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The annual Boise State Schedule Thread

  • Nod4Eight said...

    There is some serious stupidity in this thread, but I'll leave much of it alone because, well, I don't care if you are stupid or not. I do find it amusing how much people discuss Boise's schedule. How many of you have petitioned your AD to schedule them?

    Dude, you play in a high school stadium with bright blue matching turf. And you expect AQ schools to play on that garbage. roflmao

    Jagstyle

  • I actually don't think that schedule is that bad. They only have so much control over what conference they're in, so I don't fault them for that (I'm 100000% sure they would join a major conference in a heart beat if one would take them). I applaud the fact that they don't have a single FCS opponent on the schedule. I applaud the fact they will be going on the road to play a major conference school. I applaud the fact they have two non-conference road games, that both of them are outside their region, and that both of them are against teams that finished in the top-20 in the final AP standings last year. I applaud the fact that they are playing BYU, a team that is always a tough out.

    Boise St has played some weak schedules in the past, but this one, especially the non-conference portion (their 4 non-cons were a combined 39-14 last year), isn't that bad.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    The BSU fan was referring to the # of guys who have started for BSU on the oline, similar to what MSU guys claim for proving their depth. Very similar things.

    No, he actually said they run an OL by committee. Considering a big part of a good OL is continuity, them starting their backups against scrub teams doesn't exactly threaten me.

    What we were claiming is that we have 7 OL who have starts. From what I remember, that them descended into some pissing contest about the definition of a starter which I didn't pay attention to.

    So let me be clear:

    MSU returns 7 OL who have started at least 1 game in 2011. We have 4 returning starters (i.e., players who started on the OL for more than 50% of our games).

    BSU returns 9 OL who got some form of start. According to their bowl game depth chart, this is who is a senior and was listed as a starter, and therefore gone:

    QB Kellen Moore
    WR Tyler Shoemaker
    LT Nate Potter
    C Corey Yriarte
    RG Chuck Hayes
    TE Kyle Efaw
    RB Doug Martin

    (7 offense starters listed as such on final depth chart)

    DE Tyrone Crawford
    DT Billy Winn
    DT Chase Baker
    DE Shea McClellin
    LB Byron Hout
    LB Aaron Tevis
    S Cedric Febis
    S Travis Stanaway
    NB Hunter White
    CB George Iloka

    (10 defensive starters listed as such on final depth chart)

    Also they lost their punter Brad Elkin.

    Total lost starters - 18.

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  • Macks said...

    So let me be clear:

    MSU returns 7 OL who have started at least 1 game in 2011.

    BSU returns 9 OL who got some form of start.

    Seems pretty similar to me.

    xxmgobluexx

  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    winningest team lol Nebraska would be the winningest team playing that joke of a schedule. Nebraska hasn't lost to a WAC team since Arizona State was in the WAC in 1975.

    They want a big time program to go there and play in front of 37,000 people lol we get double that when we play ourselves in a spring game. What would a big time team gain from going to Boise?

    Exactly. If you gave BSU's schedule to every FBS school, you would have 12-15 undefeated teams at the end of the year. No one is saying BSU is not a good program. What people are saying is it's impossible to tell how good because their schedule is a joke.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    C) Tell BSU to go eff themselves

    Sorry, but it's not Nebraska's or Alabama's or Michigan's job to make sure BSU has a competitive schedule every year. It's BSU's. BSU needs to get itself into a decent conference (see TCU, Utah) or accept the fact that its conference sucks and do whatever is necessary to secure three top quality OOC opponents every year. One is not enough when the remainder of your schedule is full of Wyoming, Nevada, UNLV and the like. And if that means BSU has to cut their fee to $700,000 to get a Nebraska or Alabama to play them, that's life.

    If the Nebraska's or Alabama's or Michigan's refuse to even play Boise State, then they lose all rights to complain about their schedules.

    And Boise State has tried to better their conference, but most of the teams left for other conferences. Boise State can't force themselves in a better conference, it's up to the better conferences to send an invite to Boise. It's not as simple as, "Oh our schedule sucks, lets schedule the top four teams in the country." It's a two way street, and it's the same way with conferences.

    I don't know about you, but I would much rather have Michigan face Boise State, rather than some crap team like UMass or some cupcake like that. Look what happened with VT and BSU, the ratings for that game set records and got both of those schools a big truckload of cash.

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  • thejumper5 said...

    I actually don't think that schedule is that bad. They only have so much control over what conference they're in, so I don't fault them for that (I'm 100000% sure they would join a major conference in a heart beat if one would take them). I applaud the fact that they don't have a single FCS opponent on the schedule. I applaud the fact they will be going on the road to play a major conference school. I applaud the fact they have two non-conference road games, that both of them are outside their region, and that both of them are against teams that finished in the top-20 in the final AP standings last year. I applaud the fact that they are playing BYU, a team that is always a tough out.

    Boise St has played some weak schedules in the past, but this one, especially the non-conference portion (their 4 non-cons were a combined 39-14 last year), isn't that bad.

    I agree.

