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  • sf2k4 said...

    It was a raucous good time. Love me some NOLA.

    Oh yea I love NO, would never live anywhere else

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  • blue2468 said...

    As someone who actually LIVED in those type of communities, that is by far a load of crap.

    In fact I was say for every one bad apple, there are three people that actually use it correctly.

    Hey bud, I live and work here. I also grew up in inner-city Los Angeles. Considering my work, I guarantee I know the situation of tens of thousands of families in this situation far better than you do. I am not saying everybody on public assistance is a bad apple, what I am saying is that the system does not foster self-sufficiency and needs to be changed.

    This post was edited by stoptothink on 4/28/2012 at 10:48 PM

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Well, I have been wrong before, but they do abuse it in other ways. That is almost against the point though, the point is that it needs to be more heavily regulated. Mandatory drug tests and such.

    Yeah that worked out so well in Florida? What with the whole 2% failing the drug test thing? That ended up costing the state of Florida tens of thousands of dollars because of rather dim people believing in the myth that poor people use drugs more than middle class or even rich ones.

    I guess since they arent on drugs, we have to find some other way to hate on them that cant be proven. I know, we will say they are all driving nice cars and have Iphones. No way to prove that right or wrong, and it lets us all still sit there smugly and claim that those jerks are abusing the system.

    This post was edited by AlwaysMore on 4/29/2012 at 1:59 AM

    Drug Testing the Poor: Bad Policy, Even Worse Law | TIME Ideas | TIME.com

    Under a new Florida law, people applying for welfare have to take a drug test at their own expense. If they pass, they are eligible for benefits and the state reimburses them for the test. If they fail, they are denied welfare for a year, until they take another test.

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  • Not buying it Blue, I've seen it too many freaking times.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Not buying it Blue, I've seen it too many freaking times.

    I haven't seen it that often in upstate ny, but the family I referred to itt is good people... Just stupid.... So I can def see bad people taking advantage of it rather easily

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  • AlwaysMore said...

    Yeah that worked out so well in Florida? What with the whole 2% failing the drug test thing? That ended up costing the state of Florida tens of thousands of dollars because of rather dim people believing in the myth that poor people use drugs more than middle class or even rich ones.

    I guess since they arent on drugs, we have to find some other way to hate on them that cant be proven. I know, we will say they are all driving nice cars and have Iphones. No way to prove that right or wrong, and it lets us all still sit there smugly and claim that those jerks are abusing the system.

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  • USMCAG said...

    This is a very good post. In my opinion this is a severe problem in our coutnry. If you are able to work, then do whatever job is available to you. I'm not saying to clean toilets if you have a PHD right off the bat, but take what you can get. I'm above no job, period.

    Look you read how I feel about this .
    what makes this any more important than any other young person that gets shot and killed in O-Town ?

    gubberjk

  • Super Scooter said...

    Yes I sell to him and I have worked there while is father was passing away with cancer. They sell cooked and raw seafood. Where I live we have these places, I don't need to lie to look cool on a message board. Look it up online name is called bayou brothers seafood in chalmette,LA.

    So come at me bro

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  • USMCAG said...

    Are you lazy?

    has nothing to do with being lazy. Military is not for everyone. I've commented a few times to you in other threads that I appreciate your service, something I'm too chickenshit to do.

    When I was 18, I worked two jobs to pay bills. Even though I worked two jobs I was still lazy. I worked at a paint store and delivered pizza at nights.

    Now I have my own company and have 14 people that work for me. I'm contributing to society and the economy in a different way.

    Military is a great option for people but it's not for everyone and does not mean in every case that people are lazy b/c they don't want to enlist in the military.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • ejb5212 said...

    Let's be real here, hard work is working hard, regardless of what you do.

    Nail on the head.

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  • ejb5212 said...

