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Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant based on careers

  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    i see that and raise you Ronald "Flip" Murray being 3rd on the team in minutes on a team LeBron took to the 2nd round.

    I'll take that and raise you Chris Mihm as the starting center.

    CRgator1

  • CRgator1 said...

    I kinda feel you, but thats not evrn the whole story.

    Back then you had KG in his prime. Chris Webber, Duncan, Rasheed, etc.

    There were some pretty good big men that were waaaayyyy better than Odom, at that time.

    Odom has been just ok his entire career and Caron Butler wasn't the Caron Butler we see now.To say they were these great players is laughable.

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  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    Why? Bynum is a dominant enough center?

    Inconsistent. Dwight could put up 30 a game if he wanted

    #winning

    MrCrimson33306

  • Stump888 said...

    It's still a little too early to have this debate, but I'll throw out my two cents. Kobe and Duncan have very different resumes, so which is better kind of depends on what you value most.

    If you judge a player based on the numbers they put up, Kobe is your man. The dude is obsessed with making sure everyone knows he's 'the man' and has imposed his will on the league for years.

    If you care more about style and circumstances, Duncan is better. His numbers are marginally weaker, but he never gave two craps about them to begin with. He has also been one of the best leaders in the game, whereas Kobe has developed a reputation of being a semi-cancer that the Lakers organization has had to tip-toe around. Duncan's team has always been successful, no matter who the Spurs surrounded him with, while Kobe can only succeed when placed next to elite bigmen.

    In the end, Kobe is generally favored by casual fans, who love the points he puts up and ignore his warts. More hardcore fans seem to prefer Duncan, because he was just as successful while not having any major flaws. He is most well-rounded and fundamentally sound superstar the league has ever seen. Duncan > Kobe

    Casual fans lmao?I love how you just tried to do that.I'll never be a casual fan and I still believe Kobe is better.

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  • usctrojanglory said...

    The only fag is you bruh don't confuse us.So what he's having a great game?He is supposedly the greatest basketball player in the world right?You're mad that son is a pussy why?Do you give him bj's and rub his back to?

    No you are a hating faggot who doesn't watch basketball and makes judgements that have nothing to do with reality. Go watch sportscenter and tell me about how the reffing was bad again.

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  • usctrojanglory said...

    Casual fans lmao?I love how you just tried to do that.I'll never be a casual fan and I still believe Kobe is better.

    Yeh truth, you aren't even a fan. You watch SC and talk chit like you know what you are talking about.

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  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    Why? Bynum is a dominant enough center?

    Injury issues, inconsistency and the fact that I just think that the Lakers are infatuated with Dwight and Dwight wants to play with the Lakers. I know that they don't want to get rid of Bynum but I think if they had the chance to get Dwight, they should and will trade Bynum. He's a beast and all but he's no Dwight Howard. I also think they could get a stud PG and some depth by doing it.

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  • RATT said...

    Injury issues, inconsistency and the fact that I just think that the Lakers are infatuated with Dwight and Dwight wants to play with the Lakers. I know that they don't want to get rid of Bynum but I think if they had the chance to get Dwight, they should and will trade Bynum. He's a beast and all but he's no Dwight Howard. I also think they could get a stud PG and some depth by doing it.

    Dwight just had back surgery. I'd be worried about his future. If the Lakers are going to have to trade for Dwight I'd say stick with what they have. Now, if they can get Dwight as a FA and deal Bynum then lets just say, Im gonna be pissed lol

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  • CRgator1 said...

    I kinda feel you, but thats not evrn the whole story.

    Back then you had KG in his prime. Chris Webber, Duncan, Rasheed, etc.

    There were some pretty good big men that were waaaayyyy better than Odom, at that time.

    Stop interjecting facts man.Kobe should have made it the playoffs with a bunch of castoffs.I mean not one allstar on his team.Big Z was and has been a freaking allstar.These dudes are retarded.Larry Hughes was better than any other Laker besides Kobe.Dude just said a combo of Butler and Odom was better than a combo of Big Z and Hughes at that time.Straight retarded logic.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    No you are a hating faggot who doesn't watch basketball and makes judgements that have nothing to do with reality. Go watch sportscenter and tell me about how the reffing was bad again.

    LeBrons a pussy but I'd defend my boo till the end to lmao.

    This post was edited by usctrojanglory on 4/28/2012 at 5:21 PM

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  • this is the roster we had when we missed the playoffs

    18 Sasha Vujacic PG 6-7
    9 Chucky Atkins PG 5-11
    5 Tierre Brown PG
    8 Kobe Bryant SG
    15 Tony Bobbitt * SG
    21 Kareem Rush **
    4 Luke Walton SF
    1 Caron Butler SF
    3 Devean George SF
    20 Jumaine Jones SF
    7 Lamar Odom SF
    43 Brian Cook PF
    14 Stanislav Medvedenko PF/C
    55 Brian Grant PF/C
    31 Chris Mihm C
    12 Vlade Divac

    #winning

    MrCrimson33306

  • usctrojanglory said...

    Learns a pussy but I'd defend my boo till the end to lmao.

    Can you tell me again how LBJ sucks always in the playoffs fag boy?

    Shuts down the league's hottest scorer, dominates offensively.

    Only one guy can do that in the league. And he did it today.

    MVP, MVP, MVP.

