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mm87vt said...
Is the writing on the wall for Lazor? I don't think it's a secret London's made some decisions that have negatively impacted Lazor's offense most notably flip flopping QB's for two straight years. Any word on Lazor actively looking to get out of C'ville?
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Flip flopping the first year was Lazor's call, last year from all indications was there was some tension between the two over Rocco and Sims, but London didn't want to play Sims because he promised him anything. We were struggling at the time, it seemed to work well starting with NC State and some games it didn't. I think he would listen to NFL offers if they came calling for an OC job, but he does make pretty good money at UVA $500K a year before bonuses, and he also has 4 more years on his contract.
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Is it not funny to see post from chokies (1-27, soon to be 1-28) like the one above. They cant accept the fact that they are being outflanked on every side. Now lets remember these hokie fans have had to witness their beloved hokies choke on the big stage for over two decades. They piled up ten win seasons by eating cupcakes for two decades. Now these same people who want their entire staff canned are experts at coaching hires at other schools. You had your chance and you failed. You could not deliver at crunch time. You got blown off the big stage by real big time teams. Now you have a new coaching staff up the road that is going to finish you off and put you out of your misery. Go Hoos...
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HNB with all due respect, that old white guy comment came from 5284 and hasn't been confirmed he also claimed it upset Corey Marshall the player in question. Which for us to be his second choice he must have been pretty tore up about the comment. It just doesn't add up. Not that it matters in the first place.
I wish the season was upon us already, so you and the other Hokies that think it's going to be all doom and gloom for the Hoo's this year can be proven wrong.
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PlayaHtr said...
Hmm: First 3 years coaching at UVA Mike London 16-21 at VT Frank Beamer 11-22. In this day and age Frank wouldn't have even been coaching a 4th season at VT after that record in his first 3 years.
All London has to do is win 6 games this upcoming season and he gains again on Frank after 4 seasons. And then only has to win 7 games the next two seasons combined to match how many Frank won in his 5th and 6th seasons in Blacksburg.
My point is London isn't as bad as you guys make him out to be and if message boards were around from 1986-1993 there would be nobody on your message boards. VT also lost 5 of 6 to UVA in Franks first 6 years. So if we want to do comparisons let's do them with real facts at the same stage in each coaches career at the schools.
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Hokie5284 said...
Exactly, that's all Tenuta does, blitz like shit. He has been canned at 3 straight jobs.
I'd grade the hires
TOB- B to B+ Tenuta- D UTEP guy-Don't know enough about him Hagans- Unproven so can't really gauge him, but I think taking a shot on a young kid like that is a good idea somewhere on the staff. So I give the idea a B
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So he wasnt canned, but he wasnt retained? Exactly what is that then?
Bash all things UVA, or be realistic? I just said TOB hire was a B to B+, and Hagans was a B, thats hardly bashing. I wouldve said said they all sucked if I was just looking to trash yall. I know you love to spin everything UVA, but come on man.
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Steelcav, i will say this about 5284...he is honest. He even bashes his hokies out of honesty, so doing it to the Hoos is not difficult at all. I ask...why do uva fans think vt fears them? Remove the rivalry aspect...you cant actually think this, do you?
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HNB said...
The way that went down just makes one think you all wanted a contingency plan in case things got worse in the early goings next year....which is a great idea. If you all start off really bad next year and London is the same on the sidelines, just hand off to TOB. If things go well its money well spent. This was a good hire.
Tenuta: I think you should have kept Reid if this was the best you could do...unless TOB wanted this as part of his deal to come?
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So he wasnt canned, but he wasnt retained? Exactly what is that then?
Bash all things UVA, or be realistic? I just said TOB hire was a B to B+, and Hagans was a B, thats hardly bashing. I wouldve said said they all sucked if I was just looking to trash yall. I know you love to spin everything UVA, but come on man.
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Here are Tenutas last 2 takeovers, he was not retained after his first year as DC at either.
NCST 2011- Pre Tentuta as DC- 58th ranked D 2012- Tenuta as DC- 77th ranked D
ND 2008- Pre Tenuta- 42nd ranked D 2009- Tenuta as DC- 66th ranked D
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