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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    (and is a great read)

    Sorry. Not buying it. No way a guy who can read believes that the government had/has nothing to do with mortgage lending.

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  • TJ-2-F-AU said...

    Sorry. Not buying it. No way a guy who can read believes that the government had/has nothing to do with mortgage lending.

    So, in other words, rather than actually do some research and get into the economics of the situation, you will blatantly say, "NO SORRY HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH MY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS I DON'T BUY IT NO NO NO!!!" Then, you will call people who disagree with you uninformed and condescend all the time. That's one of the more hypocritical things I've ever heard.

    I'm not liberal fiscally or economically. I don't like the health care bill. I will not be voting for Obama in 2012.

    But I will freely admit the private sector caused the housing crisis.

    This post was edited by ramssuperbowl99 on 5/6/2012 at 10:36 AM

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    So, in other words, rather than actually do some research and get into the economics of the situation, you will blatantly say, "NO SORRY HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH MY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS I DON'T BUT IT NO NO NO"

    I'm not liberal fiscally or economically. I don't like the health care bill. I will not be voting for Obama in 2012.

    But I will freely admit the private sector caused the housing crisis.

    No. In other words, what you posted is embarrassingly stupid, irrespective of political affiliation or voting habits. I don't need to provide links to explain that the government has everything to do with mortgage lending or to make you look foolish. You're doing a Hell of a job all by your lonesome.

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  • TJ-2-F-AU said...
    I don't need to provide links to explain that the government has everything to do with mortgage lending or to make you look foolish.

    Yes you do. You are making a claim that the government caused the financial crisis of 2008. Back it up with some evidence. Convince me.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Yes you do. You are making a claim that the government caused the financial crisis of 2008. Back it up with some evidence. Convince me.

    I'm not making that argument. I'm laughing at your argument, which is ridiculous on its face. You must be 12. That would explain why you're not voting for Obama.

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  • TJ-2-F-AU said...

    I'm not making that argument. I'm laughing at your argument, which is ridiculous on its face. You must be 12. That would explain why you're not voting for Obama.

    That's fine. I'll just sit here waiting for actual evidence.

    I appreciate the condescending tone by the way. I can tell from your posts that you are very smart and mature.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • maize&blue21 said...

    Perfect example of what I was talking about. What would you have done to solve the economic problem?

    Cut welfare, kick out all illegals, tax cut for small and big businesses, raise tax on imported goods, collect money other countries owe us, and put my foot in Iraqs ass

    LScootU

  • TJ-2-F-AU said...

    I'm not making that argument. I'm laughing at your argument, which is ridiculous on its face. You must be 12. That would explain why you're not voting for Obama.

    No, he's not 12. What happened is that someone wasted a few minutes of their tike explaining economics and the government's role in the most recent economic crash then he, in all of his 65 IQ glory, regurgitated it on here, getting most of the facts wrong and even struggling with the terminology. The result is the absolute greatest WTF moment of my weekend so far. Thanks for the laugh.

    This post was edited by bvg153555 on 5/6/2012 at 11:04 AM

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  • bhiley77 said...

    It's delightfully hillarious how the 2008 crash was quite obviously caused by multiple factors, but ideologues on either side simply discard the causes that aren't convenient to their ideology. For instance, your analysis sidesteps Fannie and Freddie, the ownership society that began with Clinton that both parties own, and the fact that companies were encouraged to give these loans by politicians of all stripes, the fact in many cases they'd be called mean racists if they didn't, etc etc. It's so much more fun to just cherry pick facts that make it the bad guy's fault.

    Fannie and Freddie contributed to the housing market's collapse, but were not the primary cause.

    Companies gave these loans out at their own accord, there was no political pressure. In fact, the smartest thing GWB ever did was call meetings in his administration to try and slow down the rate at which these companies were giving out loans.

    By the way, since most people who criticize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have no idea what those companies actually did, I'd like you to tell me.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Yes you do. You are making a claim that the government caused the financial crisis of 2008. Back it up with some evidence. Convince me.

    Why would he waste his time convincing you of anything? You obviously are lacking the mental capacity required to see things logically, as evidenced by your previous posts in this thread. Your kind is beyond hope and to try to change your mind is a waste of energy. Besides, making fun of you is so much more fun.

    bvg153555

  • Super Scooter said...
    collect money other countries owe us

    In response to this, European markets fail instantly, leading to a gigantic recession in the US.

    Congrats.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • [bvg] said...

    Why would he waste his time convincing you of anything? You obviously are lacking the mental capacity required to see things logically, as evidenced by your previous posts in this thread. Your kind is beyond hope and to try to change your mind is a waste of energy. Besides, making fun of you is so much more fun.

    Says a birther.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Says a birther.