    Give Boise State a chance to join the Pac 12 or so (which their wrestling program is already in). They would jump for the chance.

    Not only would they get a major boost in revenue each year, but it would also open up a lot better recruiting grounds for them, and actually gives them a chance to win a MNC. But nah, I am sure they are happy making little money, getting scorned by any good recruit, and getting no respect what so ever.

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  • Good lord are you still trying to say that somehow Boise plays anything remotely close to a tough schedule?

    I don't think you realize how many teams would go undefeated with that schedule.

    Also.. Big teams LOSE MONEY if they do a home and home with BSU. No big school will go play in that high school stadium of 37k.. The visiting team will LOSE money while Boise would make money by coming to a big time teams stadium.

    Why is this so hard for Boise to understand? You are nothing but a mid major with some Napoleon Syndrome... Do you think LSU or Bama would go play at Wyoming or Miami of Ohio or any of those shit teams? No, WE PAY TEAMS FROM YOUR CONFERENCE TO COME GET THEIR ASS WHOOPED AT OUR STADIUM FOR AN EASY WIN AND A TUNE UP GAME FOR OUR CONFERENCE.

    You're to big of a homer and you are completely oblivious to everything people are trying to tell you.

    I'm just glad the voters feel the same as we do.. Why the hell do you think you never get in the MNC game? Because you don't play anyone worth a crap, MAYBE 1 half way decent team a year.

    Boise is a great program, has great players but Boise simple does not have the resources to even think about anything I listed above.

    I mean, our stadium is TRIPLE the size of Smurf Town.

    Anyways, tired of arguing with dumb little Smurf people... Oh, and that V Tech team you beat last year, lost to James Madison the very next game.. GREAT win Boise.

    This post was edited by Lesticals on 6/26/2012 at 10:16 PM

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Seems pretty similar to me.

    I like how you completely ignored the part where I said we returned 4 actual starters. lol

    Nor did I say anywhere that we run "OL by committee" as some kind of justification that 9 returning OL actually means something even though only 5 will play.

    Macks

  • blue2468 said...

    If the Nebraska's or Alabama's or Michigan's refuse to even play Boise State, then they lose all rights to complain about their schedules.

    And Boise State has tried to better their conference, but most of the teams left for other conferences. Boise State can't force themselves in a better conference, it's up to the better conferences to send an invite to Boise. It's not as simple as, "Oh our schedule sucks, lets schedule the top four teams in the country." It's a two way street, and it's the same way with conferences.

    I don't know about you, but I would much rather have Michigan face Boise State, rather than some crap team like UMass or some cupcake like that. Look what happened with VT and BSU, the ratings for that game set records and got both of those schools a big truckload of cash.

    if BSU wants to play good teams don't ask for a bunch of money or playing in fvckin Idaho in front of 37000 people.

    Why would Nebraska play BSU over Idaho when they know the stadium will sell out either way its simple business. No one owes Boise any favors. They want the respect they need to go earn it like everyone else.

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  • blue2468 said...

    Maybe, maybe not.

    But if you were in their shoes, you wouldn't have all the perks of being an AQ school (money, recruits, etc.).

    True, but ...

    A) If the "perks" are as big an advantage as you are suggesting, that's another argument why BSU probably is not really as good as the best teams from the AQ conferences every year; and
    B) We earned those "perks". No one handed them to us. Most of the power programs have spent over 100 years and literally billions of dollars building national brands and strong conferences with quality rivalries. It's not our fault (or problem) that newer programs like BSU have to play catch up.

    MrWoodson

  • Boise should join the Big 12 (along with ND). Add to their stadium, spray paint the field, and lose their annual 8 games. But why do that, when they can cherry pick 1 game per year and cry about why that should be enough. Idaho politics is boring.

    If you schedule crap, you get the toilet

    Jagstyle

  • Macks said...

    I like how you completely ignored the part where I said we returned 4 actual starters. lol

    Nor did I say anywhere that we run "OL by committee" as some kind of justification that 9 returning OL actually means something even though only 5 will play.

    I cut out the noise and posted the relative material. As stated, pretty similar.

    xxmgobluexx

  • MrWoodson said...

    True, but ...

    A) If the "perks" are as big an advantage as you are suggesting, that's another argument why BSU probably is not really as good as the best teams from the AQ conferences every year; and B) We earned those "perks". No one handed them to us. Most of the power programs have spent over 100 years and literally billions of dollars building national brands and strong conferences with quality rivalries. It's not our fault (or problem) that newer programs like BSU have to play catch up.

    clap

    xxmgobluexx

  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    if BSU wants to play good teams don't ask for a bunch of money or playing in fvckin Idaho in front of 37000 people.

    Why would Nebraska play BSU over Idaho when they know the stadium will sell out either way its simple business. No one owes Boise any favors. They want the respect they need to go earn it like everyone else.

    I think you deserve one also, clap.

    xxmgobluexx

  • blue2468 said...

    If the Nebraska's or Alabama's or Michigan's refuse to even play Boise State, then they lose all rights to complain about their schedules.

