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The Official UVa-VT Rivalry Thread (as discussed on both boards)

  • mm87vt said...

    Is the writing on the wall for Lazor? I don't think it's a secret London's made some decisions that have negatively impacted Lazor's offense most notably flip flopping QB's for two straight years. Any word on Lazor actively looking to get out of C'ville?

    Flip flopping the first year was Lazor's call, last year from all indications was there was some tension between the two over Rocco and Sims, but London didn't want to play Sims because he promised him anything. We were struggling at the time, it seemed to work well starting with NC State and some games it didn't. I think he would listen to NFL offers if they came calling for an OC job, but he does make pretty good money at UVA $500K a year before bonuses, and he also has 4 more years on his contract.

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  • PlayaHtr said...

    Flip flopping the first year was Lazor's call, last year from all indications was there was some tension between the two over Rocco and Sims, but London didn't want to play Sims because he promised him anything. We were struggling at the time, it seemed to work well starting with NC State and some games it didn't. I think he would listen to NFL offers if they came calling for an OC job, but he does make pretty good money at UVA $500K a year before bonuses, and he also has 4 more years on his contract.

    Are you sure it was Lazor's idea because I recall a post game press conference that year where Lazor was asked about the Watford/Rocco thing, all Lazor said was "that's the plan." No elaboration etc... I thought it was well known that London told Watford he would play his true freshman year hence the flip flopping.

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  • raleighoo said...

    Is it not funny to see post from chokies (1-27, soon to be 1-28) like the one above. They cant accept the fact that they are being outflanked on every side. Now lets remember these hokie fans have had to witness their beloved hokies choke on the big stage for over two decades. They piled up ten win seasons by eating cupcakes for two decades. Now these same people who want their entire staff canned are experts at coaching hires at other schools. You had your chance and you failed. You could not deliver at crunch time. You got blown off the big stage by real big time teams. Now you have a new coaching staff up the road that is going to finish you off and put you out of your misery. Go Hoos...

    We have lost some games on the big stage, but the difference here is we have been to the big stage. How many big stage games does uva have? One FSU and if i recall VT beat you that year! As far as our 10 win seasons think about it uva has been one of those cupcakes. The only reason you don't have losses on the big stage is you have yet to get there. Yes TOB what a coach yea when Ryan was QB, VT beat BC in the championship game not once but twice. How many ACC Championships does UVA have that are not shared? zero? took VT 52 weeks what it has taken UVA how many years to win the ACC? Still waiting to see that happen. You co-shared one with Duke and one with FSU. Our worst year in 20 years and we still beat you. UVA fires coaches for not beating VT.

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  • Fellow Hokies - Please shut up about Tenuta, TOB and for that matter London. I for one hope they enjoy LONG tunures in Charlotteshole.

    Loudoun Hokie

  • So let’s see how the commonwealth’s two FBS programs fare by the two standards, only we’ll start the clock in 2004, the season Virginia Tech joined Virginia as an ACC member.

    In the seven seasons since, the Hokies are a sterling 19-12 versus teams that were among the AP's top 25 at kickoff. Against the top 10, Tech is a credible 5-8.

    But against the final 25, the Hokies are 14-14. Versus the top 10, they’re a meager 2-8, the victories over West Virginia in 2005 and Boston College in the 2007 ACC championship game.

    The in-season to end-of-season change cost Tech three top-10 victories: Miami in 2004 and ’09, and Clemson in 2006. That Tigers’ squad, rated 10th when the Hokies beat them 24-7, finished the year unranked.

    Virginia’s numbers dip dramatically, too. Since 2004, the Cavaliers are 7-17 against opponents ranked at kickoff, not horrible for a program in transition.

    But versus teams among the year-end top 25, Virginia is 2-20, the lone wins over Florida State in 2005 and Georgia Tech in 2008.

    Judge for yourself which standard is best. Each has merits, especially when you consider injuries, suspensions, etc.

    But there’s no question which is the most demanding.

    Here’s a season-by-season breakdown for Tech and Virginia against the final 25, which you won’t find in any media guide.

    VIRGINIA TECH

    2004: Lost to No. 1 USC and No.2 Auburn; beat No. 11 Miami and No. 23 Virginia

    2005: Beat No. 5 West Virginia, No. 18 Boston College and No. 19 Louisville; lost to No. 17 Miami and No. 23 Florida State.

    2006: Beat No. 18 Wake Forest; lost to No. 20 Boston College and No. 23 Georgia.

    Elections 2007: Lost to No. 1 LSU, No. 7 Kansas and No. 10 Boston College (regular season); beat No. 10 Boston College (ACC title game) and No. 21 Clemson.

    2008: Beat No. 17 Cincinnati and No. 22 Georgia Tech; lost to No. 21 Florida State.

    2009: Lost to No. 1 Alabama and No. 13 Georgia Tech; beat No. 14 Nebraska and No. 19 Miami.

    2010: Lost to No. 4 Stanford and No. 9 Boise State; beat No. 17 Florida State and No. 25 North Carolina State.