    I haven't seen it that often in upstate ny, but the family I referred to itt is good people... Just stupid.... So I can def see bad people taking advantage of it rather easily

    Depends on what part of NY you're in. Some areas are dirt poor and the people use it correctly, but in others a lot of scumbags use it so they can buy their cigs and drugs. I know a lot of people use it for good, one of my best friends' uses it, but there a also a lot of people that abuse it.

    This post was edited by MaizeandBlue21 on 4/29/2012 at 9:01 AM

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  • I disagree with force military, our country is built on the freedom of choice and nobody should be forced to do something they don't want to, outside of a draft.

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  • AlwaysMore said...

    Yeah that worked out so well in Florida? What with the whole 2% failing the drug test thing? That ended up costing the state of Florida tens of thousands of dollars because of rather dim people believing in the myth that poor people use drugs more than middle class or even rich ones.

    I guess since they arent on drugs, we have to find some other way to hate on them that cant be proven. I know, we will say they are all driving nice cars and have Iphones. No way to prove that right or wrong, and it lets us all still sit there smugly and claim that those jerks are abusing the system.

    No, i am gonna drug test someone because they are receiving money from the government. I get to make the regulations, you do not get a say so. Not because the poor use more drugs than any other class. Grow a brain and try and realize it isn't discrimination. Stop reaching

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  • theFightingtide said...

    No, i am gonna drug test someone because they are receiving money from the government. I get to make the regulations, you do not get a say so. Not because the poor use more drugs than any other class. Grow a brain and try and realize it isn't discrimination. Stop reaching

    Exactly, the government doesn't need to give you aid, if you want aid you follow their rules, and i agree with that rule completely.

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  • ejb5212 said...

    Exactly, the government doesn't need to give you aid, if you want aid you follow their rules, and i agree with that rule completely.

    Exactly, and people wanna bring in discrimination crap, give me a break. That has nothing to do with this, if you want the money, then follow the guidelines, we shouldn't just hand it to you no questions asked.

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  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    We aren't even close to heading towards mandatory service. All four branches are currently, what we call "realigning the force" aka down-sizing. The army is kicking 80,000+ out as we speak.

    Brilliant idea when we are in the middle of a war...but what should one expect from the fools on Capitol Hill right now. shrug

    Nicolae

  • Nicolae said...

    Brilliant idea when we are in the middle of a war...but what should one expect from the fools on Capitol Hill right now. shrug

    shrug

    stoptothink

  • theFightingtide said...

    No, i am gonna drug test someone because they are receiving money from the government. I get to make the regulations, you do not get a say so. Not because the poor use more drugs than any other class. Grow a brain and try and realize it isn't discrimination. Stop reaching

    Oh...so you want to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars on these drug tests, that are stopping 2% of these welfare people?

    Where is your fiscal responsibility now? They are not finding massive drug use among the poor, and they are not accomplishing anything with these stupid tests, except making idiots feel better that they are proving some point that they cant even verbalize.

    Its not about discrimination...its about people like you that use zero common sense when they come up with idiotic ideas like drug testing welfare recipients.

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  • AlwaysMore said...

    Oh...so you want to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars on these drug tests, that are stopping 2% of these welfare people?

    Where is your fiscal responsibility now? They are not finding massive drug use among the poor, and they are not accomplishing anything with these stupid tests, except making idiots feel better that they are proving some point that they cant even verbalize.

    Its not about discrimination...its about people like you that use zero common sense when they come up with idiotic ideas like drug testing welfare recipients.

    You obviously have live area all your life, because i can assure you the majority of people on welfare in my area, at least more than 2% are doing some sort of illegal substance. And if not as many people were on welfare as they shouldn't be in the first place, then there would be money to spend to have the drug tests done!

    You are a complete tool, and have been for your one month on here. Hopefully you get banned, I have not seen you be anything but argumentative in nearly any thread.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    You are a complete tool, and have been for your one month on here. Hopefully you get banned, I have not seen you be anything but argumentative in nearly any thread.