    See, you'll believe anything your gods put in front of you. It is much more logical to attempt to verify than to believe without question. You wouldn't understand that. You're the dumbest mfr on this board outside of bamalives. Why don't you go borrow his shotgun once he gets done with it?

    This post was edited by bvg153555 on 5/6/2012 at 11:07 AM

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  • [bvg] said...

    See, you'll believe anything your gods put in front of you. It is much more logical to verify than to believe without question. You wouldn't understand that. You're the dumbest mfr on this board outside of bamalives. Why don't you go borrow his shotgun once he gets done with it?

    WAIT. I GET IT. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW. GEORGE BUSH IS ACTUALLY A MUSLIM. HE WASN'T BORN IN AMERICA AND THAT'S WHY HE NEVER PRESENTED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

    Thanks for opening me eyes there. I appreciate it.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    In response to this, European markets fail instantly, leading to a gigantic recession in the US.

    Congrats.

    Oh well sorry Europe, we can sustain ourselves, or world war 3

    LScootU

  • Super Scooter said...

    Oh well sorry Europe, we can sustain ourselves, or world war 3

    You missed the part where I said, "leading to a gigantic recession in the US".

    Also, Obama's plan lead to a marginal health care takeover. Yours leads to a massive recession or WW3. And you criticize him.hammer

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    WAIT. I GET IT. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW. GEORGE BUSH IS ACTUALLY A MUSLIM. HE WASN'T BORN IN AMERICA AND THAT'S WHY HE NEVER PRESENTED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

    Thanks for opening me eyes there. I appreciate it.

    I don't give a rat's ass if both of them are Muslims, but we know GWB isn't and we know Obama is. That's completely irrelevant though. We also know, without question, that GWB was born in the US and we also know no one ever asked him to provide one. Thus, one was never provided. We also know that Obama refused to provided one when asked. Yet again, when logic is brought into a discussion, you lose. Of course, that's what you expect. Logic is like kryptonite to a liberal.

    bvg153555

  • bhiley77 said...

    Well I'd be delighted to tell you what Fannie and Freddie did, but why? With your statement "there was no political pressure" its pretty obvious you agree with my mockery of you, that the crash of 2008 happened because The Bad Guys simply wouldn't listen to the prescient cries of The Good Guys. You'd probably send me a New Republic article explaining why I'm wrong, too, possibly Mother Jones if I'm lucky.

    What did Fannie and Freddie do? And where did their funds come from?

    ramssuperbowl99

  • [bvg] said...

    I don't give a rat's ass if both of them are Muslims, but we know GWB isn't and we know Obama is. That's completely irrelevant though. We also know, without question, that GWB was born in the US and we also know no one ever asked him to provide one. Thus, one was never provided. We also know that Obama refused to provided one when asked. Yet again, when logic is brought into a discussion, you lose. Of course, that's what you expect. Logic is like kryptonite to a liberal.

    I'm not liberal.

    How do we know George Bush isn't if he hasn't provided a birth certificate? How do we KNOW that he was born in the US?

    The reason Obama refused to provide one is because by doing so he would justify you fringe-movement full of idiots like yourself. He's going to keep ignoring you, as he should.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • You conservative guys do realize Obama has released his birth certificate right?

    TalHawkins112

  • [bvg] said...

    Why would he waste his time convincing you of anything? You obviously are lacking the mental capacity required to see things logically, as evidenced by your previous posts in this thread. Your kind is beyond hope and to try to change your mind is a waste of energy. Besides, making fun of you is so much more fun.

    If he starts agreeing with me, I'll question my own intellect. I prefer things this way.

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  • TalHawkins112 said...

    You conservative guys do realize Obama has released his birth certificate right?

    Congrats?

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    You missed the part where I said, "leading to a gigantic recession in the US".

    Also, Obama's plan lead to a marginal health care takeover. Yours leads to a massive recession or WW3. And you criticize him.hammer

    Why are some states taking this health care bill to the Supreme Court??

    LScootU

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    I'm not liberal.

    How do we know George Bush isn't if he hasn't provided a birth certificate? How do we KNOW that he was born in the US?

    The reason Obama refused to provide one is because by doing so he would justify you fringe-movement full of idiots like yourself. He's going to keep ignoring you, as he should.

    Good lord, I'm used to dumbing things down for my two year old but I just can't get down to your level. You are a worthless liberal and if you don't know that, you're dumber than I originally thought. You're nothing short of a goddamned retard.

    bvg153555

  • Super Scooter said...

    Why are some states taking this health care bill to the Supreme Court??

    Because the individual mandate aspect of it may be unconstitutional.

    That said, and this just must be my "crazy liberal bias" talking:
    passing 2,000 page bill which may contain 1 unconstitutional mandate is better than starting world war 3.

    ramssuperbowl99