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1. This is the ACC, 10 wins is always a strong possibility for VT, as has been proven 2. Those old farts didn't make changes until way too late, while everyone w a TV knew VTs O was awful, we kept winning. These changes can't make our O worse, and we will have a top 15 D for many years to come. If the O becomes just average or just above average, we win a S to of games.
Pep is a good recruiter, comes from a hell of a program, and runs an O that would work very well w our D....and losing the OC, OLC, QBC we had is a huge addition by subtraction.
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Who is Pep? The OC for Stanford? Do you guys think he would leave Stanford to come to VT? If it were known by other programs that he was willing to leave your going to have some stiff competition for him. I don't know why the guy would leave a program that's been in a BCS bowl the past 3 years. What's he getting paid in Stanford?
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HNB said...
This, and it is known, if we know, so do others. This is a high stake game with agents standing to make big bucks, he's a hot commodity right now and will be able to go many places, if it's VT will be thrilled. If not we'll get someone else, but that someone else will be light years better than what we have had the last decade, and now that it appears that person will be allowed to hire their own O staff I think we can really improve the side of the ball that has held us back.
If a guy can come to VT and bring a good O and make VT a top 5-10 team, and lets face it with VT's D and being in the ACC, that may not be all that hard....that will get that OC a very very good next job, likely a BCS level HC job.
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HNB said...
This, and it is known, if we know, so do others. This is a high stake game with agents standing to make big bucks, he's a hot commodity right now and will be able to go many places, if it's VT will be thrilled. If not we'll get someone else, but that someone else will be light years better than what we have had the last decade, and now that it appears that person will be allowed to hire their own O staff I think we can really improve the side of the ball that has held us back.
If a guy can come to VT and bring a good O and make VT a top 5-10 team, and lets face it with VT's D and being in the ACC, that may not be all that hard....that will get that OC a very very good next job, likely a BCS level HC job.
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I can agree with that, I don't think you have the guy on your staff right now to take over for Frank Beamer when he calls it quits. I wonder if the administration or whoever is going to hire this guy look for a guy that seems ungettable now by promising him the HC job when Frank retires, just don't make it public, might be able to hit a homerun with something like that.
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Who is Pep? The OC for Stanford? Do you guys think he would leave Stanford to come to VT? If it were known by other programs that he was willing to leave your going to have some stiff competition for him. I don't know why the guy would leave a program that's been in a BCS bowl the past 3 years. What's he getting paid in Stanford?
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I don't know if that is possible with Bud on staff? But I have no idea if he wants the HC job and all that it would entail? I also don't know if Frank is ready to put that out there because if a new guys comes in and is really good he sure as hell might not want to step down, kind of like what happened at Texas w Much.
I definitely think if someone comes in and does a great job they could earn the job or be in a position to have the in waiting title with a turn over deadline?
Even with out that I can't think of another program with as nationally known horrible O as VT, so turning VT into a legit O would mean a ton in the college football world and worth a ton of money. Vt has the exposure that can launch someone to a major job if done right, but of course that is a risk too, but worth it IMO to get us a real O.
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I think he got his point across rather nicely when it comes to what he thinks about Paul Johnson without going into intimate detail. LOL!! I also think next year will be Paul Johnson's last year at GT too, I've heard the alumni are getting tired of him.
I think this bowl win gave him an extra year beyond 2013. If he lost it then I would agree with you. Obviously he is a prick. Only prick would go for it on 4th and 3 from their own 35 yard line. Which make me think, how many times did he go for it on forth down and not make it? Would you think that maybe if he punted more, then GT would have won a few more games? Just thinking out loud..
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I think this bowl win gave him an extra year beyond 2013. If he lost it then I would agree with you. Obviously he is a prick. Only prick would go for it on 4th and 3 from their own 35 yard line. Which make me think, how many times did he go for it on forth down and not make it? Would you think that maybe if he punted more, then GT would have won a few more games? Just thinking out loud..
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Yeah I don't think the bowl game saved him, he did most of his damage in the ACC with kids that he didn't recruit. Their recruitng classes have sucked, I think they are in for a bad season next year. The more the ACC teams play the triple option the less effective it will become IMO. He fired Groh to keep the heat off his back and get another year.
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That is where I think VT is in kind of tough spot with hiring a new OC, you have Bud who is the highest paid assistant at $500K a year. Bringing in Pep is probably going to cost you between $650-$750K a year just to outbid some other schools that may go after him too. How's Bud going to feel about putting all these years in and some guy comes in the first year making more than him. Bud isn't the answer as the guy that suceeds Frank, if he were head coaching material he would have been one 10-15 years ago.
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That is where I think VT is in kind of tough spot with hiring a new OC, you have Bud who is the highest paid assistant at $500K a year. Bringing in Pep is probably going to cost you between $650-$750K a year just to outbid some other schools that may go after him too. How's Bud going to feel about putting all these years in and some guy comes in the first year making more than him. Bud isn't the answer as the guy that suceeds Frank, if he were head coaching material he would have been one 10-15 years ago.
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Bud doesnt get paid 500k so thats a moot point. Bud will make over 750k per year from 2009-2014, including bonuses for bowls, acc titles and all that. We can pay an offensive guy 500k, couple that with the face that Bud wants an offense that could take some pressure off of him and were fine.
The administration making this hire will be out in 2015 (at the latest) so they dont matter either. This is all on Beamer.
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All of them pretty much. From what's being reported, will be surprised if any of the visits some that were made actually happened. From the sounds of it on Twitter and other Social Media most of them assume as we do that Tenuta will be the new DC.
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As I said, Bud will make over 750k a year from 2009-2014, when by Browse to Save">bonuses are factored in. If youd like to put some money up, ill take any bet youd like that his average income from VT per year is over 750k from 2009-2014.
You have no clue what Pep is paid now, nor what he will get elsewhere. Unless this is Dashawns uncle telling you this again, he was dead on last time.
FWIW I dont expect Pep at VT anyways, though id be thrilled with the hire.
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