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Thoughts on this NCAA letter to Miami

  • Doesn't seem legal. shrug

    Via Miami Herald
    The NCAA has delivered a new and disturbing ultimatum to numerous former University of Miami football players: Either talk to us or we’ll believe Nevin Shapiro’s claims against you.

    The NCAA last week mailed a letter to former players that allegedly committed NCAA violations by accepting gifts from Shapiro, including dinners, prostitutes, trips to nightclubs, cash and other perks. Shapiro told the NCAA that 114 players committed violations; Yahoo previously identified 72 of them.

    Only players who were playing college football at the time the investigation was launched are required to speak to the NCAA. Thirteen current or former UM football players did so in 2011. So the players who were sent the letter last week are no longer playing college football; some are in the NFL.

    The letter, which I obtained, gives the players a Friday deadline to speak to the NCAA. What’s surprising is that the NCAA states in the letter that it will conclude the players committed violations if they do not respond.

    UM officials were privately hopeful that many of the allegations made against players who left UM several years ago cannot be corroborated. Unless the NCAA is bluffing, it appears it might take Shapiro’s word on these claims unless the players refute them.

    In recent days, several players and their attorneys have been trying to decide whether to speak to the NCAA. Even Tuesday, one said he's not sure what he will do. So it’s unclear how many players will speak to the NCAA.

    Here’s how the letter to one player attorney reads:

    "The purpose of this letter is to apprise you that the NCAA enforcement staff is requesting to schedule an interview with your clients regarding their knowledge of or involvement in possible NCAA violations concerning the University of Miami, Florida, football program.

    "Interviewing your clients is important in order for the enforcement staff to conduct a thorough investigation, and both the staff and the institution request you and your clients’ cooperation in this matter. However, at this time, all attempts to schedule and execute interviews with blank have been unsuccessful. As a result, this letter serves as a formal and final request by the NCAA enforcement staff for interviews with blank to be completed by Nov. 23, 2012.

    “If we do not hear back from you or your clients by that time, the staff will consider the non-response as your client’s admission of involvement in NCAA violations. You may contact me at blank in order to arrange this interview. Your assistance in this matter is appreciated.”

    WillieMuffcramp

  • Fwiw
    Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
    Compliance expert: NCAA giving ultimatum to ex Miami players a “desperate” move; “to cover their investment”

    WillieMuffcramp

  • Nothing the NCAA does is legal. Welcome to SC world

    dukeb15

  • LScootU

  • LScootU said...

    lol at Miami

    slap At least people in Miami know how to evacuate.

    WillieMuffcramp

  • Everyone applauded when they threw out the rules when dealing with PSU. Now it's your turn. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. Don't worry though. I'm sure Mark Emmert is a man of honesty and integrity. It should all work out just fine.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 11/21/2012 at 10:36 AM

    MrWoodson

  • This a great news for Miami, after 20 months of investigation it clear the NCAA giving ultimatum to ex Miami players is a desperate move to cover their investment. Miami will sue them big time and win.

    I Look And Smell Like Money

    abs_da_don

  • MrWoodson said...

    Everyone applauded when they threw out the rules when dealing with PSU. Now it's your turn. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. Good luck!

    Child rape > boats and hoes. But I think this has lawsuit all over it IMO.

    WillieMuffcramp

  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    Child rape > boats and hoes. But I think this has lawsuit all over it IMO.

    Lawsuit? Who is going to sue whom? And upon what legal basis?

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 11/21/2012 at 10:38 AM

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    Everyone applauded when they threw out the rules when dealing with PSU. Now it's your turn. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. Good luck!

    I agree. IF the program at PSU needed to be punished, I think they got it right, but I didn't like the Roger Goodell type approach to it then and unfortunately that has now set a precedence for other cases.

    BetterOff

  • MrWoodson said...

    Lawsuit? Who is going to sue whom? And upon what basis?

    You're joking right ?

    I Look And Smell Like Money

    abs_da_don

  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    slap At least people in Miami know how to evacuate.

    Yep they get in their boats and go back to Cuba

    LScootU

  • Miami is screwed.

    GO NOLES!

    1st_and_NOLE

  • LScootU said...

    Yep they get in their boats and go back to Cuba

    Please don't continue, you're giving the good people of Louisiana a bad name

    I Look And Smell Like Money

    abs_da_don

  • I don't see the issue. They are requesting to speak with clients. If they refuse to cooperate, they will assume admission of guilt. If there is no guilt, why not cooperate?

    Sounds like the NCAA is trying to get somewhere on this. What is wrong with that?

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    MarineMountie

  • abs_da_don said...

    You're joking right ?

    No. Please tell me. Who is going to sue whom? What is the basis of the lawsuit?

    MrWoodson

  • I don't know how people don't get this yet. If you have plyers or former players that don't cooperate with the NCAA they will take the word of the other accusers.

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    kitemac

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    I like Cubans way better than I do French people.

    No flame.

    Cubans = cigars
    French = list goes on forever
    But then again your cuban

    LScootU

  • MarineMountie said...

    I don't see the issue. They are requesting to speak with clients. If they refuse to cooperate, they will assume admission of guilt. If there is no guilt, why not cooperate?

    Sounds like the NCAA is trying to get somewhere on this. What is wrong with that?

    This.

    It's pretty cut and dry. The NCAA is prepping the hammer.

    GO NOLES!

    1st_and_NOLE

  • MrWoodson said...

    No. Please tell me. Who is going to sue whom? What is the basis of the lawsuit?

    So when did extortion become legal and when did the word of billion-dollar ponzi schemer become the truth ?

    I Look And Smell Like Money

    abs_da_don

  • 1st_and_NOLE said...

    This.

    It's pretty cut and dry. The NCAA is prepping the hammer.

    Yep. Miami fans talking lawsuits are just wishfully thinking. NCAA is giving the players an opportunity to tell their side. If they refuse, its an obvious admission of guilt.

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    MarineMountie

  • abs_da_don said...

    Please don't continue, you're giving the good people of Louisiana a bad name

    Stay out of a convo your not part of

    LScootU

  • kitemac said...

    I don't know how people don't get this yet. If you have plyers or former players that don't cooperate with the NCAA they will take the word of the other accusers.

    Yes the word of billion-dollar ponzi schemer.

    I Look And Smell Like Money

    abs_da_don

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Sodomizing children in the football locker room, covered up by the head coach, AD, President & campus police >>>>> Miami situation

    It's not the point. At a minimum, the NCAA should have to abide by its own rules. There was no justification for the NCAA not following its own rules in the PSU case. But if they didn't have to do that in the PSU case then they don't have to do it in any other case. You can't have it both ways.

    MrWoodson

  • abs_da_don said...

    So when did extortion become legal and when did the word of billion-dollar ponzi schemer become the truth ?

    This isn't the court. They don't have to talk but NCAA doesn't have to have rock solid evidence either. USC got busted because of some shady MFers too. Cooperate with them and it will go a lot better for you usually. Don't and you will most likely get screwed. Pretty simple.

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    kitemac