggest difference maker after pure talent in college football.

    You all might be doing better at recruiting now than under Al at the end, but VT is too. The last 2 years are VT's best back to back recruiting years ever...and oh yea, we have much better coaching and know what we want for our schemes, at least on D...we'll have a new O soon enough...or shall I say an O.

    You all think that you have the talent in 14 because those will be London's players, but those players will be true Srs and true Jrs, Facing kids at VT that had an extra year of weights. Our kids didn't play because they "had" too,m they played because they were good enough. Q Moore would be a really nice player as a RS Sr and a hell of a leader

    HNB

  • raleighoo said...

    What would you like me to try again? If you can read the English language then what I said is very clear.

    I gather by your screen name that you were born in 88. Hence the immature post that you are recognized for by other fans, but even at times by Hokie fans also. Time to grow up some young man. Also known as DC-Hokie.

    This post was edited by raleighoo on 12/19/2012 at 10:17 AM

    raleighoo

  • raleighoo said...

    I gather by your screen name that you were born in 88. Hence the immature post that you are recognized for by other fans, but even at times by Hokie fans also. Time to grow up some young man. Also known as DC-Hokie.

    Guys like DC hokie and Chad give you guys a lot of shit here. That is what we do in this thread. Both are damn solid people.

    VTSmitty

  • VTSmitty said...

    Guys like DC hokie and Chad give you guys a lot of shit here. That is what we do in this thread. Both are damn solid people.

    Yes I see the "shit" you refer to. Carry on....

    raleighoo