    So he brings fact to the subject, while you bring unfounded speculation, and yet HE is the one that is the tool?

    And so apparently you want anyone that disagrees with you to be banned, nice.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    You obviously have live area all your life, because i can assure you the majority of people on welfare in my area, at least more than 2% are doing some sort of illegal substance. And if not as many people were on welfare as they shouldn't be in the first place, then there would be money to spend to have the drug tests done!

    You are a complete tool, and have been for your one month on here. Hopefully you get banned, I have not seen you be anything but argumentative in nearly any thread.

    Ah okay...so we gotta take your word for it, rather than the actual results from the Florida experiment. You know, because YOU have this vast experience with welfare people being on drugs.

    So what are the reasons for giving these drug tests to welfare recipients? Why do it? The welfare recipients ARENT on drugs in Florida.....but you still, for your own petty reasons, put them in this category where they must be drug tested. So why? It costs more money to do so, and is accomplishing nothing. You have not given a single reason............can you get past your initial petty prejudices and explain why drug testing is a good thing?

    And I hope you get banned. So there.

    AlwaysMore

  • blue2468 said...

    So he brings fact to the subject, while you bring unfounded speculation, and yet HE is the one that is the tool?

    And so apparently you want anyone that disagrees with you to be banned, nice.

    Why don't you answer to anyone else who had actual experiences with the true facts in this thread? Who gave you examples about what they see.

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  • Super Scooter said...

    It's a blue card that says Louisiana Purchase in white on the top with a yellow Louisiana on the bottom right corner, and has black numbers. Down here you can buy food raw seafood or cooked searood at seafood shops, hot plates at grocery store, I have no idea. You obviously have not been down here or stayed for a long period of time.

    The 10th of every month Walmart is full of people buying groceries and you can see the vehicles in the parking lot. Usually a lot of nice ones, funny thing is the 10th is when people get their food stamp money credited to their card. Walmart literally runs out of groceries from people, I've been I know. If you want groceries go before the 10th or a week after, never that day or the week after, there will not be anything to buy.

    So please don't talk down on me or act like I don't know what I'm talken about. I don't lie to make a point

    Once again, you CANNOT buy any hot foods on food stamps, even in Louisiana.

    "Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
    Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco;
    Any nonfood items, such as:
    pet foods;
    soaps, paper products; and
    household supplies.
    Vitamins and medicines;
    Food that will be eaten in the store;
    Hot foods."

    And you are merely speculating that the nice cars belong to the people owning food stamps, it would be like me seeing a Ferrari outside a gas station and when I walk in I see a homeless person buying some gum and then assuming that the homeless person owns the Ferrari, nevermind that I never see him getting in the car or not.

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  • AlwaysMore said...

    Ah okay...so we gotta take your word for it, rather than the actual results from the Florida experiment. You know, because YOU have this vast experience with welfare people being on drugs.

    So what are the reasons for giving these drug tests to welfare recipients? Why do it? The welfare recipients ARENT on drugs in Florida.....but you still, for your own petty reasons, put them in this category where they must be drug tested. So why? It costs more money to do so, and is accomplishing nothing. You have not given a single reason............can you get past your initial petty prejudices and explain why drug testing is a good thing?

    And I hope you get banned. So there.

    You truly have no clue. Lets say you come to me and ask for money, alright I will give you some. However, you are going to follow some guidelines that I have set before you to get that money. I am not sorry if you don't agree with that, get over it. When you ask for my money, I get to tell you how you get it. It is truly simple.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Why don't you answer to anyone else who had actual experiences with the true facts in this thread? Who gave you examples about what they see.

    What are your ACTUAL examples?

    Are you hanging out in crack dens of welfare recipients?

    Why is your very limited, very biased personal experience so much more valuable than actual real world examples of this drug testing welfare recipients costing the state of Florida tens of thousands of dollars, because everyone is passing the tests?

    AlwaysMore