    VIRGINIA

    2004: Lost to No. 10 Virginia Tech, No. 11 Miami, No. 15 Florida State and No. 22 Fresno State.

    2005: Lost to No. 7 Virginia Tech, No. 17 Miami, No. 18 Boston College; beat No. 23 Florida State.

    2006: Lost to No. 19 Virginia Tech.

    2007: Lost to No. 9 Virginia Tech and No. 22 Texas Tech.

    2008: Lost to No. 3 USC and No. 15 Virginia Tech; beat No. 22 Georgia Tech.

    2009: Lost to No. 6 TCU, No. 10 Virginia Tech, No. 13 Georgia Tech, No. 19 Miami and No. 24 Clemson.

    2010: Lost to No. 16 Virginia Tech, No. 17 Florida State and No. 23 Maryland.
    Copyright © 2013, Newport News, Va., Daily Press

    This post was edited by AndyV on 1/4/2013 at 12:40 PM

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  • PlayaHtr said...

    HNB with all due respect, that old white guy comment came from 5284 and hasn't been confirmed he also claimed it upset Corey Marshall the player in question. Which for us to be his second choice he must have been pretty tore up about the comment. It just doesn't add up. Not that it matters in the first place.

    I wish the season was upon us already, so you and the other Hokies that think it's going to be all doom and gloom for the Hoo's this year can be proven wrong.

    Anddddd you're way off again.

    Michigan was Corey's #2, not UVA, Jesus you really are clueless.

    As for tenuta, our O that ranked 100 outbox 119, put up over 400 yards in him, why the hell would we be scared? He is awful, you don't get fired from 3 consecutive jobs for being good.

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  • HNB said...

    Talk to some Domers about their thoughts on Tenuta. He will always get sacks, but in doing so he trades the risk of pressure for TD's and big gains, there is a reason we gained big yards on GT yet they had a lot of sacks.

    Exactly, that's all Tenuta does, blitz like shit. He has been canned at 3 straight jobs.

    I'd grade the hires

    TOB- B to B+
    Tenuta- D
    UTEP guy-Don't know enough about him
    Hagans- Unproven so can't really gauge him, but I think taking a shot on a young kid like that is a good idea somewhere on the staff. So I give the idea a B

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  • PlayaHtr said...

    Hmm: First 3 years coaching at UVA Mike London 16-21 at VT Frank Beamer 11-22. In this day and age Frank wouldn't have even been coaching a 4th season at VT after that record in his first 3 years.

    All London has to do is win 6 games this upcoming season and he gains again on Frank after 4 seasons. And then only has to win 7 games the next two seasons combined to match how many Frank won in his 5th and 6th seasons in Blacksburg.

    My point is London isn't as bad as you guys make him out to be and if message boards were around from 1986-1993 there would be nobody on your message boards. VT also lost 5 of 6 to UVA in Franks first 6 years. So if we want to do comparisons let's do them with real facts at the same stage in each coaches career at the schools.

    I laugh when people compare Franks first three years to ML's.. VT was independent, UVA has been in the ACC. ML did not take over a nonexistent program.

    My point is, ML is not a good coach, and its obvious.

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    Exactly, that's all Tenuta does, blitz like shit. He has been canned at 3 straight jobs.

    I'd grade the hires

    TOB- B to B+ Tenuta- D UTEP guy-Don't know enough about him Hagans- Unproven so can't really gauge him, but I think taking a shot on a young kid like that is a good idea somewhere on the staff. So I give the idea a B

    He was not canned at 3 straight jobs. Paul Johnson wanted to bring in his own staff at GT. Same with Brian Kelly at ND. And he was not fired at NCSU. I know you love to bash all things UVa, but come on man.

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  • steelcav said...

    He was not canned at 3 straight jobs. Paul Johnson wanted to bring in his own staff at GT. Same with Brian Kelly at ND. And he was not fired at NCSU. I know you love to bash all things UVa, but come on man.

    So he wasnt canned, but he wasnt retained? Exactly what is that then?

    Bash all things UVA, or be realistic? I just said TOB hire was a B to B+, and Hagans was a B, thats hardly bashing. I wouldve said said they all sucked if I was just looking to trash yall. I know you love to spin everything UVA, but come on man.

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    So he wasnt canned, but he wasnt retained? Exactly what is that then?

    Bash all things UVA, or be realistic? I just said TOB hire was a B to B+, and Hagans was a B, thats hardly bashing. I wouldve said said they all sucked if I was just looking to trash yall. I know you love to spin everything UVA, but come on man.

    It's not canned, that's for sure. His defense finished 12th in his last year at GT. Why would GT 'can' him after that?

    steelcav

  • Here are Tenutas last 2 takeovers, he was not retained after his first year as DC at either.

    NCST
    2011- Pre Tentuta as DC- 58th ranked D
    2012- Tenuta as DC- 77th ranked D

    ND
    2008- Pre Tenuta- 42nd ranked D
    2009- Tenuta as DC- 66th ranked D

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    Here are Tenutas last 2 takeovers, he was not retained after his first year as DC at either.