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  • Mr.Crimson said...

    this is the roster we had when we missed the playoffs

    18 Sasha Vujacic PG 6-7 9 Chucky Atkins PG 5-11 5 Tierre Brown PG 8 Kobe Bryant SG 15 Tony Bobbitt * SG 21 Kareem Rush ** 4 Luke Walton SF 1 Caron Butler SF 3 Devean George SF 20 Jumaine Jones SF 7 Lamar Odom SF 43 Brian Cook PF 14 Stanislav Medvedenko PF/C 55 Brian Grant PF/C 31 Chris Mihm C 12 Vlade Divac

    6 Shannon Brown G 6-4 205 November 29, 1985 R Michigan State University
    1 Daniel Gibson G 6-2 190 February 27, 1986 R University of Texas at Austin
    90 Drew Gooden F 6-10 230 September 24, 1981 4 University of Kansas
    32 Larry Hughes G 6-5 184 January 23, 1979 8 Saint Louis University
    11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238 June 5, 1975 8
    23 LeBron James F-G 6-8 240 December 30, 1984 3
    19 Damon Jones G 6-3 185 August 25, 1976 8 University of Houston
    27 Dwayne Jones F-C 6-11 250 June 9, 1983 1 Saint Joseph's University
    24 Donyell Marshall F 6-9 218 May 18, 1973 12 University of Connecticut
    14 Ira Newble F 6-7 220 January 20, 1975 6 Miami University
    3 Sasha Pavlovic G-F 6-8 220 November 15, 1983 3
    31 Scot Pollard C 6-11 265 February 12, 1975 9 University of Kansas
    20 Eric Snow G 6-3 190 April 24, 1973 11 Michigan State University
    17 Anderson Varejao F-C 6-10 230 September 28, 1982 2
    4 David Wesley

    That's LBJ's he took to the ship.

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  • Big Z was an all-star that year that is why he averaged 11 points and 7 rebounds. Am I right Trojan?

    Smart guy. SC tell you that one?

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Can you tell me again how LBJ sucks always in the playoffs fag boy?

    Shuts down the league's hottest scorer, dominates offensively.

    Only one guy can do that in the league. And he did it today.

    MVP, MVP, MVP.

    Great for LeBron.You can get off your knees now because he's still a pussy.Great player just way to sensitive imo.You guys seem to share that trait though.

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  • usctrojanglory said...

    Great for LeBron.You can get off your knees now because he's still a pussy.Great player just way to sensitive imo.You guys seem to share that trait though.

    But not a rapist...

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  • I remember it all now. Shaq was traded to Miami (which is the year they won the title) for Caron and Odom. We had 2 rookies in rotation Sasha and Cook. Atkins was the pg no and Mihm was the center. We actually made it to the playoffs the next year with Kwame and Smush.lol

    #winning

    MrCrimson33306

  • mriderblue12 said...

    Big Z was an all-star that year that is why he averaged 11 points and 7 rebounds. Am I right Trojan?

    Smart guy. SC tell you that one?

    Again was Big Z ever a allstar?Was Odom or Butler ever a allstar?Who played in the tougher conference?

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  • Hskr4Life23 said...

    Dwight just had back surgery. I'd be worried about his future. If the Lakers are going to have to trade for Dwight I'd say stick with what they have. Now, if they can get Dwight as a FA and deal Bynum then lets just say, Im gonna be pissed

    I get that the back injury is something to be worried about but he had only missed about an average of a game a season before this. His back had also been hurt all year long and he was playing with the pain so I don't think it's something that's going to nag him for years to come once the surgery and rehab are over.

    I'm not a Lakers fan, actually not even close, so I'm just guessing here. I do know that Dwight wants to be a Laker in his heart of hearts and the Lakers certainly want him as well. If I were a Lakers fan, I would much rather have Dwight than Bynum but that's just me. Your certainly going to have to address the PG issue sooner than later and you dont need both Howard and Bynum. Maybe they could both co-exist and you could address the PG issue by dealing Gasol.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    But not a rapist...

    Kobe being a rapist is not my problem bruh.That dude can damn sure swish some J's though.

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  • usctrojanglory said...

    Again was Big Z ever a allstar?Was Odom or Butler ever a allstar?Who played in the tougher conference?

    Yes. Butler was a two time all-star, same amount as Big Z. Again do you watch SC just?

    Ilgauskas was also an all-star before he had all sorts of foot trouble.

    Watch some basketball and get some facts dumb ass.

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  • Mr.Crimson said...

    this is the roster we had when we missed the playoffs

    18 Sasha Vujacic PG 6-7 9 Chucky Atkins PG 5-11 5 Tierre Brown PG 8 Kobe Bryant SG 15 Tony Bobbitt * SG 21 Kareem Rush ** 4 Luke Walton SF 1 Caron Butler SF 3 Devean George SF 20 Jumaine Jones SF 7 Lamar Odom SF 43 Brian Cook PF 14 Stanislav Medvedenko PF/C 55 Brian Grant PF/C 31 Chris Mihm C 12 Vlade Divac

    Only two decent players on the entire roster besides Kobe yet people wonder why they didn't make the playoffs.AMAZING.............

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Yes. Butler was a two time all-star, same amount as Big Z. Again do you watch SC just?

    Ilgauskas was also an all-star before he had all sorts of foot trouble.

    Watch some basketball and get some facts dumb ass.

    You're seriously stupid.In the years we are talking about,were Odom and Butler allstars?Was Big Z?The answer is hell NO and YES.Butler didn't become and allstar until wayyyyyyyyy after he got traded away from LA douche.

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  • usctrojanglory said...

    Only two decent players on the entire roster besides Kobe yet people wonder why they didn't make the playoffs.AMAZING.............

    and we're talking western conference during that time was good top to bottom.

    #winning

    MrCrimson33306

  • usctrojanglory said...

    You're seriously stupid.In the years we are talking about,were Odom and Butler allstars?Was Big Z?The answer is hell NO and YES.Butler didn't become and allstar until wayyyyyyyyy after he got traded away from LA douche.

    No Big Z wasn't an all-star when LBJ led them to the finals. You were wrong, its okay.

    The Lakers also got wiped three years in a row. Not just didn't make the playoffs.

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