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The Official UVa-VT Rivalry Thread (as discussed on both boards)

  • By the way.. when posting on this board I have 2 rules I keep. 1) I never resort to name calling such as idiot, or retard. 2) I never downvote any hokie fan that post here. I will debate and stand my ground but any downvote you may have received on this thread has not come from me. I have also received hardly no downvotes from hokie posters here which is classy.

    Now back to next years hokie ass whooping....

    raleighoo

  • raleighoo said...

    Va tech football is in decline. Your coaching staff is Old and in decline. Your fans are in decline. Your attendance for bowl games is in decline. Your recruiting as a whole over the last six years is in decline. Your dominance of the tidewater is in decline. It is so bad that hokie nation (whatever that is) wants to can the entire coaching staff, which means your excitement level is in decline. Decline is the key word here. Meanwhile UVA is now the preferred destination for much of the state's top talent. LOL I can't wait to hear the responses to this post. Hokies are seeing red and pulling their tooth out.

    Okay, stay with me here....click the link and count the number of VT commits vs uva commits. Count them up and tell me the results. You may have to take off one shoe to count the VT commits. What you'll find is that your statement about uva "being the preferred destination" is false.

    As far as bowl attendance, ours may have gone down but uva's bowl attendance stayed the same this year...zero.

    Dominance in the Tidewater area? Okay, again, count the number of players in the Top 50 from Tidewater...see who has more commits. Yet another claim that's false.

    Can the whole staff? C'mon man....this kind of statement is just plain ignorant on your part.

    raleigh, my suggestion is you stop while you're behind. London went backwards this year and you know it. He hasn't a clue how to run a D-1 program. Maybe you can use actual facts next time around.

    2013 Football Recruit Rankings

    The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts. Players are ranked by position, grouped qualitatively with a star ranking and given a numerical ranking based on their future potential.

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    mm87vt

  • mm87vt said...

    Okay, stay with me here....click the link and count the number of VT commits vs uva commits. Count them up and tell me the results. You may have to take off one shoe to count the VT commits. What you'll find is that your statement about uva "being the preferred destination" is false.

    As far as bowl attendance, ours may have gone down but uva's bowl attendance stayed the same this year...zero.

    Dominance in the Tidewater area? Okay, again, count the number of players in the Top 50 from Tidewater...see who has more commits. Yet another claim that's false.

    Can the whole staff? C'mon man....this kind of statement is just plain ignorant on your part.

    raleigh, my suggestion is you stop while you're behind. London went backwards this year and you know it. He hasn't a clue how to run a D-1 program. Maybe you can use actual facts next time around.

    I stand by my comments MM. I see a turning of the tide in recruiting. 2014 recruiting will be key to rather I am right or wrong. If things go well this could be a great recruiting class and UVA'S best ever. Combined with currently maturing young players and 2013 recruiting results I see a defining change coming to UVA'S football program. If London can't coach that group to compete then he will go. But, we are not close to that point.

    raleighoo

  • mm87vt said...

    Okay, stay with me here....click the link and count the number of VT commits vs uva commits. Count them up and tell me the results. You may have to take off one shoe to count the VT commits. What you'll find is that your statement about uva "being the preferred destination" is false.

    As far as bowl attendance, ours may have gone down but uva's bowl attendance stayed the same this year...zero.

    Dominance in the Tidewater area? Okay, again, count the number of players in the Top 50 from Tidewater...see who has more commits. Yet another claim that's false.

    Can the whole staff? C'mon man....this kind of statement is just plain ignorant on your part.

    raleigh, my suggestion is you stop while you're behind. London went backwards this year and you know it. He hasn't a clue how to run a D-1 program. Maybe you can use actual facts next time around.

    As far as London going backwards. Most UVA fans expected a step back this year. I did not expect a bowl type team. Any large scale senior leadership graduated the year before and even that was limited due to poor recruiting and player retention during the latter part of Grohs tenure. London showed that with upper class leadership that he could produce (ACC coach of the year, Peach Bowl). Talent is streaming in and it will provide experience and leadership in time. When that happens the "ass whoopings will commence".

    raleighoo

  • Lastly MM. The fact is, your fan base has been, and is, tired of your good ole boy coaching staff. Look at
    Your own board, many want Beamer gone, which means your entire coaching staff would be canned for the most part. I did not have to say it. Hokies are saying it loud and clear.

    raleighoo

  • mm87vt said...