    And Boise State has tried to better their conference, but most of the teams left for other conferences. Boise State can't force themselves in a better conference, it's up to the better conferences to send an invite to Boise. It's not as simple as, "Oh our schedule sucks, lets schedule the top four teams in the country." It's a two way street, and it's the same way with conferences.

    I don't know about you, but I would much rather have Michigan face Boise State, rather than some crap team like UMass or some cupcake like that. Look what happened with VT and BSU, the ratings for that game set records and got both of those schools a big truckload of cash.

    We are not complaining. We are saying that, at the end of the year, when you sit down and try to decide which teams are the best, it is natural and logical to look at how many quality opponents each team played and beat. And it's normal and logical to conclude an undefeated team that played three or four ranked teams and beat them all has accomplished and proven itself more than a team that played and beat one.

    And as far as BSU not yet being able to get itself into a better conference, well, that's life. Utah and TCU both proved it can be done. Maybe BSU needs to invest in a bigger stadium. Or improve its other sports. Or improve its academics. But it's BSU's problem. Just like it's Houston's problem and UCF's problem, etc, etc.

    Also, BSU can schedule quality opponents if it wants to do so. It has proven as much (e.g. Oregon, VaTech, Georgia, MSU). But one per year is not enough.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 6/26/2012 at 10:37 PM

    MrWoodson

  • sullkev said...

    Boise should join the Big 12 (along with ND). Add to their stadium, spray paint the field, and lose their annual 8 games. But why do that, when they can cherry pick 1 game per year and cry about why that should be enough. Idaho politics is boring.

    If you schedule crap, you get the toilet

    My prediction - and I'm deadly serious - is that the B12 ends up adding UL and one of BSU, BYU or Cincy to get back to 12. No way is ND joining the B12 (for football) and I will be stunned if FSU or Clemson do either.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    Urbs won't last five years in the B10. We will chew him up and spit him out just like JoePa, the Zooker, Rich Rod and [very soon] Bo Pelini. Might as well throw Brian "Purple Face" Kelly on the list too. Another loss to Michigan or MSU and he might as well start packing his bags.

    Chewed up and spit out JoePa?

    Wow. A few conference titles and 4 in a row against Michigan before going out... You could've fooled me.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Chewed up and spit out JoePa?

    Wow. A few conference titles and 4 in a row against Michigan before going out... You could've fooled me.

    It was 3 in a row ... against RR. And that was only after Lloyd Carr won 9 straight against JoePa. If Lloyd hadn't retired or we had hired a competent replacement, it easily could have been 12 in a row. JoePa's last few teams were not his best.

    MrWoodson

  • I could've sworn we played Michigan that day, my mistake.

    I agree with your last statements though. We lost to Carr a few times when we were the better team, or at least had the team to do it more often than not. Too damn conservative.

    Looking forward to fake punts, and the no huddle FB dive hybrids BOB is coming up with to beat Hoke.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    I could've sworn we played Michigan that day, my mistake.

    I agree with your last statements though. We lost to Carr a few times when we were the better team, or at least had the team to do it more often than not. Too damn conservative.

    Looking forward to fake punts, and the no huddle FB dive hybrids BOB is coming up with to beat Hoke.

    I'm a huge PSU and JoePa fan. Sorry if I came off disrespectful. But the B10 has gotten a bad rep lately for being "easy". It's not. Unless you play in the conference, you don't realize what a grind it is. It's a defense first league, much like the SEC. PSU found that out when they joined. Nebraska is finding it out. And so will Urbie.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    I'm a huge PSU and JoePa fan. Sorry if I came off disrespectful. But the B10 has gotten a bad rep lately for being "easy". It's not. Unless you play in the conference, you don't realize what a grind it is. It's a defense first league, much like the SEC. PSU found that out when they joined. Nebraska is finding it out. And so will Urbie.

    You're good, just like talking trash to Michigan fans.

    I agree with you, but to be fair I said the same thing before I enrolled at PSU and was(still am) a huge OU fan. I said people don't realize how tough the Big12 South was. Every venue, except Waco, is a tough place to play, and despite the high scoring there are some pretty big hits.

    I'm excited to cram it down Urby's throat next season, time to show everybody what big boy football looks like.

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  • Everyone always talks about the importance of strength of schedule, not being preranked because of what happened last season, etc., but then they chuck those rules out the window when it comes to Boise. I can't figure out if it's a love for the underdog or a hatred for the establishment or both. Quite frankly, I don't care how many games Boise wins or how many teams they've knocked off in bowl games. Year in, year out, the meat of their schedule does not in any way warrant the way they're treated in the voting.

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  • boise will blow it like they always do, if there's anything we can count on aside from them being overrated every year is them blowing it to some loser team for at least one loss.

    This post was edited by gators92487 on 6/27/2012 at 2:52 AM

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  • thejumper5 said...

    I applaud the fact that they don't have a single FCS opponent on the schedule.

    They don't need to. Most of their schedule couldn't finish in the top 10 of the FCS.

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