    NCST 2011- Pre Tentuta as DC- 58th ranked D 2012- Tenuta as DC- 77th ranked D

    ND 2008- Pre Tenuta- 42nd ranked D 2009- Tenuta as DC- 66th ranked D

    Nice redirect attempt. Are you a lawyer? Was he canned three straight jobs? No.

    steelcav

  • steelcav said...

    Nice redirect attempt. Are you a lawyer? Was he canned three straight jobs? No.

    Im not redirecting at all, I started that post before I saw yours. Tenuta was forced to leave by all of his previous 3 employers, right or wrong?

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    Im not redirecting at all, I started that post before I saw yours. Tenuta was forced to leave by all of his previous 3 employers, right or wrong?

    Wrong

    steelcav

  • steelcav said...

    Wrong

    Steelcav, i will say this about 5284...he is honest. He even bashes his hokies out of honesty, so doing it to the Hoos is not difficult at all. I ask...why do uva fans think vt fears them? Remove the rivalry aspect...you cant actually think this, do you?

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  • hokie10 said...

    Steelcav, i will say this about 5284...he is honest. He even bashes his hokies out of honesty, so doing it to the Hoos is not difficult at all. I ask...why do uva fans think vt fears them? Remove the rivalry aspect...you cant actually think this, do you?

    I'm not sure why you're asking me that question, but I can speak for myself and say that I do not think VT fears us in terms of football. That's ludicrous. On the contrary, I am envious and jealous of your football program.

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  • steelcav said...

    Wrong

    We aren't firing OCain or Newsome....but they aren't coming back, we just aren't firing them, we are letting them retire or find other jobs. Your admin should take notes.

    HNB

  • HNB said...

    We aren't firing OCain or Newsome....but they aren't coming back, we just aren't firing them, we are letting them retire or find other jobs. Your admin should take notes.

    I admit, we botched that job.

    steelcav

  • steelcav said...

    I admit, we botched that job.

    The way that went down just makes one think you all wanted a contingency plan in case things got worse in the early goings next year....which is a great idea. If you all start off really bad next year and London is the same on the sidelines, just hand off to TOB. If things go well its money well spent. This was a good hire.

    Tenuta: I think you should have kept Reid if this was the best you could do...unless TOB wanted this as part of his deal to come?

    HNB

  • HNB said...

    The way that went down just makes one think you all wanted a contingency plan in case things got worse in the early goings next year....which is a great idea. If you all start off really bad next year and London is the same on the sidelines, just hand off to TOB. If things go well its money well spent. This was a good hire.

    Tenuta: I think you should have kept Reid if this was the best you could do...unless TOB wanted this as part of his deal to come?

    IMHO, the AD likes having TOB on board as a contingency, but I really think TOB came here to be an assistant first and foremost. The way we fired Reid and crew was handled poorly, but I was not a fan of his defense and am very excited at the prospect of an attacking D like the one Tenuta draws up. Requires lock down corners, so this year may experience some growing pains. It's been a very, very long time since we had an attacking, ball-hawking D...going back to the Lantz days.

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    So he wasnt canned, but he wasnt retained? Exactly what is that then?

    Bash all things UVA, or be realistic? I just said TOB hire was a B to B+, and Hagans was a B, thats hardly bashing. I wouldve said said they all sucked if I was just looking to trash yall. I know you love to spin everything UVA, but come on man.

    You know what, I'm beginning to think you have some other issues, you think you know all, but I'll give you a clue, we all laugh at you behind your back even your fellow fans. So if you think you look important trying to discredit everything anybody has to say so that you get the last word. Your real life must suck balls. Jus Sayin!! I'll be on a crusade from here on out to stick anything bad that happens to the Hokies straight in your face. No disrespect meant to some of the other posters on this thread that are Hokie fans that this doesn't apply to.

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  • Hokie5284 said...

    Here are Tenutas last 2 takeovers, he was not retained after his first year as DC at either.

    NCST 2011- Pre Tentuta as DC- 58th ranked D 2012- Tenuta as DC- 77th ranked D

    ND 2008- Pre Tenuta- 42nd ranked D 2009- Tenuta as DC- 66th ranked D

    Your the dumbass Tenuta wasn't even NC State's DC. And you call me clueless!!

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  • On a serious note, I think this here is awesome whether it's UVA or any other college giving this kid a chance to continue his career at the next level after a horrific accident.

    Woodberry's Rainey will join UVa football program as preferred walk-on - Cavalier Insider: Football

    Jacob Rainey��s amazing tale is getting a Division I football chapter.

    www.dailyprogress.com
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  • PlayaHtr said...

    Your the dumbass

    That would be you're, idiot.

    And he was the associate head coach of defense, which is essentially the DC.

    Yes, my own fans hate me, especially the 20 friends if mine that are currently posting on here and the grounds.

    My real life blows so badly. If you only knew.

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