    Okay, stay with me here....click the link and count the number of VT commits vs uva commits. Count them up and tell me the results. You may have to take off one shoe to count the VT commits. What you'll find is that your statement about uva "being the preferred destination" is false.

    As far as bowl attendance, ours may have gone down but uva's bowl attendance stayed the same this year...zero.

    Dominance in the Tidewater area? Okay, again, count the number of players in the Top 50 from Tidewater...see who has more commits. Yet another claim that's false.

    Can the whole staff? C'mon man....this kind of statement is just plain ignorant on your part.

    raleigh, my suggestion is you stop while you're behind. London went backwards this year and you know it. He hasn't a clue how to run a D-1 program. Maybe you can use actual facts next time around.

    And I did not say that UVA is dominating the tidewater. I said "your dominance" there is in decline. Your own coaching staff knows this hence the recent shakeup to benefit recruiting. The writing is on the wall MM. I know it hurts you, but it is what it is.

    raleighoo

  • raleighoo said...

    Lastly MM. The fact is, your fan base has been, and is, tired of your good ole boy coaching staff. Look at
    Your own board, many want Beamer gone, which means your entire coaching staff would be canned for the most part. I did not have to say it. Hokies are saying it loud and clear.

    Yes, we are tired of the good ole boy coaching staff, especially on the offensive side of the ball-- that is why change is coming and if we get the guy I hope we get at OC then VT will be back to the nasty ground and pound that put VT on the map, not to mention the guy can recruit. VT football isn't going to stay down, recruiting has stayed the same if not slightly improved the past couple years (thanks Shane). Cornell Brown is down in the 757 now and early implications are very positive. If I was buying stock I would go in for at least 50 shares on VT football since the price is low, but there is a great change the ship gets back on the right track.

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  • Raleigh, are you F'ing serious right now?

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  • Vt is changing the sidevofvthe ball holding it back, if the new staff is as good as history says, VT will be at least an ACC dominant team again. It is a miracle that VT was able win as much w that clown O staff as it was.

    VT has its best 2 recruiting classes ever the last 2 years...not sure how any rational person can call that a pending decline. UVA has yet to prove it is worth any consideration as anything our that a bad program in a bad conf. And your 14 class won't be your 14 class until London keeps his job after next year...the class w no recruits in it.

    HNB

  • raleighoo said...

    And I did not say that UVA is dominating the tidewater. I said "your dominance" there is in decline. Your own coaching staff knows this hence the recent shakeup to benefit recruiting. The writing is on the wall MM. I know it hurts you, but it is what it is.

    You said uva was the "preferred destination"....did you not? I simply provided a link showing the majority (at least 2/3 majority) of Va players are headed to Tech. You throw out so much bullsh*t, you can't remember what you posted.

    Here's another link showing the most up to date 2013 rankings per 247. VT #9 uva #22. But you're right, our recruiting is suffering immensely.....loco

    2013 Football Team Rankings

    In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Composite Rating.

    247sports.com

    mm87vt

  • mm87vt said...

    You said uva was the "preferred destination"....did you not? I simply provided a link showing the majority (at least 2/3 majority) of Va players are headed to Tech. You throw out so much bullsh*t, you can't remember what you posted.

    Here's another link showing the most up to date 2013 rankings per 247. VT #9 uva #22. But you're right, our recruiting is suffering immensely.....loco

    Your own fan base has blamed some of this years performance on not recruiting the type of players that brought past success. They have called your current crop of players soft. You have put together two nice recruiting classes but you know that previously recruiting had taken a hit. It appears that Beamer has lost some if his fire and has an excuse for everything. Beamerball has been dead for a while. And yes UVA is gaining ground on tech talent wise. That coupled with beamers apparent lack of fire bodes well for UVA.

    raleighoo

  • raleighoo said...

    Your own fan base has blamed some of this years performance on not recruiting the type of players that brought past success. They have called your current crop of players soft. You have put together two nice recruiting classes but you know that previously recruiting had taken a hit. It appears that Beamer has lost some if his fire and has an excuse for everything. Beamerball has been dead for a while. And yes UVA is gaining ground on tech talent wise. That coupled with beamers apparent lack of fire bodes well for UVA.

