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JC Shurburtt said...
Excellent evaluators and they land good football players. Last cycle, the ranking jumped with some great additions at the end. I don't expect the Cardinal to finish No. 85.
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BamaBornDukie said...
Interesting numbers in terms of players signed. David Shaw would be my #1 choice to replace Saban if/when he retires. However, I have a feeling Shaw will be in the NFL before then.
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Coach-Gomez said...
I don't find this to be too much of a secret. They get smart kids that are tough. Most of those types of kids are not true 5 stars. I've always said the Duke secret for years was getting kids that just weren't good enough to skip early and enter the draft. They had the one fallout, but after that, guys that can stay four years in the program like Singler and the Plumlee brothers bodes well for development and team structure. You get that bond that others don't have....
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brem22 said...
The "smart Stanford football player" pablum that the media coughs up constantly is a bit of a myth. Luck, as in Andrew, had a lot to do with that. 98% of their guys have no where near the same intellect as him. Problem is that Stanford puts a huge weight on what kind of HS you are coming from. Why you see so many of their players and students coming from well regarded suburban public schools or private academies. And why their team appears so lily white when compared to most other D1 programs. A 'B' student at a good secondary school is going to have a hell of a lot easier time qualifying than a straight A student at an urban HS.
Regardless, there's a huge difference between "not being retarded" and smart. The majority of Stanford players are just normal dudes.
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usctrojan1 said...
Of all the football programs in the country, Stanford is by a great margin, the most impressive. Everyone else will bring in the barely literate to field a competitive team...but to do what Stanford has done, is simply amazing. They deserve the respect without us belittling those accomplishments.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Stanford has been very impressive and they aren't going away anytime soon.
From the excellent article - "Over the last five years, Stanford has signed a total of 102 prospects. Compare that to defending national champion Alabama who has signed 135 prospects
in that same span. That is a
33-player margin for error that Nick
Saban has had over David Shaw."
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usctrojan1 said...
Stanford fielding a top 10 football team, is equivalent to Harvard, Princeton or Yale, etc., fielding an impressive team. They're in that same rarefied academic air as those universities.
Kudos to them, I would rather they be the goal to aspire to than any other program in the country....
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Coach-Gomez said...
While I agree that Stanford academics are impressive, they're not to Princeton's caliber. We're talking one the best schools in the WORLD. BTW, Princeton when Carrill was there was a monster when it came to tourney time year in and year out. Ask UCLA and Georgetown.
amaker has Harvard in a spot this year. Not a good first round draw....
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usctrojan1 said...
That's ridiculous. Sorry, but Stanford is in the same prestigious rank as Princeton, Harvard, Yale, etc...only difference is, the "Ivy League" title that is purely east coast and attended by generations of wealth and success, but the academics are on par. Stanford is in that group that were founding members of AAU in 1905, and admittance is based on academic merit with little less of the old boy rich club that is prevalent in the others.
As far as fundraising, and generosity of the alums to their alma mater, Stanford's only rival is Harvard..every year it fluctuates between those two universities.
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Coach-Gomez said...
Look at the top schools in the country. Princeton, Harvard and Yale are in the top 6. Stanford, no. Is it a great school? Yes. Its not Princeton. And it's not even close.
This post was edited by usctrojan1 on 12/17/2012 at 1:25 PM
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Look at the top schools in the country. Princeton, Harvard and Yale are in the top 6. Stanford, no. Is it a great school? Yes. Its not Princeton. And it's not even close.
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Coach-Gomez said...
Looking at the ranking and Duke is 7. They're the number 1 school in the country year in and year out for the past 28 years in hoops. Amaker and Dawkins got it going there and they never fell off, but one year when K left for medical reasons.
Princeton, Yale and Harvard are atop almost every single year. Stanford is a GREAT school, but it's not Princeton great. Just because they're behind only a couple spots doesn't mean they're that close. The gap is larger than you think. Look at SAT enrollees scores for proof and acceptance rate.
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