    UVA is becoming the preferred destination. I mean look we have the godfather right?

    raleighoo

  • Nomad Chad said...

    Raleigh, are you F'ing serious right now?

    LOL ok Nomad. I know these facts are causing you to panic. But stay positive, UVA will always have your back and provide a safe landing place for your football team.

    raleighoo

  • raleighoo said...

    LOL ok Nomad. I know these facts are causing you to panic. But stay positive, UVA will always have your back and provide a safe landing place for your football team.

    Facts and your opinions are not synonymous. I had a good laugh though.

    And if by safe landing place, you mean UVA vag and VT butt raping UVA every year, then we are in accordance. Good day, Sir.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Nomad Chad on 1/1/2013 at 5:46 AM

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  • raleighoo said...

    UVA is becoming the preferred destination. I mean look we have the godfather right?

    raleigh...when you start replying to your own posts, it's an indication you're reaching. Don't fret though, in 3 to 4 months, it'll be peak season for hoo football fans when the spring game rolls around where you and the other 900 fans sit and watch the game proclaiming "this is our year!!".

    mm87vt

  • raleighoo said...

    The only reason "you" don't care about those sports is because as a tech fan you have nothing to cheer for once football season is over. And you are not even elite in football. Sports for you guys is over now. 1--27... soon to be 1-28...

    No, its because those sports dont matter. We have a better wrestling program, our T&F finished top 10 nationally, girls volleyball has owned UVA. But again, these are sports that dont matter (to those whose school has a football program) so we dont need to crow about it.

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  • raleighoo said...

    I will repeat... when was the last time tech beat Miami and FSU in their backyards in the same season? It is a very simple question that does not require a great deal of research....

    We play FSU in Charlotte instead of Florida, yall should try it one day.

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  • glad we are not arguing about the same things we have for the past 200+ pages.

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  • raleighoo said...

    London is not far removed from being named ACC coach of the year.

    Love this line. You UVA fans truly are so blinded that you can't see the similarities. London is Al Groh, just got bad quicker.

    You do realize that Al Groh was fired 2 years after being named ACC COY correct? Both were identical seasons, filled with luck, and crappy teams, sandwiched by horrendous 4-8 seasons.

    So it's tough for you to sit here and say London is a good coach, but Groh wasn't, when their careers are damn near identical, production wise. Groh could just recruit a lot better to start.

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  • all this London criticism coming from a fan base who wants the coach who has taken them to 20 straight bowl games and had the longest streak of 10 win seasons, fired

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  • UVAgodfather said...

    all this London criticism coming from a fan base who wants the coach who has taken them to 20 straight bowl games and had the longest streak of 10 win seasons, fired

    I personally don't want Beamer fired, and very few do, we just want changes on O which were getting. Unlike UVA, we don't accept a 7-6 season, and sure as hell wouldn't accept 4-8 seasons.

    And wouldn't we be more qualified to criticize London, seeing that we know what a successful coach looks like, while y'all just build hype for shitty coaches, Groh, London, Leitao.

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    I personally don't want Beamer fired, and very few do, we just want changes on O which were getting. Unlike UVA, we don't accept a 7-6 season, and sure as hell wouldn't accept 4-8 seasons.

    And wouldn't we be more qualified to criticize London, seeing that we know what a successful coach looks like, while y'all just build hype for shitty coaches, Groh, London, Leitao.

    what makes you think we accept 4-8 seasons? and for your benefit don't bring up basketball in any way. plus, UVA would know what a good coach is like because of Welsh, who gave Beamer a yearly beating when Beamer first showed up.

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    No, its because those sports dont matter. We have a better wrestling program, our T&F finished top 10 nationally, girls volleyball has owned UVA. But again, these are sports that dont matter (to those whose school has a football program) so we dont need to crow about it.

    Bingo..

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  • UVAgodfather said...

    what makes you think we accept 4-8 seasons? and for your benefit don't bring up basketball in any way. plus, UVA would know what a good coach is like because of Welsh, who gave Beamer a yearly beating when Beamer first showed up.

    also, to say very few want Beamer gone is BS. just go to your board and theres threads among threads about it

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  • VasFinest154919 said...

    Bingo..

    BS

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